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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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What's wrong with consuming the most oil when you have the highest standards? If a person wants to have three cars they have the right to, and with it 3x the oil consumption.

As to where most of the oil in, say, Iraq goes. It goes to Asia. Probably a form of bribe to keep China or Russia out.

money.cnn.com...
business.timesonline.co.uk...
www.nytimes.com...

Can't find an old statistic from (I think) the cia that ranked the exports by region, but as of 2008 it;s split nearly even between Western Hemisphere and Asia, but Asia is gaining ground.

www.khanfer.com...




What are these then hmm? Collateral Damage?


Yes. First law in war: there is no law. The goal of war is genocide. The removal of a way of life and all its supporters. Many people supported what Iraq was before Saddam or the US, and wanted their own Muslims state. While not a fan of intervention, Iraq was one of the few dictatorships around with a powerful enough army to disrupt the local nations. It was a key location and, once taken down, forcing democracy was the only logical endpoint. However many die for that goal is irrelevant. War has no laws, and laws made on war by man are foolish at best as they really don't do anything. War is brutal, evil, and its only goal is the extermination of a specific group of people. Considering the war often was from civilian bombings and zones of destruction, I have no care for the numbers.




Bollocks. Unless you have spent time outside your own country, mixing with other cultures then you haven't a clue what the true meaning of diversity is. Spare me the whole "We don't need to leave America - why would we we have everything we want here" diatribe.


Well that sucks for you really, because that's exactly what I believe. And to be honest, being able to speak to a Spaniard who knows English, a Muslim who knows English, and a German who knows English enables me to quickly learn, annex, and swift through facts.

But if in this make believe belief you have more than one language promotes diversity, then by all means prove it. Show me a nation with more than 2 languages spoken by most people that is fully integrated and doesn't have huge racism and divisive problems. The fact that many different people live in an area is not a sign of diversity. The fact that they can live together in peace in America because of the one government and language that binds them all is.




Huh? Are you saying the American corporations leaders are actually from elsewhere? Are you saying America's rich actually come from elsewhere?


Not entirely, but yes. Besides Casinos run by Native Americans, I'm pretty sure most wealthy corporations and families are imports from Europe and Asia.




Europe colonised Australia.....are you saying Australia has been in an unending war? Don't cherrypick your examples.


What's their skin color and culture again?





So, America has been at war for 209 of it's 235 years and you don't see something wrong with that? I draw your attention to Rome - another empire that spent most of it's time warring - they collapsed in a rather spectacular fashion for reasons that now parrelell what is going on in the US.


Well no. Rome did not collapse primarily from its wars. Its wars fueled is power and authority, in fact. What collapsed Rome was selling Roman land to barbarians and not integrating their culture into their own. They pretty much sold themselves into nonexistence. Their culture became too disunited, the government no longer held authority, and their discipline and language were fractured. Thus they basically dissolved into myth.
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Not for long mate. China and India are fast becoming rivals - if China hasn't already surpassed you. If a horse is broken, lying on the ground, do you drag it back up and make it run until it drops dead or do you put it out of it's misery?


I'd probably get a car. India's existence is governed by China, and China's existence cannot last much longer. The internet and the Christians are working overtime to dissolve that blind faith in their government so many have. Will be cool to watch, not cool to be in, when they both topple from their bleak inability to promote freedom.
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There's a good movie scene in Billy Madison where the O'Doyle family, ever so blindly proud of themselves, drives off the side of a cliff while still chanting "O'Doyle Rules". Your attitude reminds me of this.


Good. Because if the O'Doyles were America, they'd probably first make the car able to fly. It's not blind worship. It's looking at the idea of what America is and what it's done here and abroad. It cannot be stopped. Of course, in theory what we did started in Haiti, so thank their revolution for encouraging our own.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by TheGreatAppleKing
That's a sadistic realization, if you think im lying there must be something wrong with you/and or you havent seen more of the internet.

