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Neo-Liberal Communists and Marxists are destroying America

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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Movhisattva

Originally posted by discharged77
One thing that's hard for the left to understand is simple economics, Socialism breeds unemployment, look at Europe, its a mess of unemployment. But for some reason the left would love to model our economy after Europe's, its laughable really.


Are you sure?

Unemployment rate US: 9.2%
Unemployment rate EU: 9.3%

And for me: Belgium, 7.3%

source

Interesting list for sure!

I noted that Vanuatu has a staggering 78% unemployment rate. I knew I had heard that name before... well, yes, that is apparantly the happiest place on earth! news.bbc.co.uk...

Great stuff to ponder on, instead of bickering about.




posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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SS is classified as more of a ponzi scheme. To pay out to oldler folks, new people have to come in to the system. The money doesn't just sit around in piles with your name on it, even though you may have been paying in to the system all your life. That is the sting of having the govt control everything. They get to use the money however they see fit. If it's not there when you retire, oh sorry we have to raise the age of retirement, oh sorry, the system is going broke, oh sorry sorry sorry....
The govt is sorry and we are getting more Statist all the time. Think it's going to be better with the health ins scam, I mean, ponzi, I mean program? If SS is mixed up now, wait till the healthcare scam gets going. And there will be death panels to fix that one.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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I found this vid while I was listening to Alex Jones, coincidentaly. Right when Alex said, by the way, the Bohemian Grove is still going on for 3 more days, right now.
This is a Ralph Nader vid about the Grove, but in there, the woman interviewer says, you can be assured, those men are not discussing how to get everyone a more living wage.
At the beginning, you can see that the members are mostly Republicans. Some Democrats, powerfull Democrats approved of by the Bilderbergs.
I wish everyone could ---know--- that these powerbrokers Grovesmen want the masses to hate 'Dull Care' (lesser humans than them) so as to not know which of those we should truly hate, as in, revile and reject them, for their predation upon all fellow humans.




posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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XYZ, that is the oldest trick in the book. Try again. We know what communism is and who's doing it. Or who is trying to do it.


I guess you should learn more about the Tea Party Koch Brothers then. There pushing Ayn Rand and Objectionism. She hated Communism only becauses she wanted to tweak a little to fit her own views. Koch Brothers loved Communism and Naziism because they were at the top of the pyramid and made all the money kissing a55 of Hitler. Did you know who they worked with when they made all there money. Ilse Koch she made lamp shades out of peoples skin.




www.scrapbookpages.com...

Welcome to the new Tea Party Conservatives.

Don't think they bring you Russia with love. Try the New York ballet where the Koch Brothers put on ballet proformances by Russians of Ayn Rands novels. How about that other guy Trump the Chump married to a Russian and making a fortune selling house for hundreds of millions on a on going basis. Thats not a one shot deal. Orly Taitz a russian who lived in Israel befor moving to the US. I could go on. But who do you think is bringing you what?



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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I have not read a single thing on this thread. I am, however, abhorred that Mods on this site use a block called "political trolling" for responses, yet, a thread can have a title like this and continue on. If the title alone does not denote political trolling, I really do not know what does.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by JBA2848

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


XYZ, that is the oldest trick in the book. Try again. We know what communism is and who's doing it. Or who is trying to do it.


I guess you should learn more about the Tea Party Koch Brothers then. There pushing Ayn Rand and Objectionism. She hated Communism only becauses she wanted to tweak a little to fit her own views. Koch Brothers loved Communism and Naziism because they were at the top of the pyramid and made all the money kissing a55 of Hitler. Did you know who they worked with when they made all there money. Ilse Koch she made lamp shades out of peoples skin.




www.scrapbookpages.com...

Welcome to the new Tea Party Conservatives.

Don't think they bring you Russia with love. Try the New York ballet where the Koch Brothers put on ballet proformances by Russians of Ayn Rands novels. How about that other guy Trump the Chump married to a Russian and making a fortune selling house for hundreds of millions on a on going basis. Thats not a one shot deal. Orly Taitz a russian who lived in Israel befor moving to the US. I could go on. But who do you think is bringing you what?



