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The Secrets of the Indigo Children and what 2012 REALLY means for humans

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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no one has to prove anything to you , what makes you think we do? ,that's your problem if you can't believe something.I've had many experiences that science can not explain.It's all about EXPERIENCES.




posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Cecilofs

Originally posted by SamuelisHeaven and hell are inside you. They are merely two different ways of descibing your dream world. The message that we haven't grasped yet is that you create your heaven or hell simply with the way that you choose to think!


QFT! The way I see it, we've created Hell on earth and now its time to create Heaven instead.

I am an INFP too so I can relate to a lot of what you've said...not pouring milk in the kettle though
I have also been told that I am an indigo and the idea resonates with me but I don't fully buy into it, partially because it is a bit of an ëgo trap" so to speak. If the Indigos are real, I don't think they are only INFP and certainly not blonde-haired/blue-eyed like a lot of people believe.

I'm trying to maintain my positivity but its hard being submerged in a world full of negativity. I also can't see any way atm to be completely self-sufficient and not tied into the system through debt. I just don't think its possible atm, which shows how much "TPTB" have planned this all out.

Anyway, I know it'll all turn out fine. I just hope that I can find my place in this world before too long - its been eluding me for too long now


I don't think I got the Lady Gaga thing, unless you are alluding to either her being representative of the feminine energy

or a pawn for TPTB.

I do agree about the feminine energy though. The world has been out of balance for a while and it is slowly rebalancing. This happens on all levels simultaneously because Äs above, so below". I think its a good thing but it is annoying when the pendulum swings back the other way and males become discriminated against - this is by no means the norm but there are examples of it around the place. Examples being custody rights of children after a divorce, or any feminine hygiene commercial. Women tend to fob it off because Ïts about time you got some of your own medicine". But as you said, if you fight fire with fire you just get more fire. Its time to forgive and move on.

My life's journey over the last decade or so has been to rebalance these energies within myself. I was trying to conform to the masculine stereotype and went so far as suppressing and torturing my feminine side, but slowly I have learned to be more accepting of those energies as a part of myself. I have been amazed at things that I know intuitively for example, even though modern science says its impossible, or just a coincidence. I'm not the most masculine male but not incredibly feminine either - I am just more open to my intuitive and emotional side now. I think this is an important journey for all people of all genders - lest we all just conform to stereotypes.

Still, I don't have any special powers yet, but I am eagerly awaiting the day they begin to manifest

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Thank you so much for your post. You were one of the very first people to fully grasp the message I was trying to convey.

This is no supprise actually, I knew that the first person to "get it" would naturally be an INFP.

But NOT because I think INFP's are INDIGO'S!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont think this, if I did it would be an incredibly delusional way to think.


There is a spectrum, if your on the feminin half - YOU ARE AN INDIGO.

weather you follow your mission is completely up to you.

Because weather you try or not - YOU ARE ALREADY CHANGING THE WORLD just by being here


Yes I was referring to gaga as a symbol for femin energy, very influencial in these times. I hope she comes from a good place.


I would have used bieber as my example but no one has leaked anything of importance using his name


1000 stars for you

Peace




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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 04:20 AM
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I will try to make this simple for you as you seem to have some type of reality impediment.

We all exist together as individual energys manifested through the intended and focused application of emotion,we exist in a cumulative reality ,a reality that we cannot opt out of even by choice.

We manifest our thoughts or our focused emotions into interactions with the pysical world.

There are only two things for us to consider ,one the physical world we live in and two our interaction in the cumulative reality we all share.

Your perception of science is simply a bridge or an explanation of how this manifestation happens.

We cannot help but manifest our emotional intent into physical interactions with the physical world,even if you choose to become a hermit and forsake the rest of humanity ,you will continue to be a part of our cumulative reality,because every time you step on a leaf,or cut down a tree,or simply breath you are manifesting your intent into the physical realm.


There is nothing in science that doesnt aleady exist in nature itself,we are not able to imagine anything that is physical,we can imagine god as an idea but we cannot imagine or create anything that doesnt already exist in nature,this is why it is called manifestation.

We copy nature as an expression of our focused emotional intent and as a means of legitimising if you will our existance in concert with the physical world.

you may ask for proof all you want but you dont even have a definition of what proof might be or look like because you are bound by convention and mathematics and manmade expressions of natural reality.

