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Originally posted by Pilot
I have a question for those who've noticed changes:
Do you recall when you first noticed something was different? This is important because it ought to rule out a few possibilities.
I could be wrong but it seems like the sun outside my window last fall/winter was further south...I watch it travel across the sky from left to right as the years pass and the seasons change. This is the first time I've paid such close attention, these last 4 years. Fall 2010 was the first time anything seemed amiss, but I brushed it aside because my memory seemed the more fallible than the procession of the equinoxes !
BUT, let's honor our senses and be thorough about all this. Try to remember when it first occurred to you, I remember this spring thinking the sun was too far north, like a lot of folks, but then I remembered back last fall was the first time I had the thought about the sun being "off".
Originally posted by whathasitcome2
I agree. 30 seconds into this post I realized it was Bush's fault.
Originally posted by abeverage
Frankly I blame BUSH and his "No child left behind" for this post...
Yeah this is my first post and I am long long time lurker and I don't mean to be rude but I watch the sun daily I photograph the sun periodically. The last time my kid and I were on a sun dial for the month of June and we made our shadows be the hour hand the time was completely correct.
So my theory is somehow you and your Dad have translated to EARTH 626 where the tilt of the earth is different (allowing the sun to appear different, cause everyone knows it would be the earth not the sun that would cause this). And in some way you are still able to post silly threads on good ole EARTH PRIME (where I live and the sun is normal as it has been for ages). That or you both were hallucinating...
These posts and others like them are why I have decided to no longer lurk. A lack of basic science skills or at the very least scientific reasoning and not opinions or theories based on conjecture, speculation, ignorance or just plain superstition sadden me. No proof, no way period.
edit on 29-7-2011 by abeverage because: miss spelling run on sentence
Originally posted by Misterlondon
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by Misterlondon
It's good yourself and your father notice things in the world.. But common sense tells me that if the sun had changed position, this couldn't be hidden from the public.. It would be big news and wouldn't be broken to the world by a couple of guys in their back garden in Scotland..(no offence to you)
Alot of people still use the sun alot in their daily lives eg farmers.. Someone would have noticed this a long time ago..
And also what do you mean the elite derroying our planet? They may have control over money, media governments etc.. But the sun is one thing they will never control..
Most of the "public" is ignorant and are too busy looking "down" on their mobile phones / ipads / ipods and rarely if ever look "up".
Even when the "public" look "up" do you really think they are going to care or notice the sun or anything has moved position?
You are also forgetting the "silent" majority, people who do notice, but just move on and say nothing, or say it in close circles of say local farmers too etc, they are too busy making living.
You're argument is just empty.edit on 28-7-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)
My argument isn't empty.. It's common sense.. What about the millions of scientists and astronomers.. Mainstream and amateur..
Do you not think someone would have noticed and leaked the biggest story if all time..
These people who are making observations and noticing the sun is moving.. Are maybe just noticing something that has happened for millennia.. The sun does change position in the sky throughout the year.. It's what gives us seasons..
The only sure why to find out if the sun is in a different position, is to find something showing the position of the sun in the sky, exactly one year ago and compare it to where it is today..