Why do liberals keep blabbering about the Koch bros when it comes to the T Party? I never heard of Koch bros even till liberals started going on about it. Koch bros never told me to go to a T Party rally and they sure as heck never paid for the signs I personally had printed at Kinkos at my expense. They never told me what to put on those signs like the liberal unions had all their fancy purple signs made up and no one had to think about it. Par for the course. T Party signs are so much more interesting and original. Don't gripe about T Party till you've been to a rally. Or are you one of those America haters who refuse to fly a US flag or wear a flag pin on your lapel and youre embarrassed to put your hand over your heart for the National Anthem because you are convinced the US is just a bunch of Capitalist pigs now. Oh wait you said its fascist. But if you knew anything you would know that Hitlers party was National Socialist. That's leftist. Fascism is Totalitarian, it's leftist, and don't let Hitlers's hatred of communism confuse you. The Socialists hated the communists merely because they were too violent. But Hitler was pretty violent, so let's just get real about it.
However, I am aware that the Bush family financed Hitler, and the Rockefellers financed the Bolsheviks. Yes, that is the crazy part of it. But I think you are mixing up the actual system of Free enterprise with those people who made billions off of the wars. Take Rothschilds. Are they Capitalist? Communist? Socialist? Globalist? The answer is Yes. and Satanic besides.

You should really know that eugenics has always been a tool of Progressives since the Wilson era. Since you recommended some reading to me, I will also recommend some reading.
Try Antony Sutton's "America's Secret Establishment-The Order of Skull and Bones" and also Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism".
Antony Sutton wrote quite a few books, on topics of Wall Street and how big bankers financed Hitler. It's the same song and dance. But don't ever confuse the T Party with fascism.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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I thought I pretty much stated that this morning, with two POWERFUL posts which so far have spawned crickets...

While this thread, which offers no links, opinionated mud slinging, and the onslaught of bickering deflection artists accompanied by misdirection agents have spawned over 4 pages of ?

Garbled spew erupting from the assets of discordant disinformation detractors who have successfully BURIED my threads with little notice...

So I'll just choose to plant my flags on THIS battlefield... and challenge all you wiseguy knowitalls to debunk my accusations!

Adam Weishaupt: I Guess They Lied To You


the ATS crickets are providing a louder response to this than the ATS Free Mason collective... I guess they feel that We the People don't merit a scholarly rebuttal in response to this documentary record exposing their treacherous actions.

Perhaps they're tired of lying through their teeth about the Agenda, and regurgitating the traditional replies associated with this centuries old accusation against them.

Maybe they understand now that we won't believe them anyway


WWII Nazi Concentration Camps Populated By France? Confirmed.


This thread discusses the agenda operating in shrouded secrecy that was the direct cause of the atrocities and of the drive that constituted WWII, as it is this same shrouded agenda that's maturing before our very eyes here in America...

What may that be, you ask? The Illuminati are fully prepared, and as such have proceeded to maneuver their pawns and knights for the security of the great Illumination of Mankind...


S -n- F OP



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Strange you bring that up. Did you know what Hilers first move after wining was attacking the left. Did you know he added socialist as propaganda just to win more votes. That sounds just like the Republicans and the Tea Party to me.



After World War I, Hitler remained in the army and returned to Munich, where he attended the funeral march for the murdered Bavarian prime minister Kurt Eisner.[43] After the suppression of the Bavarian Soviet Republic, he took part in "national thinking" courses organized by the Education and Propaganda Department of the Bavarian Reichswehr under Captain Karl Mayr.





Eckart became Hitler's mentor, exchanging ideas with him, teaching him how to dress and speak, and introducing him to a wide range of people.[citation needed] Hitler thanked Eckart and paid tribute to him in the second volume of Mein Kampf. To increase the party's appeal, the party changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party; NSDAP).


Social Democrats were the only ones to vote against Hitler being dictator.


On 23 March, the Reichstag assembled in a replacement building under extremely turbulent circumstances. Several SA men served as guards inside, while large groups outside the building shouted slogans and threats toward the arriving members of parliament. Kaas announced that the Centre Party would support the bill with "concerns put aside", while Social Democrat Otto Wels denounced the act in his speech.[79] At the end of the day, all parties except Social Democrats voted in favour of the bill—the Communists, as well as several Social Democrats, were barred from attending the vote. The Enabling Act, along with the Reichstag Fire Decree, transformed Hitler's government into a de facto dictatorship.





