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ChemTrail above Sydney, Australia right now??? see pics...

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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Why isn't this thread on the Firehose??!! I don't remember seeing any chemtrails or eccentric contrails before 2003. A few people I know saw them in the late 90's. According to the contrailers, trails last when conditions are right. I'd have to say that pre 2003 (in my experience) right conditions for contrails were a fluke. After that they are the norm. Something drastically changed. So whether the OP picture is the fluke now norm or chemtrail the new norm is hard to say UNLESS the OP observed the plane turn and come back which is a dead giveaway.




posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by luxordelphi
Why isn't this thread on the Firehose??!!


Because it's more than 12 hours old.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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reply to post by longwinter
 


Yes, check out a cloud seeding company that has totally openly been cloud seeding for decades. A process that has never been secret, and looks nothing at all like what most people call "chemtrails".



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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i was working on a construction site in western sydney when i saw this plane leaving this trail. what got my attention was the trajectory of it....almost 45 degrees with a thick trail of white. have never seen a plane fly like that before...it took me a few minutes before taking a pic on my mobile phone. the plane flew at a much higher altitude then normal commercial flights. it then made a parabolic trajectory at same angle. i also took another pic when we were driving to another site.. i am first time user of ATS and only came across when i googled chem trail over sydney 29 july..will add the 2 photos i took shortly.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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this is the plane going up




this is the plane going down

files.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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and the plane going down

files.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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The chemtrail may be this Air Canada passenger jet that had to dump fuel shortly after take off and then make an emergency landing after smoke filled the galley on takeoff.

So yes technically it was a chemical trail - jet fuel.

www.news.com.au



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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I see that shape all the time. It's just chaotic air currents buffeting various points on the contrail.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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Those planes are not going up or down. They are in level flight. Perfectly horizontal.

It's just the angle you are looking at them from. See these power lens for example. They are also horizontal, but look like they are nearly vertical. It's just perspective.



(The center trail is also a horizontal contrail, from a very extreme angle. The right trail is a space shuttle launch).



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty the Klown
The chemtrail may be this Air Canada passenger jet that had to dump fuel shortly after take off and then make an emergency landing after smoke filled the galley on takeoff.

So yes technically it was a chemical trail - jet fuel.

www.news.com.au


Correct me if I'm wrong but when taking off over Botany Bay it would not be normal practice in an emergency to turn around and look for highly populated areas to dump your fuel on in preference to dumping it over the water.

In any case, I flew into Sydney Yesterday afternoon and saw the dirty massive fuel dump trail hanging over airport. If the photo was taken in Western Sydney its not the fuel dump.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by dskone
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this is the plane going up




this is the plane going down

files.abovetopsecret.com...


They were hammering Western Sydney yesterday arvo and all day today. I have photos of the end result yesterday and it is not pretty. For some reason I can't upload them though.

I watched the same plane come back four times today, starting and finishing his trail in the same location and as soon as he finshed the trail his pace would pick up rapidly and he would loop around to the left and decend in the direction he came from which could only be from Richmond RAAF unless there is some private airstrip I don't know about.

I have one major problem with your photo...Active Hire?? C'mon, does it even start?

I know the Kennards well and Im sure they will give you a lot more love than AH. Are you on the Hansen, Burton, Leighton or TRN site?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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hi emachines2006,
+ thanks for the input...

i agree, i dont remember seeing these sort of TRAILs at all, more than 10 years ago...

+ some days seem like "they" are really pumping it up..

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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hi luxordelphi,
thanks for the reply...

yes it does seem like it is more common now, than 5 - 10 years ago...

and NO i did not actually see the plane come back...
i was busy working that day, and only saw it when it was almost gone across the sky...

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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sorry, forgot to thank U for the FIREHOSE comment....

i thought i was mad or stupid....

it was NEVER on the firehose, as far as i can tell...

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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hi Uncinus,
thanks for reply,

and i do not think it made it on firehose AT ALL,

the threads just before and after were there, but not this thread,,,

any idea why not?

just a glitch?

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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hi longwinter,
thanks for joining in,
+ THANKS for the link...Very interesting...!

for those that missed it, here a couple of excerpts:


Weather Modification, Inc., has a wide range of services
to provide knowledge, data, equipment and capability at any
phase in your project. We can also tailor a program to meet
your specific objectives and manage it from beginning to end.

Our talented scientists, researchers, project managers,
technicians, and pilots have the expertise you need to carry out
an efficient, effective weather program
.


and the Australian link:


Queensland Environmental Protection Agency Objective:
Support for 2008 Feasibility Study for the
Augmentation of Rain & Air Chemistry Monitoring.

Products and Services Provided: Instrumented Aircraft & Crew for Cloud Seeding


from ref link: www.weathermodification.com...


OK i know it says it is just about rain, etc...

but like i said earlier, "TPTB" tell us FLUORIDE in the water is good,
but a lot of us suspect otherwise...

could this "cloud-seeding" be more than just rainmaking...???

thanks again longwinter, * (starred for link)

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Hi Uncinus, and thanks...

but can U be 100% sure this isnt a "cover" for bigger projects???

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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hi dskone,
hope U are well...

and thanks for the "supporting evidence"...

much appreciated...

excellent pic...

note the length of the "tail",
not disappearing within seconds... as they should normally do...

PS, welcome to ATS...

seeya



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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hi Krusty the Klown,
thanks for the reply,

and YES i remember that incident,
BUT does a FUEL DUMP look like whats in the pics...?

i do not know.... but doubt it... any pics?

thanks again for the input...

+ seeya




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