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Fukushima: "The monitoring is stopped! RSOE EDIS" Huh? Why?

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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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I have been using RSOE to keep a check on the Fukushima since the crisis began. This is the latest (and last it seems) update on the Nuclear disaster:


The company in charge of the embattled Fukushima nuclear plant has declared that it is on track to end the crisis, the crippled reactors are stable and cool and radiation levels at the facility are falling. Officials at Tokyo Electric Power Co said that emergency crews operating at the plant, which was devastated by Japan's March 11 earthquake and tsunami, have connected the critical water decontamination and recycling systems and that cold shutdown of the plant should be achieved on schedule by January. "Contaminated water had accumulated in the reactor buildings and turbine buildings, but we now have a system in place that purifies the water so we can push it back into the reactors to cool them," said Yoshikazu Nagai, a spokesman for the company. "The system is working well and the temperature at the bottom of the reactor chambers is between 110C (230F) and 150C (302F)," he said. The aim is to bring the temperature of water in the reactor below 212F (100C), which halts the release of radioactive steam.

Monitors at the plant indicate that radioactive emissions – which contaminate groundwater, seawater and the air – are gradually falling, while work has begun on the construction of a huge shroud over the No. 1 reactor building that is designed to further reduce radioactive releases. Conditions for the emergency teams at the plant have also been improved, with the construction of a dormitory and improved cooking facilities, Tepco said. The company recognises that the clean-up process at the plant and over hundreds of square miles of now-abandoned neighbouring farmland, mountains and towns will take many years. The long-term goal is to start removing the spent nuclear fuel from the reactors three years after achieving cold shutdown. The government has indicated that tens of thousands of people evacuated from the 18-mile exclusion zone around the plant may be able to return to their homes within the next few months if radiation levels continue to fall.

[The monitoring is stopped! RSOE EDIS


hisz.rsoe.hu...

Although this situation is looking better it is still an on-going disaster, reactor number 1 is still exposed and leaking radiation. There are still thousands of litres of radioactve water within the plant and lets not mention the contaminated life support systems (food, water, etc). Yet it seems that RSOE have discontinued their reports.

People say "no news is good news" but with disasters on a scale such as this, then it is not the case.

Notice how it says:


[The monitoring is stopped! RSOE EDIS


Not "the monitoring has stopped" or "we are no longer updating on this situation". They say "Is stopped!", like someone has made them.

Japan Passes Law To Cleanse Internet Of "Bad" Fukushima Radiation News

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So, what are you thoughts?

ALS

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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Are you disappointed it is no longer at disaster level?

Good news all the same.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by ALOSTSOUL
 


Are you disappointed it is no longer at disaster level?

Good news all the same.


Of coarse not.

But the situation, I believe, still warrents updates. To me it seems they have been told not to report on this anymore.

ALS

Also I wouldn't say this disaster is over, in fact its far from it:

enenews.com... rted

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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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I would not be placing too much significance on the IS

They are Hungarian. English is not their first language.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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reply to post by PuterMan
 


I have never noticed any "language errors" before.

ALS



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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There also this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ALS



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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I think it is okay to stop to watch for Airborne Radiation in Europe at this moment,
but instead of turn our awareness off we should focus on our Food, this need
a permanent Observation and Testing!



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Human0815
I think it is okay to stop to watch for Airborne Radiation in Europe at this moment,
but instead of turn our awareness off we should focus on our Food, this need
a permanent Observation and Testing!


Why? Why STOP watching radiation in the air? Why EVER stop watching for it? It really costs that much to watch a few monitoring stations? That yearly budget probably costs about the same as like, 5 seconds of the Iraq occupation.


Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL

The company in charge of the embattled Fukushima nuclear plant has declared that it is on track to end the crisis, the crippled reactors are stable and cool and radiation levels at the facility are falling.
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"The system is working well and the temperature at the bottom of the reactor chambers is between 110C (230F) and 150C (302F)," he said. The aim is to bring the temperature of water in the reactor below 212F (100C), which halts the release of radioactive steam.


A "stable" giant blob of radioactive corium sitting at the bottom of a ruined plant, dowsed in millions? of tons of radioactive water. And now 150C is "cool." Fantastic job, Japan.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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IMHO it is not a coincidence to see this kind of statement surfacing now - the online pleas from Fukushima's parents getting more and more attention, followed by a failed attempt by Japanese officials to placate them in community meeting(s), and then TPTB wanting to scrub the Internet of their concerns and monitoring.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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Why worry about feeding irrational fears from paranoid people. A horrible thing happened but even the worst disasters have a point where they end and the rebuilding begins.

RSOE is about ongoing disasters and why should they alter their purpose to monitor recoveries; I'm not seeing it.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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Yeah, we definitely should trust TEPCO, since they've been so honest and forthright all the way along.

Here is from the Japan Times Online, July 20:



The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co. are boasting success in achieving the first stage in the road map to stabilize the reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, but experts said big challenges remain as the utility moves to the second phase, the goal of which is to achieve a cold shutdown in three to six months. In the newly updated plan, released Tuesday, the two sides defined cold shutdown as bringing the temperature at the bottom of the pressure vessels in the stricken reactors to below 100 degrees. They also plan to reduce the amount of radioactive materials being released from the containment vessels and keep the radiation level around the plant to less than 1 millisievert per year by mid-January, which may enable some evacuees to return home.