Having achieved full control over the legislative and executive branches of government, Hitler and his political allies embarked on systematic suppression of the remaining political opposition. After the dissolution of the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party (SPD) was also banned and all its assets seized. The Steel Helmets were placed under Hitler's leadership with some autonomy as an auxiliary police force.[citation needed] In May 1933, stormtroopers demolished trade union offices in the country, and all unions vowed allegiance to Hitler.[citation needed] The Catholic Church was forced to support Hitler and its Centre Party dissolved. On 14 July, Hitler's Nazi Party was declared the only legal party in Germany.[81



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Hitler did not attack the Left. He just didn't like communists. Or Jewish communists maybe, not really sure. The whole Hitler was a rite wing extremist is a complete misnomer set up by communists to confuse people. Eugenics is and always was a tool of Progressives. I mean cmon, what Christians believe in Eugenics? Where are they? It's Progressives who continually push abortion as population control.
Oh by the way my Dad was in the 82 Airborne and was in the original troops to reach Wobbelin to free the prisoners there.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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So you are saying that Hitler hated communists but it was Social Democrats who didnt like him? Interesting concept.

You do know that it was Southern Democrats in the US who were KKK ? You do know that Progressives embraced Eugenics in the US even before Hitler? I think you need to study the true history of the Progressive Party and stop listening to the fallacious lies trying to pin the insidious Progressive eugenics on the conservatives.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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Hitler was a leftist no doubt

John J. Ray

Hitler's American inspiration


Everybody now knows how evil Nazi eugenics were: How all sorts of people were exterminated not because of anything they had done but simply because of the way they had been born. And we have all heard how disastrous were the Nazi efforts to build up the "master race" through selective breeding of SS men with the best of German women -- the "Lebensborn" project. Good Leftists today recoil in horror from all that of course and use their "Hitler was a Rightist" mantra to load those evils onto conservatives. But Hitler was a socialist. As he himself said:


"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." (Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)


So it should come as no surprise that Hitler's eugenics were an intergral part of his socialism and that the great supporters of COMPULSORY eugenics worldwide in Hitler's day were overwhelmingly of the Left. Left-influenced historians commonly blur the distinction between a belief in eugenic or dysgenic processes and actually advocating a State-enforced eugenics program but we can find the facts if we look carefully. And it was American Leftists upon whom Hitler principally drew for his "inspiration" in the eugenics field.

jonjayray.tripod.com...

