Saturn rocking back and forth?? What if CW Leonis were really Nibiru? Link inside., page 3

reply to post by KSprepared

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It seems to me that the data they found was very inconclusive to say the least

I think you misunderstand what they have written. The abstract states that the earlier assumption that the force was sunward is not correct when they examined data a period twice as long as others have inspected.

Would the Sun's heat counteract this? The model they used incorporates the forces acting on it including the Sun.

It remains unproven to me anyway.

Why is that? Is it because real scientists did the work instead of hoaxers?

So are you ready to provide even a shred of evidence to support that ridiculous PDF about Nibiru?

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by KSprepared

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That paper does not look like it has been published. It appears to be a paper that was written and that is all.

Here is a commentary on the paper:
Comet 2010 X1 Elenin, Earthquakes, Astronomical Alignments and Mensur Omerbashich

The paper purports to show that astronomical alignments, particularly that of Elenin, are the proximal cause of earthquakes of magnitude 6 or stronger. To save you time before you read the paper and my critique of it, I’ll give you a short and long summary.

Short Summary: It’s nonsense on stilts.

Longer Summary: A sloppy paper which presents incorrect data. It ignores basic information on comets, basic physics and its “evidence” is drawing lines thorough planets.

Thanks for that interesting article, I thought we were all going to die. SO, why are we building bunkers anyways?

reply to post by Centurionx

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Clearly, Saturn is not tilted. If it were the delicate gravitational balance that holds the rings in formation would be adversely affected and the rings would come apart. Also, it would be the talk of amateur astronomers all over the world that regularly view Saturn.

For example, here is an article telling people about an interesting issue to observe.
www.space.com...

Here is a link to a Saturn photographer from Kiev
maksutik.astroclub.kiev.ua...

Lots of people in lots of places are interested in Saturn.

reply to post by KSprepared

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Both sides still stand equal in my opinion.

The Pioneer anomaly is real. It has been discussed in peer reviewed literature for decades. The suggestions as to its cause are debated in a scientific forum where tough questions get asked about the correctness of solutions and whether or not issues have been accounted for.

On the other hand we have a childish write up by someone that is unable to provide fake data that an elementary school kid quickly sees as fake. The nutter places an object bigger than Jupiter inside of the orbit of Earth. Ever see how bright Venus is? Anyone notice a bright object out there that is incredibly brighter than Venus? No, of course not.

I have no idea why anyone would give such a childishly written hoax any consideration at all.

reply to post by KSprepared

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The answer is NO. Did you read the article by Alan Hale? There are a number of factors which would prevent what you suggest. Please go back and read the article and he clearly gives pointers on the life cycle of a comet and what can happen.

reply to post by cloaked4u

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Bunkers are being built and there are reasons for their construction. You can look the reasons up. Moscow for example will begin building bunkers in late 2012 to early 2013. The city of Moscow is larger and there is insufficient space for the population. That is the reason.

Another reason for building bunkers is that there are loonies that have freaked out and want one despite no threat. I figure there are plenty of cheap bunkers that were built for 1999 and 2000 and 2001 when the world was destroyed.

reply to post by KSprepared

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Seed vaults are built mainly by companies to store their "bread and butter." Some countries have built seed vaults as have some private organizations to maintain genetic diversity especially for food crops.

reply to post by stereologist

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February 4, 2010: Pluto changing

planetary.org...

Saturns moon thought to have ring turned discovered it to be magnetic disturbance August 6th, 2010:

news.nationalgeographic.com...

Notice the last line of this article.


Also, there is this anomaly on Jupiter May 20, 2010:

science.nasa.gov...

There is plenty going on out there.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by KSprepared

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Both sides still stand equal in my opinion.

The Pioneer anomaly is real. It has been discussed in peer reviewed literature for decades. The suggestions as to its cause are debated in a scientific forum where tough questions get asked about the correctness of solutions and whether or not issues have been accounted for.

On the other hand we have a childish write up by someone that is unable to provide fake data that an elementary school kid quickly sees as fake. The nutter places an object bigger than Jupiter inside of the orbit of Earth. Ever see how bright Venus is? Anyone notice a bright object out there that is incredibly brighter than Venus? No, of course not.

I have no idea why anyone would give such a childishly written hoax any consideration at all.

Flat Earth was discussed for a long time in peer reviewed papers, is it the truth? It was taught in universities and to speak of any other theory was blasphemy. Round 'Earthers' I'm sure they were called were 'roundly' ridiculed for their wild crazy beliefs. Experiments abounded showing how any other theory could not possibly be correct. Do we live on a flat earth?

Tough questions involving the facts they were taught in a school using the approved theorems from approved literature citing others who were taught the same exact facts, and no room for discussion of any alternative theories I'm sure. Or maybe they had a round table discussion where they delved into all theoretical possibilities.

reply to post by cloaked4u

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The lie that is often preached is that certain objects can only be seen in infrared. That is a lie.

What is really happening is that some objects are not hot enough to give off light. They give off infrared. Your hand does not emit light. It is warm to the touch and shows up on infrared film. Even though you do not give off light you can still be photographed because you reflect light.

What the liars claim is that the object is invisible because it does not emit light. Can you see yourself? Can you see a light bulb before you turn it on?

None of the planets give off their own light, yet we can see them in the night sky. We see the Moon and it does not give off light. Only the Sun emits light. Everything else reflects the light from the Sun. Were this object nearby it would be brilliant in the night sky. Being closer to the Sun than us would mean that it would be visible either at sunset or sunrise. An object that large as claimed would be visible even during the day because it would be so bright.

reply to post by KSprepared

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You list a number of issues and give no reason for doing so. You simply state that plenty is going on out there.

Of course there is, otherwise astronomers would be quickly out of business.

As for the last line comment, I stand by my statement that the solar system and universe are shaped by gravity.

reply to post by KSprepared

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Flat Earth was discussed for a long time in peer reviewed papers, is it the truth?

Flat Earth was never discussed in peer-reviewed journals.

reply to post by stereologist

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You keep saying we will see changes in our solar system, unexplained changes. I was just citing 3 that have occurred in the timeframe of this paper.

reply to post by KSprepared

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You keep saying we will see changes in our solar system, unexplained changes. I was just citing 3 that have occurred in the timeframe of this paper.

I've said no such thing.

You posted 3 issues. At least 2 are older and have been discussed here. None of what you posted has anything at all to do with that nitwit write up that was done by some kid with no idea how to fake data.

reply to post by luxordelphi

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There is no way to tell without asking CRU, but I believe they used 2 different satellites the first was the doctors, the second being GLP's astronomer built observatory.

reply to post by KSprepared

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You claim 2 different satellites and then refer to 2 ground based systems. Do you understand that mistake?

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