Wether we are awake or asleep we are still able to manifest our emotional intent into interactions with the physical world.

Science cannot even define a dream.

in fact are you sure we dont stay awake only as long as we need to to sleep as opposed to sleeping as long as we need to stay awake??

You like to refer to science but you are far from scientific minded,I spoke with and interacted with humans of races you havent met yet,but you are so very small in aptitude insofar as accepting that there is a greater natural precisness and perfection within nature than can even be approached by conventional science,that you cannot accept that these are simply people like you and I,sorry for your luck,no super complicated scientific explanation or proof and no little green men as far as I saw.

We were created using science as it is supposed to be used,as a tool,a simple tool,there is no cachet to being a scientist in an educated world,information regurgitation at its finest,science is only slap-happy when there are no answers,but nature provides us with all the answers we need so it seems that science much like religon is in deep trouble in the near future.

You may just find yourself at the uncomfortable end of a reality gradient that you may not like,science has never and will never create anything new,simply copy to the best of the scientists abilitys a "picture"or an interpretation of a natural process,it is religous lunacy that feeds science with this predetermined idea that they can create things that are new and this is because the church is the entity that popularised science in the first place,when they felt they couldnt find the answers to their questions from within themselves they sought the answers from outside of themselves,and science has continued to seek what they at the time consider to be fair representations of these answers according to the learned ability of the time.

It still doesnt change the fact that your claims for scientific evidence are hollow and dependant on the current political view of science itself as a recognised entity.

Science may come and science may go but humanity will always remain for without us science itself would never exist as an expression of our wonderment ,because that is exactly what it is ,an expression of our wonderment and it can never be anything more than that by its very nature.

So listen peabrain stop picking on my spelling and grammer and evaluating my education,knowledge or lack thereof,you were obviously undersocialised as a child and it is hard to listen to someone express their frustration through childish remarks,its like pointing out the obvious ,it makes you the oddball,get it ,we all notice each others strengths and weaknesses but we decline to comment on them unless we are feeling defensive,in your case like a relatively small child,when you feel your comfort zone being threatened you begin to overstate the obvious,the obvious that makes us all human,that puts us all on the same team.

And as much as you claim an affiliation to some sort of scientific reasoning in the process of your though formation,it is painfully obvious you have no scientific background,and your inability to recognise your position in a situational dynamic here on this site points towards someone who is a little held back to say the least.

These forums are not courts of law where we are all held up to your scrutinous scientific standards of evidence and proof,this is where we all can decide amongst ourselves how important or unimportant your science even is to our reality,careful as you may find that fewer people than you realise truly consider science to be more than smoke and mirrors.

In fact the more educated [peabrain I learned more than you know right now before I was ten years old--this is what learning to visualise and read and absorb enormous amount of information can do for you]you become the less you consider science and religon in terms of being critical to humanities future,more detrimental I might dare say.

A man who simply sits in the library or surfs the internet in a committed functional way will become an educated,a man who stops learning at college age and then becomes an automaton to science or industry or social entities,will become a well trained and potentially well paid man,but very far from an educated man,you my little friend use science as your shield of shining steel to deflect realities that make you uncomfortable,you even use it as a basis to evaluate other peoples levels of education or learnedness,funny how the seemingly least educated feel the need to relate through expressing their affinity in unanswerable questions simply designed to demonstrate comradeship.

Education is the path to empathy and this is the path to a humanitarian future for us all,not science,science is a religous inspired sham,simply the brothers PETE AND REPETE,get it ,you cannot create ,only repeat different interpretations of the same function,science is a sham as is any request for scientific evidence .

A single human beings word is more important than all the science ever concieved,after all who cares why the sky fell if there is no one to tell you to look up or get out of the way.




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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 05:05 AM
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Your ideas about manifesting and intent are interesting but I think they are a tad bit over complicated and somewhat muddled. For example you said breathing would be focusing intent. I disagree. Breathing is a reflex there is almost no focused intent on inhaling and exhaling. I also fail to see how that would affect the collective reality. As for science there are things created by science that do not naturally occur in nature the easiest example of this would be synthetics. You say people cannot imagine or create anything that is not already physical. I disagree. People imagine things all the time that then become physical thats how most inventions occur.