Toland, J. (1976) Adolf Hitler Garden City, N.Y. : Doubleday.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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It's patently ridiculous to pin the entire Tea Party movement with a Nazi past because there were ghosts in the Koch family.
However, George Soros did steal the wealth of Jews for the Nazis, and did declare it so, and declared he did not have one bit of remorse over it. Of course, his fingerprints are all over MoveOn.org, Tides foundation, Code Pink, La Raza, and just about every leftist radical and socialist and social justice organization in the US today.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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March 6 The offices of the Social Democratic and Communist Parties, the major trade unions and publishing houses are occupied by forces loyal to the Nazis.
Nazi Reich Commissioners are appointed in Bremen and Lübeck.
March 7 A Nazi Reich Commissioner is appointed for Hesse where the Government retires without resistance in the face of the National Socialist threat.
March 8 Nazi Reich Commissioners are installed in Saxony, Wurttemburg and Baden.
March 9 Bulgarian Georgui Dimitrov, Secretary of the Western Bureau of the Communist International Executive Committee, is arrested for complicity in the burning of the Reichstag.
Acting on orders from Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick, the SA and SS make sure that civil service supervisors are replace by Nazis throughout Germany.
Nazis occupy the Bavarian Parliament and expel the deputies. General von Epp is appointed Governor of Bavaria.
March 11 A campaign “for the destruction of Marxism so that the national uprising can become a reality” is launched. March 12
President Hindenburg bans display of the black, red and gold flag of the Weimar Republic.
March 13 Nazi Joseph Goebbels, age 40, is appointed Minister of Education, Public Information and Propaganda.
March 15 The Communist Party of Germany (KPD) is banned. All persons disseminating Communist ideas will be placed under arrest.
March 16 The Bavarian head of government, Held, withdraws, in the face of odious violence towards his ministers. Heinrich Himmler, assisted by Reinhard Heydrich, becomes Chief of Police. He establishes a second concentration camp at Dachau, northwest of Munich.
Reichsbank President and former Chancellor Hans Luther is replaced by Hjalmar Schacht after voicing doubts about the financing of German rearmament. Luther is sent to Washington as an ambassador.
March 17 The Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, a 120 man personal guard is formed under the direction of Sepp Dietrich.
March 19 Von Papen complains to the Chancellor about Nazi attacks on foreigners. Hitler defends the SA and issues a veiled threat towards the conservatives.
March 20 Hitler negotiates with the Center Party for support of his demand for full power. The Center demands guarantees regarding Church – State relations including recognition of concordats between the Vatican and the States, maintenance of religious influence in the schools, maintenance of presidential prerogatives and in regards to the judicial system. Brüning requires a written promise.
Communist and Social Democratic officials are arrested.
The opening of the Dachau Concentration Camp for political detainees is announced in the press.
March 21 Goebbeles organizes Potsdam Day to coincide with the return of the Reichstag and to demonstration unity of opinion between the nationalist right and the Nazis. The demonstration, broadcast in its entirety and filmed, is staged in the presence of civic and religious leaders with the participation of President Hindenburg, Crown Prince Wilhelm Hohenzollern, the Army, the clergy and representatives of the diplomatic corps. The ceremonies begin religious invocations and a memorial to the martyrs of the party led by Hitler. At noon, the Chancellor shakes hands with the President in front of the garrison chapel in a gesture symbolizing the union of Prussia and National Socialism and confirmed by the laying of a crown on the tomb of Frederick II. Later on, the Reichstag convenes at the Kroll Operahouse in Berlin under the presidency of Georing and approves a decree, “to prevent perfidious attacks” on the government of national concentration.
Emergency courts are established.
March 22 Nazi leader continue the bargaining with the 73 Center Party deputies for their support in granting full powers to Hitler.
March 23 The Reichstag meets at the Kroll Operahouse; the SS and SA surround the building and the deputies cast a vote of approval in the face of the implied threat. The assembly passes an act abrogating the Weimar Constitution by a crushing majority. Adolf Hitler is granted full powers for a period of four years by a 2/3rds majority vote which includes the Center Party deputies who as yet have not received a letter confirming Hitler’s promised acceptance of their terms. The final vote tally is 444 in favor and 94 opposed (only the Social Democrats, led by Otto Wels, rise to condemn the violence and oppose the proposal). Industrialist Fritz Thyssen who is not on the board directing the RDI issues an abrupt announcement of its alignment with Nazi principles.
March 24 The Employers Federation thanks Hitler for saving the German economy.
Parliamentary democracy is abolished by law.
Goebbels decides to co-opt the symbolism of May Day for the benefit of the Nazis.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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More on Progressive roots of Totalitarianism

pages.interlog.com...


The fact is that western intellectual socialist thought is the grand-father, father, and sibling accomplice of every horrific deed perpetrated by the totalitarians of the 20th century in the interests of, and for the greater good of, the Socialist State. The perfecting of assembly-line-like mass execution procedures and a slave labor - cum - extermination camp system for the disposal of undesirable elements of the population in the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany in the 1920s and 1930s proceeded without hardly any notice by the general public in the west, thanks to the filter of misinformation and rationalization through which the influential socialistically-minded intelligentsia fed to the public a completely distorted account of what was happening in central and eastern Europe and the vast Eurasian land mass of Russia. They did so because they sincerely believed that selective extermination of "useless" classes of humans was quite justified by the objective - the building of the ideal socialist society.


There is probably no one who has devoted more effort than George Watson to tracing the historical sources of totalitarian ideas in socialist intellectual thought going back to Marx and the revolution of 1848. Watson has published his findings, first in "The Idea of Liberalism" (1985) and now in "The Lost Literature of Socialism" (1998). Watson states, in both publications, that


' ... the long socialist tradition of genocide ... was almost a century old when Hitler began his programme of racial mass-murder in 1941-2. ... In the European century that began in the 1840s, as I have shown, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no conservative, liberal, anarchist or independent ever did anything of the kind. Lenin and Stalin had been exterminating people for years when Hitler began.'


Hitler was also arguably a socialist: in his own words, and according to those who knew him. Hitler's socialism was only a variant of the genre. Hitler's close confidant in the 1930s, Hermann Rauschning, published conversations with Hitler in "Hitler Speaks" (1939). The following are some remarks by Hitler on communism:
"I have learnt a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit," Hitler went on. "I don't mean their tiresome social doctrine or the materialist conception of history, or their absurd 'marginal utility' theories and so on. But I have learnt from their methods. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen-pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it. Look at the workers' sports clubs, the industrial cells, the mass demonstrations, the propaganda leaflets written specially for the comprehension of masses; all these new methods of political struggle are essentially Marxist in origin. All that I had to do was take over these methods and adapt them to our purpose. I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realise its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order. ... there is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communist always will."




pages.interlog.com...