It appears that they're only treating the symptoms, with no plan in place to address the real problem, the crack and holes in the reactor core containment vessels:



To substantially reduce the amount of radioactive materials released from the plant, Tepco needs to get to the bottom of the problem: plugging holes or cracks in the reactors' containment vessels that are allowing contaminated water to flood on-site facilities, including the reactor buildings and turbine buildings, experts said. The updated road map, however, includes no reference to this critical work in the second stage, even though it was mentioned in past plans. And without fixing this problem, it is difficult to say that the release of radioactive materials is under control.


This seems to be perplexing some experts:




"In terms of managing the leakage of radioactive materials, I think plugging the holes will be the most important point," said Tsuyoshi Misawa, a professor of reactor physics at Kyoto University's Research Reactor Institute, adding he was perplexed it wasn't included in the new plan. Hisashi Ninokata, a professor of reactor engineering at Tokyo Institute of Technology, also stressed the importance of plugging the leaks in the containment vessels. "It seems unclear what kind of plans they are considering," Ninokata said.


And as late as mid July, monitoring stations in Japan were still detecting iodine-131 levels up to quadruple cesium levels in water reclamation centers - you know, the iodine-131 that has a half-life of 8.02 days...the one that is produced in active reactors?

Measurement of Radioactivity in Sewage Treatment, etc.

If the Japanese gov. passes laws censoring "Bad" Fukushima news, how in the world would anyone trust TEPCO who reside at the core of the problem? (Pun intended)



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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In my opinion it shows how inaccurate RSOE is. I stopped using it long ago. So... this is proof that people should not rely too heavily on it but seek better monitoring sights.

RSOE is a great idea but unreliable.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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I will not be irrational, but has it been contained? The threat reduced to allow the people back? Who is making these claims? Should anyone trust their government opinion? If a independent company goes onsite and reviews the data, then I might let them some leeway.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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i wonder what else they were "told" not too reveal,,,, were they "mis-interpreting the DATA" as well??????

stinks.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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I think stopping the monitoring was definitely designed to minimize further bad publicity by reducing any future release of potentially negative information. MSM can't report if there is nothing to report on.

It's hard to believe any Fukushima news when it comes from Japanese officials or TEPCO. They have a strong motive to provide only a positive outlook. Continued negative news can only cause economic turmoil and citizen uproar.

Instead of treating this has the worst nuclear disaster in history, it seems they are acting like a cup of coffee was spilled and is being cleaned up. They are constantly downplaying the seriousness of the catastrophe and completely disregarding the long term consequences and most importantly, the livelihood and welfare of their people.

It sad to think of all the plant workers who are unknowingly or knowingly risking their lives to contain the situation for a measly paycheck.

Did I just break a Japanese law by writing this on the Internet? :
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
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I will not be irrational, but has it been contained? The threat reduced to allow the people back? Who is making these claims? Should anyone trust their government opinion? If a independent company goes onsite and reviews the data, then I might let them some leeway.


Actually not accepting when a disaster has been contained is irrational. Welcome here though, so no matter.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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From NHK World, dated July 27, 2011:



The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has begun looking for new ways to reduce the amount of contaminated water that is hampering efforts to stabilize the damaged reactors.
"Looking for ways to stabilize the damaged reactors" - Doesn't quite sound like they are, so which is it?



TEPCO decided to use the robot to find methods of cooling the nuclear fuel in the first 3 reactors with less water. The utility injects about 390 tons of water into the reactors every day, but most of it becomes contaminated with radioactive materials.
"390 tons of water into the reactors every day, but most of it becomes contaminated with radioactive materials" - If the reactors were stabilized and not breached, how exactly would this water be becoming "contaminated" Perhaps by direct contact to breached core material that are still reacting and leaking completely out of containment vessels?



TEPCO says the temperature of the No.3 reactor is relatively stable, but it needs more water than the others because of leaks and other problems. Reducing the volume of contaminated water is the key to putting the reactors under control, but a system for treating radioactive water has been hit by a series of troubles.
"Reducing the volume of contaminated water is the key to putting the reactors under control" - Hmmm. To still need to put something under control implies that currently it isn't, doesn't it?


I call BS on their whole claim to be anywhere near controlling the situation. They are no where near "containing" the problem. They have multiple melt-through reactors sitting on an artificially created sub strata that was heaped together at near sea level and is pretty much liquefying with each 4.8, 5.2, 6.1 etc quake. Reactor 3 used a MOX fuel mix that is a potpourri of Uranium 238 and Plutonium 239, and with the plutonium having a half-life of 24100 years, you can throw all the concrete you want to on top of it, it's just all going to leak out into the water table as the whole soupy mess eats south that is pretty much directly connected to the ocean...

Chernobyl was sitting on a bedrock base that the Russians were able to burrow into and "enclose" the facility with concrete, all the Japanese are going to be able to do is cap over the top, with basically nothing truly solid to dig into to fully encase the Fukushima reactors. Only a few weeks ago they said themselves it would be 2021 before they begin removal of the spent fuel in the reactors if technology essential for the work has been developed before that.

A soon to be bankrupt company making plans based on technology that hasn’t even been developed, telling the world that they've got it all under control with a collusive, arrogant government passing laws to suppress any information that might sound "bad."

Yep, there's nothing to see here...move along...move along...



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Why worry about feeding irrational fears from paranoid people. A horrible thing happened but even the worst disasters have a point where they end and the rebuilding begins.


Like Chernobyl? Oh wait.

Yeah this disaster will end. In about 600 years when the cesium and strontium decay to reasonably safe levels. Until then it's a giant pack of lies.



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