You seem to have a dislike for science because you feel like nature is all there is and should be and that science is just regurgitated information. I disagree science always challenges itself and is always challenged and changes. That is what makes it great it is not written in stone and our brightest minds always find a flaw and fix it to give us a better understanding of reality. Its very different from religion which by default can never really be challenged and change from that challenge to reach a deeper level of understanding. As a whole anyway.

Contrary to your belief science has been beneficial to humanity. Or would you have us stuck in a tribal living situation with no technology where this discourse could never occur and you probably would have never heard the word indigo? I thought so.

You claim to have done research on your own which I applaud but question. Did you challenge yourself or just read things to further reinforce an idea you already held?




 
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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So what you are saying only that my experience is not your experience. I understand that now.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:36 AM
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Actually - - there have been controlled studies that show certain people have a higher rate of paranormal abilities.

Point this out. I'd like to see these studies.


You can never find those real clinical studies online - - - I guess they are just not as much fun as slamming people.

That I do not believe. The studies exist or they don't.

So where are these controlled studies you suggested exist?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:36 AM
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scientists have been noticing a difference in the decay rates in nuclear particles, which had been consistently reliable in previous years.

What does this mean? It isn’t typical to see such a drastic change in these decay rates. Scientists are seeing a change of 1/10th of 1% in these particles, which was previously unheard of and is unexplainable at this moment. When a particle speeds up, it means it’s radiating more energy. This includes the energy and particles within our own bodies. Studies on DNA have indicated that even very weak changes in the energy field can cause profound changes in our DNA.

Our Sun will reach a solar maximum in 2013. In the meanwhile, it is emitting high energy photons that can literally affect our consciousness, as evidenced by the global awakening that’s going on right now. It’s certainly not a coincidence that these energies are bringing in a wave of spiritual consciousness that demands truth and desires the best for humanity.


All of the planets in our galaxy are undergoing dramatic climate changes. For example, there is a newly discovered ice cap on Mars, chemical changes on Jupiter, new weather patterns on Venus, a vortex on the south pole of Saturn, etc…

Scientific evidence has concluded that since 2006, we have entered into a new energy field which can literally change our DNA. This may explain why there are so many chemtrails in our sky, as to deflect these incoming energies. As more and more of these new energies enter our solar system and our atmosphere, we will continue to see changes within our DNA.


just a few bits and pieces to back up this ascension.


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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If someone does have an ability - - it will be ONE. There's a list of different abilities. You only get impressions - - then you have to interpret them.

No properly controlled studies have seen ANY of these so-called abilities work. Not a single one.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:41 AM
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I suggest you read the posts and see that this person is not able to handle even basic elementary writing despite the claims of super-learning.

You need to look at the evidence instead of mentioning the latest fad in improving retention.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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I've had many experiences that science can not explain.It's all about EXPERIENCES.

It's not what science can explain, rather it's what you don't want explained.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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no, science can't explain it ,it will try to but it will just make something up like it's my immagination or something.
or i'm deluded or im on drugs.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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science can not explain everything you know ,it's not the be all and end all of every single thing.how can science explain something it doesn't even think exists? such as astral travel? it attempts to make things up like it's the brain imagining it because they can't explain it.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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i KNOW for certain that we have an astral body that is attached to our physical body on a chord and we can travel freely from our physical body.Do i have proof? no ,do i KNOW it's true? yes because i have experienced astral traveling.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:59 AM
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meh. perhaps. There are people saying there are changes occcuring on very minute scales, can it affect dna? Maybe, dont believe there is any evidence of that yet, but i will give you a maybe.
BUT, tht does not necessarily lend any credibility to the "indigo child" claims. Just because the ared changes on a planet wide scale does not mean that we all need to become vean and purge and cleanse and meditate. I am willing to bet that my dna will change as much as anyone elses, regardless of my diet. My mind is as open to any changes as people that are running around claiming to have powers that cannot be proven.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:01 AM
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do you science guys experience having a poo and ring up a trained scientist come over and examine your poo to tell you if it's real or not? because that's the exact same thing you are trying to say when people say they have had experiences such as astral travel.I know i have an astral body just like we know we have poos.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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■Do you have the attention span of a moth?
■Do you border on manic depression?
■Do you have the attention span of a dead wombat?
■Are you gay?
■Are you so much of a coward that you've run from every fight in your life?
■Are you like everyone else on earth where you've guessed something to be right before it happens
or have experiened deja vu?
■Are you a candidate for serious meds because demons have hassled you since early childhood and you've fallen for every trick they've played on you?
■Do you think you're special and/or highly intelligent even though everyone else knows you're a half-wit who wants to be special?
■Have you had a dream like everyone else on earth that seemed more real than your average dreams?