History is replete with Progressives from the Wilson era who advocated sterilization, even forced, such as Margarent Sanger founder of Planned Parenthood.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
It's patently ridiculous to pin the entire Tea Party movement with a Nazi past because there were ghosts in the Koch family.
However, George Soros did steal the wealth of Jews for the Nazis, and did declare it so, and declared he did not have one bit of remorse over it. Of course, his fingerprints are all over MoveOn.org, Tides foundation, Code Pink, La Raza, and just about every leftist radical and socialist and social justice organization in the US today.


Well lets see the Tea Party paid for by Koch Brothers. There early relative was the butcher from a concentration camp. Bush there family got rich from the Nazis through banking. Koch Brothers pay for Americans for prosperity. Prosperity blog runs on the same servers as the RNC Republican National Commity. Thats the same ip address for gwb43.com which is the email service Bush used for every thing illegal in order to hide it from the record. You know all the missing emails. Theres something fishy smelling. And dont forget the first piece of legaislation Bush passed when he became governor of Texas was a bill for the Koch Brothers. And Bush did love to rewrite history and definitions to fit what ever he wanted to do. So dont bellieve every thing you read.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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In fact Fritz Thyssen is mentioned in Antony Sutton's book America's Secret Establishment. Wealthy industrialists support Hitler's movement. Just because they were industrialists did not make them conservatives. Bill Gates is a prime example of a wealthy businessman who also supports population control. He has stated publicly his favorite method is vaccines. It was at a TED conference for geeks. Don't believe me? Google it. Gates is as liberal as they come. He is an elite member of the Club of Rome which supports the UN Agenda 21. For the record though, I'm sure that Bilderbergs, Club of Rome, Bohemian Grove and other Elite clubs have not only members of Democrat and Republican parties, but elites from all nations across the globe.

To be fair though, the whole point of all this is the Hegelian dialectical reasoning of left/right and the conflict of opposites creating a synthesis which is neither right nor left but is the NWO according to Antony Sutton.

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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by JBA2848

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
It's patently ridiculous to pin the entire Tea Party movement with a Nazi past because there were ghosts in the Koch family.
However, George Soros did steal the wealth of Jews for the Nazis, and did declare it so, and declared he did not have one bit of remorse over it. Of course, his fingerprints are all over MoveOn.org, Tides foundation, Code Pink, La Raza, and just about every leftist radical and socialist and social justice organization in the US today.


Well lets see the Tea Party paid for by Koch Brothers. There early relative was the butcher from a concentration camp. Bush there family got rich from the Nazis through banking. Koch Brothers pay for Americans for prosperity. Prosperity blog runs on the same servers as the RNC Republican National Commity. Thats the same ip address for gwb43.com which is the email service Bush used for every thing illegal in order to hide it from the record. You know all the missing emails. Theres something fishy smelling. And dont forget the first piece of legaislation Bush passed when he became governor of Texas was a bill for the Koch Brothers. And Bush did love to rewrite history and definitions to fit what ever he wanted to do. So dont bellieve every thing you read.



You believe that the entire T Party movement is fascist because of the Koch bros? ok two can play this game. MoveOn, la raza, Tides foundation and just about every leftist social justice organization is evil nazi because Soros donates to them. Hows that? Soros stole for the Nazis and is therefore a Nazi. therefore all MoveOn is Nazi by your own logic.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Which Bush pray tell did rewrite history? Three consecutive Bush generations are Bonesmen.


The point is its patently false that the Kochs have that much control over the T party. But truly all leftists appear to be quite scared of the T party and its power as a group. That is why nancy pelosi and Janet Napolitano had to defame them and call them rite wing extremists. It's really even funny watching Pelosi with her scared little rabbit act talking of the evil T Partiers.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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2. A person who habitually relies on or exploits others and gives nothing in return.


Ah..so are we talking about Wall Street, Multinational corporations and the financial industry?

Surely they rely on/exploit the common man to feed their power,
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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Hitler was a leftist no doubt


So is this why he killed the communists and took the socialists out of power? They were too far right I'm guessing?



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