People outside the U.S tend to think their GOV is better or their country is better for some reason but in reality its just about equal except for the murders and stuff...

And FYI the internet was created in America by the military in the late 20th century.....

SOOOOO.......yeah where do we go from here?


I have a question...why does US attack and murder people outside their own country?



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by air101
im sure sadam and many others had plaenty of time to understand but didnt. so how much time should we give them?


Who the hell asked you to depose them?

Oh that's right, it was about the WMD's that were never found.....

Bollocks.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Because they want to do the same. Because that's what religions, governments, and humans in general do when they are angry.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Because we can. Honestly. Our leaders think they are the policeman of the world. They feed the MSM bull crap, and the numbed up, strung out, drunk, reality TV driven citizens eat it up. After we see the BBC or hear from soldiers there, then our tune changes. But by then it is too late.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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No, it's because he was a dictator. No other reason. We put him in to watch out, he betrayed us, we cleaned up the mess. It's really the fault of really bad politics from the 60s. Now that mentality is on the rise again, and probably will be destroyed just the same again.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by air101

Originally posted by Movhisattva
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Well then.
Since you talk about giving to countries in need, let's share some plain numbers on foreign aid for development.
The percentage of GNI the US donates, ranks amongst the lowest from all 'developed' countries:



Source


wzus1.search-results.com...

i hope the link works.. so we give .20% yet we still give over 28 billion dollars closes was france at 12.. what would you rather have as support that percantage? or a piece of that 28 billion that no one else even comes close to.

sure we can give more so that we can get higher on a % list but why when no one else puts in half of what we do..
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To qualify as official development assistance (ODA), a contribution must contain three elements:

1.Be undertaken by the official sector (that is, a government or government agency);
2.With promotion of economic development and welfare as the main objective;
3.At concessional financial terms (that is, with favorable loan terms.)
Thus, by definition, ODA does not include private donations.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the countries giving the highest amounts of money (in absolute terms) are as follows:[1]

1. United States - $28.67 billion
2. France - $12.43 billion
3. Germany - $11.98 billion
4. United Kingdom - $11.50 billion
5. Japan - $9.48 billion
6. Spain - $6.57 billion
7. Netherlands - $6.43 billion
8. Sweden - $4.55 billion
9. Norway - $4.09 billion
10. Canada - $4.01 billion
11. Italy - $3.31 billion
12. Denmark - $2.81 billion
13. Australia - $2.76 billion
14. Belgium - $2.60 billion
15. Switzerland - $2.31 billion
16. Finland - $1.29 billion
17. Austria - $1.15 billion
18. Ireland - $1.00 billion
19. South Korea - $0.82 billion
20. Greece - $0.61 billion
21. Portugal - $0.51 billion
22. Luxembourg - $0.40 billion
23. New Zealand - $0.31 billion

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and we are still on top of private donations, so yea...
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and thats what i call "plain numbers.."
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"Puts in half as much as we do"

DUDE... the Netherlands has 16M inhabitants.. that's like what? New york alone? (ah no, NY has 9M inhabitants), imo percantages give a much BETTER view at how much you actually care about the rest of the world.

this is EXACTLY why half the world (if not more) hates the USA. You spend trillions of dollars that you dont have but conveniently print yourself each year on wars that have nothing to do with what they're told to be fought for, and for the outside world it looks as if the population is all fine and dandy with this, while the rest of the world can keep supporting the countries you keep invading (or no wait, "set free from terror and wmd's wasn't it?") through humanitarian aid.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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nice answeres!

its fine let them think what they want. we will see who they come running to when # hits the fan, whether its from a economy colapse or something else.

im sure china or russia has open arms for europe australia and all the other haters...



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Let's start by saying "One reaps what one sows"....

Today the United States is the biggest threat to the World.. At the times of the Cold War there was at least one country which managed to limit aggressiveness of the US. Today there is none.

