posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 06:53 PM
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
People have been resisting arrest for as long as there have been law enforcement personnel arresting people. The vast majority of people who resist
arrest do not wind up in hospitals looking as badly beaten as the man in question did, nor do they wind up dead. This would fairly constitute probable
cause in terms of the outrage being shown in this thread.
I would say that anytime the police use this much force and someone winds up dead it constitutes an obvious need for investigation to gather all the
facts so it can be determined based on those facts whether or not the police were justified in their actions. I do not believe it constitutes
"probable cause" for a knee jerk reaction to the situation.
All political power flows directly from the people. The members in this site count as people. It is not only their right to pass judgment in the same
way police do, it is their responsibility to do so.
The difference is that when the police are investigating someone for a crime, they gather FACTS and charge a person based on evidence not their pure
emotional response to the incident at face value.
The recent spate of dubious police beatings has not happened because there are more people becoming consciously aware of their inherent political
power and exercising that power as best they know how to, this recent spate of police beatings is endemic of an earlier population that blindly
defended police actions regardless of the circumstances. The echo of that blind defense can still be heard by posters such as you, but the times they
are a changin', my friend.
Wrong. The reason it appears there are more dubious police beatings is the advent of the cell phone camera. Most videos of the police using force is
completely justified and within the policy of the police department. The reason videos of the police using force appears to be police misconduct is
because of two things.
One, there are people out there who disagree with the police using any force whatsoever. They would argue that the police should not strike people or
shoot people and should instead use holds or shoot them in the leg instead of aiming for center mass. These people do not know what they are talking
about and have never been in a situation requiring action such as this.
Two, the video leaves out key moments in the incident that make the police action look unprovoked or excessive when in reality it was not. A video
showing the police using force to overcome someone and then arrest them could have missed the initial part where the person resisted arrest and began
fighting with the police first. As soon as the police start winning, the video comes on. This is due to shoddy camera work or the person taking the
video wants more "hits" so he only shows certain parts to invoke this very reaction from people.
It is ultimately the smug attitude that the members in this site should not pass judgment until you say they should that is what I am addressing with
you. The hypocrisy of your smug judgment reeks of foulness.
You still do not have enough facts to render such a judgement. Your short-sightedness and quickness to condemn reeks of foulness.