BT ordered to block pirate links

BT ordered to block pirate links

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A High Court judge has ruled that BT must block access to a website which provides links to pirated movies.

Newzbin 2 is a members-only site which aggregates a large amount of the illegally copied material found on Usenet discussion forums.

The landmark case is the first time that an ISP has been ordered to block access to such a site.

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For those who don not know....BT is British Telecommunications and they 'Hold' all the exchanges Nationally in the UK and allow other communication companies to buy access to them so as to deliver content on the internet etc etc...

This Legal ruling is a FIRST for the UK. The Judge has said that Pirated filmes and other stuff can now Be legally blocked.....by BT the ISP ...

Although Pirated films are wrong....... (?) Is this the Start of Bigger and More interesting censrship in the UK of the Internet ??

Regards

PDUK

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(visit the link for the full news article)

We're talking about BT here lol, BT cannot even get broadband out to rural areas never mind block links lol

Are you kidding? BT is a bunch of fail.

DNS blocks most likely, or their phorn injection crap.

The majority of Newsbin users are savvy enough to be well aware of how to get around this "block." Another busy body judge that doesn't have a clue.

It is a precedent, for sure. What happens, we will have to wait and see. In the meantime, brush up on your knowledge of proxies and VPNs.

S+F

Yup.. I suspect it is the start of censorship.. As with everything they do, they start with somethingthey have a valid case for.. Such as this.. Then start to slowly censor more things.. Eventually we get desensitised to it as it seems normal.. Bam.. Next thing you know, it is fully censored and commercialised..

reply to post by JennaDarling


JennaDarling........

I live rurally in the Derbyshire countryside, pretty much on my own.... I have had BT broadband for the past four and half years here and sorry to say but it works Brilliantly......!

Downloads and BBC i-player stuff... no problems..

I pay about £18 per month and get good service .... sometimes expectations are to high from people...

Regards

PDUK

Originally posted by JennaDarling

We're talking about BT here lol, BT cannot even get broadband out to rural areas never mind block links lol

Are you kidding? BT is a bunch of fail.

DNS blocks most likely, or their phorn injection crap.

edit on 28-7-2011 by JennaDarling because: (no reason given)

That is because fibre optics haven't been installed yet.. This costs a huge amount of money (more than you imagine) which indecently they are also currently working on with rural broadband installation schemes..

They still run all the phone lines and people in rural areas can still receive the Internet.. Just not broadband..

reply to post by Misterlondon


Mr London

I posted this because it started me wondering about ATS............. with the 'nutter' from America who was a member and then all the stuff in Norway........will Governments start to look at sites like this..??

PDUK

Originally posted by Mudja
It is a precedent, for sure. What happens, we will have to wait and see. In the meantime, brush up on your knowledge of proxies and VPNs.

S+F

edit on 28-7-2011 by Mudja because: Spelling fail

Maybe someone on ATS could run a thread explaining all this VPN and proxie stuff....

I'd sure read it !!

PDUK

Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
reply to post by JennaDarling

 

JennaDarling........

I live rurally in the Derbyshire countryside, pretty much on my own.... I have had BT broadband for the past four and half years here and sorry to say but it works Brilliantly......!

Downloads and BBC i-player stuff... no problems..

I pay about £18 per month and get good service .... sometimes expectations are to high from people...

Regards

PDUK

You're lucky or probably live pretty near an upgraded exchange.

When I was roaming there for a while even their 3G service is limited to cities and if you go anywhere near a mountain, even one that has a APN lol, it is still 2.5G at best.

Next onto your quota limits, ridiculous, 1 to 3gb a month? LOL ludicrious for mobile.

I can go up to the artic circle in other countries or up a mountain in other countries in europe and get 3g lol

Yes i agree with other poster this is stupid as if you want you can just leave the country (Ip speaking) and then go to the site...

Prime example is my cousin in ABU Dhabi cannot access porn, gambling etc... except he VPN's out to aberdeen and then can... i only know this as i was going to give him access to my VPN but the crafty bugger was one step ahead of me.

Point being the only people who can censor IT are people who understand IT, and from my experience dealing with relativley high Members of staff at BT for my work, we have nothing to worry about in the next twelve months.

Aldough i am not a supporter of pirated movies, this won't do a thing.
The 'internet' is way smarter then one judge.
There always more ways to get the same result. Also i hate bittorrent and i cantel see why people use it.
I'm using Usenet one of the oldest ways of the internet.

reply to post by PurpleDog UK


No worries. Wait until Anonymous catches wind of this. But they need you too. Anyone that cares about this needs to spread it. Post it on Facebook (you can skip an update on Dustin Beedlers, I promise), Craigslist, comment sections on news sites, other forums, anywhere you care to. You'll have Anonymous' sword but they need your arm.

Proxy servers and mirrors will always beat ISPs. ISPs are clueless and cannot stop anything...The internet cannot be controlled and never will be.

Use OpenVpn it is free and will get around their blocks.

www.freeopenvpn.com...

They also have PPTP versions of tunneling VPN's

I just prefer to use OpenVPN over but sometimes you need to use PPTP.

Also add Google DNS servers to your DNS list,.. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 aswell as your ISP's

You can also add other DNS servers you wish to the list bound to your network stack.

The added advantage of using a tunnel / VPN is that it is SSL encrypted point to point.

Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
reply to post by Misterlondon

 

Mr London

I posted this because it started me wondering about ATS............. with the 'nutter' from America who was a member and then all the stuff in Norway........will Governments start to look at sites like this..??

PDUK

I'm sure governments are looking at sites like this. Im pretty sure this board will be being monitored, especially in the wake of the Norway terrorist. his views are obviously shared by a few people on this site.

I would say the future problem that may arise with ATS though, is members linking to any copyrighted material.

Right now, techies across the BT broadband network are sweating buckets in anticipation of the response this will generate; one idiot judge could have just caused them a whole world of problems.

Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
reply to post by Misterlondon

 

Mr London

I posted this because it started me wondering about ATS............. with the 'nutter' from America who was a member and then all the stuff in Norway........will Governments start to look at sites like this..??

PDUK

Yeah I think ats would be in danger in an all out censorship scenario.. Because it promotes freedom of speech (to a certain extent) and the topics covered here can be a threat to the tptb..

I'm sure this site is monitored by certain uk agencies already and also the 3 letter ones in America..

If another nutter comes from here and does something horrific.. They will have all the ammo they need to block this site..

reply to post by woodwardjnr


The internet is based on linking to copyright material of some form or another (almost every page of every site has copyright logos on it); the only difference is that companies can afford to push things like this, buying laws and legislation whereas the majority of copyright holders (that'd be the public) just don't have the resources, time or interest to do so - hence things like the GNU. Ultimately we just want to be credited for our work if it's used elsewhere; the companies however just want our credits.