Let's take some examples...

1) Talebans. According to the US, they are terrorists, and at the moment US is in invasive war towards an independent country (Afghanistan) in order to "stop terrorist threat".

During the cold war (70s), when Russia occupied Afghanistan, US armed and trained Mujadeens in order to create a force to drive Russian invaders away from Afghanistan. That wasn't very successfull. Then with help from Saudis, US armed and trained Talebans to fight Russians. That was successfull. When Russians were withdrawn from Afghanistan, Talebans were in the ruling position. US decided to support other parties in Afghanistan to create uprising in order to make way for more us-sympathetic government. That uprising went all wrong, and after that there were war between Talebans and US. (Talebans, CIA and Afghanistan: see Tim Weiner: Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA).

2) Without US government's continuous effort to cause uprisings and meddling with other countries internal politics there would be much more friendlier attitude towards the US.

3) In order to secure future availability of oil and other natural resources, they are willing even to start a war (with excuses of course like "chemical weapons" which were proven to even exist)... So.. invading independent countries when only looking their own economical/political interests, and at the same hypocritically pretending to be "police of the world" or "liberator" or doing favour to the world by getting rid of tyranns...

(Civilian casualties by the US so called "Peacekeeping" missions are fare more greater than casualties caused by so called tyrants (which happend to be head of the government not so us-favored but with rich natural resources))...



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91


What are these then hmm? Collateral Damage?


Yes. First law in war: there is no law. The goal of war is genocide. The removal of a way of life and all its supporters. Many people supported what Iraq was before Saddam or the US, and wanted their own Muslims state. While not a fan of intervention, Iraq was one of the few dictatorships around with a powerful enough army to disrupt the local nations. It was a key location and, once taken down, forcing democracy was the only logical endpoint. However many die for that goal is irrelevant. War has no laws, and laws made on war by man are foolish at best as they really don't do anything. War is brutal, evil, and its only goal is the extermination of a specific group of people. Considering the war often was from civilian bombings and zones of destruction, I have no care for the numbers.


I ask you the same question I asked the other poster: Who the hell asked you to depose Saddam? I seem to remember an excuse about WMD's that were never found.

If the U.S. doesn't want people to criticise them STOP DOING STUFF TO BE CRITICISED ABOUT! A novel thought there I know....

I can't believe you are sitting there excusing civilian casualties. It's despicable.





Bollocks. Unless you have spent time outside your own country, mixing with other cultures then you haven't a clue what the true meaning of diversity is. Spare me the whole "We don't need to leave America - why would we we have everything we want here" diatribe.


Well that sucks for you really, because that's exactly what I believe. And to be honest, being able to speak to a Spaniard who knows English, a Muslim who knows English, and a German who knows English enables me to quickly learn, annex, and swift through facts.


And you wonder why the rest of the world thinks Americans are arrogant and closed off.


But if in this make believe belief you have more than one language promotes diversity, then by all means prove it. Show me a nation with more than 2 languages spoken by most people that is fully integrated and doesn't have huge racism and divisive problems. The fact that many different people live in an area is not a sign of diversity. The fact that they can live together in peace in America because of the one government and language that binds them all is.


Living together in peace? Seriously? Race riots anyone? How about the fact that the word "racist" is used more in the US on a daily basis than anywhere else in the world? You guys are obsessed with it.




Huh? Are you saying the American corporations leaders are actually from elsewhere? Are you saying America's rich actually come from elsewhere?


Not entirely, but yes. Besides Casinos run by Native Americans, I'm pretty sure most wealthy corporations and families are imports from Europe and Asia.


So you admit that Americans aren't in control of their own country? Yet you stand there and still shout it's glories?

Sense, that makes none.




Europe colonised Australia.....are you saying Australia has been in an unending war? Don't cherrypick your examples.


What's their skin color and culture again?


Whose? Aussies? What are you talking about?




