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The Secrets of the Indigo Children and what 2012 REALLY means for humans

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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
There are lots of dates to choose from. Why pick the Mayan date?

Many believe that there will be a shift in consciousness at the end of this date. Sammy believes (I think) we are going to exit out of a dark age and into another golden age. I hope he is right.



Is there a numerological reason?

Yes, there are many numerical connections.


Is there a connection claimed between the Mayans and something?

Yes (I think). Many people believe the Mayans were predicting a shift in human consciousness. I believe Ian Lungold was one of them.Interestingly, Lungold (if I remember right) predicted that the last four years preceding this date would be a 'Galactic period', where we would probably have ET contact.


Is this just a piling on of more unrelated material to 2012?

Yes.




posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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OMG you are a scream!

I've seen Lungold's claims and his henchman Calleman. The odd thing about their claims is that none of it is based on the Mayans. They have created a mix of personal notions with Mayans with Aztecs and who knows what else.

The thought that there is going to be a consciousness shift seems to be some New Age idea that is without evidence. Have there been other such events? So if we enter a golden age again I presume there was a golden age before. Any idea when this golden age existed?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
So if we enter a golden age again I presume there was a golden age before. Any idea when this golden age existed?

(goes over briefly a lifetime study of human history)

No.


This is the 44th page though, so I will acquiese. Sammy is about to unleash I think, and I am genuinely curious at this point.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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from indigos, opening chakras, and Dec 21 2012, and how its all supposed to tie together.

Great! I somehow missed the 2012 connection. Can you tell me why this is connected to 2012?

As far as the current (p)age is concerned it seems to be that its an anything goes guess. When situations like this occur it certainly suggests that the "age of (whatever)" is not real. Rather it seems that the claim of an age is made up.


Snakes and ladders

You just stepped on a snake


btw you have tried to dim my light this whole thread? Why?


I LOVE YOU ALL x
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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Great! I somehow missed the 2012 connection. Can you tell me why this is connected to 2012?
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I'm not sure if he made the connection himself, but the "spiritual science" video he posted did... The video corresponds to a lot of the material I have personally learned.

But regardless, I'll try to give you some of the topics that will maybe tie some of it together... I'll let you do the digging.

It is well known that the Earth has a wobble... this is called the Precesion of the Equinox. This takes about 26,000 years to complete. What isn't as well known is why... The supposed meaning behind this, as I have read is that this is our solor systems trip around the galactic center. It would seem to me that this should take a lot longer, but... that's the explination we have so far. At certain points throughout this journey, the solor system goes in and out of a cosmic dust called the "oort cloud" (it has other names also). During these alignments, there is a supposed time of "enlightenment"... maybe a "time of no time"... I'm not really sure as I can't remember the last time we were in one of these alignments (the beauty of "veil of forgetfullness").

There are also possibly points in the precession where we align with the "galactic center" and where souls that have learned certain lessons (older souls?) get to advance or "move up". These are refered to as the "harvests" at points in the Bible... especially in Revelations.

During this Precession, the sun goes through different astrological configurations where certain "soul lessons" are learned. The Age of Pisces is representative of two fish. This could mean (not sure) that there is a duality lesson learned for that age.. Good vs Evil, Left Brain vs Right Brain, Light vs Dark, Republican vs Democrat, etc, etc, etc... and each age is represented by a different "ruler" or "god". It's all part of the Law of Confusion or Free Will...

The Mayans believed they had a visitor (as did many of these ancient civilizations). The Mayan visitor went by the name of Queztocoatl... I'm guessing this may have been Hermes/Mercury and he is called by different names in these different civilizations... Anyways, he taught them this knowledge and gave them the date of December 21st, 2012. This doesn't mean the "end of the world" but the end of the 26,000 year precession as the Mayan calender is cyclical. The whole things starts over and we're supposed to go into a "golden age" as we are coming out of the Dark age.

That does not mean that there won't be death and destruction... as if the Earth is birthing a 4 or 5D version of herself, there may be flooding, fire, etc, etc... nobody really knows. But since thoughts are creative power, we may manifest whatever we believe which is why there may be many Indigos incarnating... to keep the vibes positive for the best possible transition.

Now, that should be enough of a start for you to go Youtube or Google this stuff yourself. Enjoy.


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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Well you could explain this connection to 2012, but here you chose not to. Why?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Well you could explain this connection to 2012, but here you chose not to. Why?


BECAUSE ITS A LESSON


peace



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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It is well known that the Earth has a wobble... this is called the Precesion of the Equinox. This takes about 26,000 years to complete. What isn't as well known is why... The supposed meaning behind this, as I have read is that this is our solor systems trip around the galactic center. It would seem to me that this should take a lot longer, but... that's the explination we have so far. At certain points throughout this journey, the solor system goes in and out of a cosmic dust called the "oort cloud" (it has other names also). During these alignments, there is a supposed time of "enlightenment"... maybe a "time of no time"... I'm not really sure as I can't remember the last time we were in one of these alignments (the beauty of "veil of forgetfullness").

The precession of the equinoxes is due to a wobble. It is not related to the Sun's rotation about the galaxy. The Oort cloud is a part of the solar system. We do not go in and out of it.

There is the yearly alignment with the galactic center. It is like all alignments: rough and nothing happens.


