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Originally posted by trika3000
Can you prove to me that you exist, or for that matter that i exist? Our brains are viewed through our brains which we know are faulty. Inside every word and/or sentence we write is a meaning and a type of essence which can be brought forth to the mind by the mere opening of the word, can you point out to me where this meaning exists in such words?
Originally posted by radkrish
reply to post by SurrealEzen
No. Not at all. There could be different compositions for life. The Universe is stranger than we think. But I see life forms originating from the sun is highly unlikely. If aliens maufacture intelligent life, the sun's energy can be used more elaborately using them. But I see no reason for aliens to actually land artificial life forms on the sun itself.edit on 27-7-2011 by radkrish because: (no reason given)edit on 27-7-2011 by radkrish because: spelling
Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by m1991
Must I repost again?! Look, this is very simple. The sun runs on nuclear fusion and is pretty much entirely hydrogen. The hydrogen atoms collide and create new elements. Even the "energy" waves (radiation, light, etc) are all actual particles in the form of "beams." They still consist of actual matter. Unless you consider ripped-up atoms to be life, there is no life on the sun! It's not possible! What part of basic scientific understanding is not being understood here?
Temperature range has absolutely nothing to do with life at all. We're all very much aware of extremophiles in the ocean.
You claim to have "heard" of aliens living in the sun? Where? From this post?
Look, you can all go into a circle-jerk frenzy as long as you want but obvious facts are obvious. This isn't about priding yourself on having an open mind. This has nothing to do with the likelihood (I believe VERY likely) that there is alien life out there somewhere that is not carbon-based. Sure, we define organic chemicals has those containing carbon or a carbon-hydrogen bond but it's certainly possible to have other forms. Just everyone, please stop thinking you're being suppressed and persecuted. You're just flat-out wrong. If you can access ATS, you can certainly get to a search engine. I urge you to look up the reality of the situation. I don't mean guided searches with biased results. I don't mean Youtube videos loaded to the net by anyone with a camera. I mean actual, testable, verified, consistent facts.
Originally posted by ClamChowder
reply to post by SurrealEzen
I think it's much more likely that the Sun is it's own life form. When a star is born, there are ultra immense pressures, and things happening we just might not fully understand; we may hypothesize, and speculate, but is any homo-sapien alive today really sure what happens at the very second a star is born? Is it possible some kind of consciousness is created?
Think about an event massive enough, to create a sphere of material so dense, so quickly that a sustained nuclear reaction starts, and continues for hundreds of billions of years --- the sheer mass and volume of material needed to form this star, simply mind-blowing. Would it be possible when an event on that scale takes place, it also creates consciousness or multiple consciousnesses? If an event as small as a sperm touching an egg can create a life form with a consciousness, then why can't the birth of a star (which is so much grander at any level of compare) do the same?
Food for thought.
Originally posted by etombo
reply to post by Nobama
I am going to agree with you. I think it would be pretty unlikely that anything can exist at that temperature whilst being constantly blown apart on a giant fireball with no surface.