Dutchsinse vs USGS

reply to post by stars15k


Ya,,,,what you said,, ya,,,pictures,,,ya,,, lol


here is ALSO a picture of a plume

Originally posted by MaxBlack

We need more Dutchsinse types and less internet whiners and poodle walkers complaining that someone has undermined the authority of the USGS, because in my book the USGS is part of the problem and as of today's 6.0 earthquake right where Dutch said it was happening, proves to me once again that Dutch is a better source of honest reporting than any federal agency.

Really? There was a 5.9 in the Sea of Cortez about 800 miles away from Pisgah but I can't find anything in California. Oh wait, I see, somebody thinks Baja California is the same as the State of California...or something.

Brilliant.

reply to post by Heartisblack


Which means he is 100% WRONG.

Really, people study for years before being able to accurately use weather radar, and he doesn't have that type of education or experience. It's weather. A monsoon in the desert, which locals say happen.
Dutch is only making himself look foolish.

reply to post by Phage


ohhh Phage gets a yellow warning card from the mods,,,,

Although I usually side with Phage on these matters,(because he's usually right), I keep going back to the video because even though I am not adept at reading radar, I just can't imagine weather of any kind originating from a single fixed point, which is what SEEMS to be happening here. I'm attempting to keep an open mind and would ask that you all do the same. If it is weather as some of you believe, does anyone have an example of clouds or storms originating and spreading from a single point like this?

reply to post by MaxBlack


Yep I'd go with the Dutch rather than USGS. 3 plumes so far and USGS is blind to the venting. The plumes don't have to be visible ash to be volcanic. Its entirely likely this is steam along with other gases venting, that's why it shows as intense, invisible and disappears readily. Just flows with the processes at work in that area and I don't see why anyone would be surprised and be in complete denial that this event is occurring now esp considering the uptick in seismic activity.

This is why I don't trust what he puts out there.
I am ashame for even posting this cause the guy does not deserve any attention AT ALL!!!



HAARP RINGS!

Radar anomalies!

Enough said.

reply to post by Phage


Lmao. What a weird coinkidink...

No more than 3 days ago (weird IMHO), I thought Baja Cali was a part of Cali because it's called "Baja California" making it extremely misleading! I had never given it much thought, but I felt dumb when I found out otherwise.. Now you've gone and made me feel even dumber! Thanks a lot man!

reply to post by Tasty Canadian

Have a look at this:

Notice how the cloud develops in one spot and the top gets blown away? The top carries precipitation with it.

never battle wits with a youtube scientist, nor a sicilian for that matter.

reply to post by kdog1982


its about usgs they do earthquakes versus dutch guy

This area tends to have weird weather because of the location. You got the Low Desert Palm Springs, Indio, and then you got the High Desert Victorville, Hesperia, Apple Valley etc. Lower desert tends to be hotter, where as the Higher desert tends to be cooler. because south of the 10 fwy going down HWY 86 or the 111 its flat. Its open range with mountains along the edge, and the Salton Sea in the middle, and further south is El Centro, and then the Sea of Cortez. So you can see how the weather in that area changes drastically. A lot of hot air flow and cold air flow...

reply to post by wingsfan


Napoleon is here???? lol

reply to post by Phage


Phage:

That is not typical here in the southwest and the monsoon flow.

Yes there will be a building/rising of the moisture in the later AM hours, mostly over the sky islands (mtns over 7000").

However. the Mojave is considered to be "traditionally" west of the moisture. The dew point needs to rise above 54 degrees for a chance of rain during this time of year.

www.wrh.noaa.gov...

I have to respectfully disagree, the radar images are not matching what is typical for this part of the world at this time of year. Also, the Satellite Water Vapor Imagery the last two days has far dryer air in the area.

Regards and Nameste,

-Chung

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by kdog1982

 

its about usgs they do earthquakes versus dutch guy

You are right,Bob.
I have lost my way.
The USGS has nothing to do with weather or Dutch which is weird that
they would even acknowledge him.
But they do monitor volcanic activity,which they are slow to report.

www.volcano.si.edu...

The area surrounding 29 Palms is open desert, and there are many meth labs in trailers and shacks around there. They burn down and/or explode frequently.

I just spoke to a friend of mine who lives out there and he has not seen any large plumes of anything (smoke, steam, or otherwise) coming from the Lavic lake area.

I don't know if he would have seen it from his location or not so take that for what it's worth.

Is this the plume?



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Unusual geological event in USA on Tuesday, 26 July, 2011 at 05:02 (05:02 AM) UTC.
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Uploaded by smurfgt239 on Jul 26, 2011

Over salt lake by mill creek canyon


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Jul 26, 2011

Whenever I see people worshiping Dutchsinse, I feel like I am obligated to remind them that during the bad blizzard earlier this year...Mr Dutchsinse claimed that doppler ground scatter were "HAARP Rings" that were creating and steering the blizzard over the New Madrid Fault and he GAURANTEED that the New Madrid would have an EQ within days. Even after I personally showed him all his "HAARP Rings" were directly over doppler radar stations and linked him to an explanation of ground scatter...he continued with his fear mongering videos for another couple days.


So when I see people praising him and trusting his info....all I can think of is "HAARP Rings"...yes...he actually called them that.

He is a fear monger, he is an attention whore...but he is definately not a credible or an intelligent source. But it appears that he has accomplished what he desired...a group of followers that will hang onto his every word

Ok,if something did occur,do you think they would warn pilots
of aircraft that might be flying in the area.
They do have a system in place for that.

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Doesn't this depend on the fact that a plume would actually show up on weather radar. Can anyone find any example of a standard weather radar having a plume show up on it? The frequencies used by pulse-doppler radars are used specifically for how they reflect off of precipitation.