If so then you could be ready to fall for yet another one of these new age flower power cults coming to a town near you.

That's honestly all I got out of the OP.

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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I find any of this description of yours simply to be pseudoscience.

1. We are not "energies"
2. We are not manifested by emotions
3. We do not exist in a "cumulative" reality

There are many glaring mistakes such as
1. "we are not able to imagine anything that is physical"
2. "There is nothing in science that doesnt aleady exist in nature itself"
3. "We copy nature as an expression of our focused emotional intent"
4. "Science cannot even define a dream. "

You posit false statements such as

you may ask for proof all you want but you dont even have a definition of what proof might be or look like because you are bound by convention and mathematics and manmade expressions of natural reality. /quote]

The main problem might be that you have no idea what science does. You make claims of some super fast learning, yet your posts are clumsy at best, and full of misspellings.


You like to refer to science but you are far from scientific minded

Here you are telling us all some false tale about an alien abduction. You claim some fast learning and yet you write like a pre-teen.

Of allof the poorly written paragraphs in your post this takes the cake for beign bad.

You may just find yourself at the uncomfortable end of a reality gradient that you may not like,science has never and will never create anything new,simply copy to the best of the scientists abilitys a "picture"or an interpretation of a natural process,it is religous lunacy that feeds science with this predetermined idea that they can create things that are new and this is because the church is the entity that popularised science in the first place,when they felt they couldnt find the answers to their questions from within themselves they sought the answers from outside of themselves,and science has continued to seek what they at the time consider to be fair representations of these answers according to the learned ability of the time.

It's a run on sentence with no direction. You don't appear to know the difference between science and engineering. You have no idea what scientists do. You have no idea what is new or not.


It still doesnt change the fact that your claims for scientific evidence are hollow and dependant on the current political view of science itself as a recognised entity. /quote]
That's not true. That's a false statement occasionally made by charlatans.


So listen peabrain stop picking on my spelling and grammer and evaluating my education,knowledge or lack thereof,

You are the one claiming to be so educated. I see no one else in this thread making such a claim. You are the one that made a claim which is so obvious a falsehood.


we all notice each others strengths and weaknesses but we decline to comment on them unless we are feeling defensive

You are the one that made the claim. You made a claim about some special education. No one else has made such a claim. But you obviously are not capable of writing in a manner consistent with your claims.


And as much as you claim an affiliation to some sort of scientific reasoning in the process of your though formation,it is painfully obvious you have no scientific background

I have no made such a claim. Give me an example. Tell us all why you claim this? I am calling your bluff on this one.


peabrain I learned more than you know right now before I was ten years old

Here you are again claiming some special education yet your posts tell otherwise. Your flawed writing tells us all that you are not as you claim.


A man who simply sits in the library or surfs the internet in a committed functional way will become an educated

Not necessarily true. It might happen. It might not. There are several important missing elements here.


a man who stops learning at college age and then becomes an automaton to science or industry or social entities,will become a well trained and potentially well paid man,but very far from an educated man

This is in conflict with the first part of your sentence, or can't you see that?


you my little friend use science as your shield of shining steel to deflect realities that make you uncomfortable,you even use it as a basis to evaluate other peoples levels of education or learnedness

As this poorly constructed run on sentence progresses we see once again that you do not understand what science does.

Science is a method. Science is not a "shield to deflect realities". Science is not a means of interaction.

There are scientific methods of evaluating people to understand their situation from health to education to sensory capabilities to intelligence to a range of other issues. I certainly don't need to use science to see that you are not what you claim to be.


science is a religous inspired sham

Thanks for showing us yet again that you have no idea what science is or does.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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amazing


Thank you for your time



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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I suggest you read the posts and see that this person is not able to handle even basic elementary writing despite the claims of super-learning.

You need to look at the evidence instead of mentioning the latest fad in improving retention.



That "latest fad" is about 40 years old.
And what the OP is referring to has nothing to do with fact, factual, fractals, grammar or spelling.

It is another subject altogether.
In topics of an ethereal nature, no offense but I think the OP is way ahead of you.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by Samuelis
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amazing


Thank you for your time


You are welcome.
It hasn't been easy.







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