The Mayan visitor went by the name of Queztocoatl

Actually Quetzalcoatl was an Aztec deity, not Mayan. The long count calendar was used by the Mayans, not the Aztecs. So Q would not have given the Aztecs the date which was from a Mayan Calendar. There is something wrong here. It sounds like a mix up with Mesoamerican civilizations.


but the end of the 26,000 year precession as the Mayan calender is cyclical.

The long count is not a cyclical calendar. It is an unending linear calendar such as ours. The long count is also not related to the precession. It appears that the Mayans did not known about the precession.


That does not mean that there won't be death and destruction... as if the Earth is birthing a 4 or 5D version of herself, there may be flooding, fire, etc, etc... nobody really knows./quote]
This too is Aztec. The Mayans only had a single creation, no restarts so to speak.

If you are getting this so-called info from youtube or wherever then you need to find better sources.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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So you admit that there is no connection to 2012. Why not move this thread to the gray zone?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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you already did move it.

All by yourself



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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So what is the connection to 2012?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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So what is the connection to 2012?


ok since you need some help. Here are all the answers

answers



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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So you are simply saying that there is no connection to 2012. Was that hard to admit?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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So you are simply saying that there is no connection to 2012. Was that hard to admit?


Very


Please stop clogging up the 4:44

your needed at 1:11



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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It was rather obvious from the get go that there was nothing here that connected any of the fluff claimed here to 2012.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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It is not unusual for New Agers to get the Aztecs and the Mayans mixed up. It is one of the fortes of Calleman who has been labeled the prophet of nonsense by some Mayans archaeologists.

The corruption of the civilizations runs the gamut from the calendar to the gods to the conquest by the Europeans.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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The precession of the equinoxes is due to a wobble. It is not related to the Sun's rotation about the galaxy. The Oort cloud is a part of the solar system. We do not go in and out of it.


Are you sure of that... ? The wobble is caused by something obviously... we can only speculate, but logically, the best reason would be some kind of cycle or rotation. Otherwise the poles would stand still. If the moon goes around the Earth, and the Earth goes around the Sun, what does the Sun go around...?! It's all cycles within cycles... Does it not make sense that the stars rotate around the Galactic center, black hole, or whatever is there...? Any logical mind would say Yes. That's how you get the shape of the galaxy.




Actually Quetzalcoatl was an Aztec deity, not Mayan. The long count calendar was used by the Mayans, not the Aztecs. So Q would not have given the Aztecs the date which was from a Mayan Calendar. There is something wrong here. It sounds like a mix up with Mesoamerican civilizations.


Semantics, Smantics... I've been studying all mythologies recently, and since they pretty much all line up most of the "deities" start becoming one and the same. Hermes, Mercury, Queztocoatl... whatever... Your rebuttle doesn't make my arguement wrong...



The long count is not a cyclical calendar. It is an unending linear calendar such as ours. The long count is also not related to the precession. It appears that the Mayans did not known about the precession.


No... I've been reading a blog of a mayan descendant and even she states that at 13.0.0.0 their calender STARTS OVER!!! Which is maybe why I'm getting to two confused... A lot of thier respective mythologies also line up which is why they are starting to get jumbled together for me...


This too is Aztec. The Mayans only had a single creation, no restarts so to speak.

Again, Semantics... so replace wherever I said Mayan with Aztec and my arguement still has substance...


If you are getting this so-called info from youtube or wherever then you need to find better sources.


Christian Gnosis, Gnosis, Sumerian tablets, astrology, just about every religion, just about every mythology, hermetics, Keys of Solomon, past life regression, and other random esoteric texts... These have given me an idea of how things "may" work... the more I learn, the less I realize I know.

Not an expert in any area and I obviously get them mixed up a little, but outside of pointing out I reversed Aztec and Mayan, you can't prove we're not entering the oort cloud anymore than I can proove we are... To be honest, I don't know if we are, but it's in just about every prophecy we have and there is good evidence something has and will happen as ancient civilizations obviously at times have been more advanced than us.

I don't know what will happen any more than you... maybe nothing... I'm not on board and I'm not a skeptic. I DO know that a change in paradigm is coming at the very least.


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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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The notion that Quetzalcoatl is Satan is another New Age myth that has appeared. It seems that the idea comes from Marantha who mixes up the feathered Q with the notion that Q had wings. Marantha compares the Mayan deity Q with the 2012 Chinese calendar which is the year of the dragon. Marantha makes some claims about the appearance of Satan and Q being the same which is not true. It is at best a few slight similarities. Then Marantha goes on to claim that Q is the same as a number of deities from other parts of the world as well such as some Eguyptian gods and some Greek and Roman gods.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
The notion that Quetzalcoatl is Satan is another New Age myth that has appeared. It seems that the idea comes from Marantha who mixes up the feathered Q with the notion that Q had wings. Marantha compares the Mayan deity Q with the 2012 Chinese calendar which is the year of the dragon. Marantha makes some claims about the appearance of Satan and Q being the same which is not true. It is at best a few slight similarities. Then Marantha goes on to claim that Q is the same as a number of deities from other parts of the world as well such as some Eguyptian gods and some Greek and Roman gods.


I didn't say anything about Satan...



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