So, America has been at war for 209 of it's 235 years and you don't see something wrong with that? I draw your attention to Rome - another empire that spent most of it's time warring - they collapsed in a rather spectacular fashion for reasons that now parrelell what is going on in the US.


Well no. Rome did not collapse primarily from its wars. Its wars fueled is power and authority, in fact. What collapsed Rome was selling Roman land to barbarians and not integrating their culture into their own. They pretty much sold themselves into nonexistence. Their culture became too disunited, the government no longer held authority, and their discipline and language were fractured. Thus they basically dissolved into myth.


Sold to the barbarians? Umm, I don't know what history books you read mate but they took it off the barbarians, giving them no place to live which is why the barbarians sacked Rome.






Not for long mate. China and India are fast becoming rivals - if China hasn't already surpassed you. If a horse is broken, lying on the ground, do you drag it back up and make it run until it drops dead or do you put it out of it's misery?


I'd probably get a car. India's existence is governed by China, and China's existence cannot last much longer. The internet and the Christians are working overtime to dissolve that blind faith in their government so many have. Will be cool to watch, not cool to be in, when they both topple from their bleak inability to promote freedom.


LOL. Good luck with that reasoning when you are speaking Chinese.




There's a good movie scene in Billy Madison where the O'Doyle family, ever so blindly proud of themselves, drives off the side of a cliff while still chanting "O'Doyle Rules". Your attitude reminds me of this.


Good. Because if the O'Doyles were America, they'd probably first make the car able to fly. It's not blind worship. It's looking at the idea of what America is and what it's done here and abroad. It cannot be stopped. Of course, in theory what we did started in Haiti, so thank their revolution for encouraging our own.


Keep those rose-coloured glasses on mate - you'll need them to block out your empire collapsing.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
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No, it's because he was a dictator. No other reason. We put him in to watch out, he betrayed us, we cleaned up the mess. It's really the fault of really bad politics from the 60s. Now that mentality is on the rise again, and probably will be destroyed just the same again.


But.......but.......but.........what about the WMD's?

Bollocks. Nobody asked you to depose him - you went in there for your own advantages.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Romekje

Originally posted by air101

Originally posted by Movhisattva
reply to post by air101
 

Well then.
Since you talk about giving to countries in need, let's share some plain numbers on foreign aid for development.
The percentage of GNI the US donates, ranks amongst the lowest from all 'developed' countries:



Source


wzus1.search-results.com...

i hope the link works.. so we give .20% yet we still give over 28 billion dollars closes was france at 12.. what would you rather have as support that percantage? or a piece of that 28 billion that no one else even comes close to.

sure we can give more so that we can get higher on a % list but why when no one else puts in half of what we do..
edit on 27-7-2011 by air101 because: (no reason given)


To qualify as official development assistance (ODA), a contribution must contain three elements:

1.Be undertaken by the official sector (that is, a government or government agency);
2.With promotion of economic development and welfare as the main objective;
3.At concessional financial terms (that is, with favorable loan terms.)
Thus, by definition, ODA does not include private donations.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the countries giving the highest amounts of money (in absolute terms) are as follows:[1]

1. United States - $28.67 billion
2. France - $12.43 billion
3. Germany - $11.98 billion
4. United Kingdom - $11.50 billion
5. Japan - $9.48 billion
6. Spain - $6.57 billion
7. Netherlands - $6.43 billion
8. Sweden - $4.55 billion
9. Norway - $4.09 billion
10. Canada - $4.01 billion
11. Italy - $3.31 billion
12. Denmark - $2.81 billion
13. Australia - $2.76 billion
14. Belgium - $2.60 billion
15. Switzerland - $2.31 billion
16. Finland - $1.29 billion
17. Austria - $1.15 billion
18. Ireland - $1.00 billion
19. South Korea - $0.82 billion
20. Greece - $0.61 billion
21. Portugal - $0.51 billion
22. Luxembourg - $0.40 billion
23. New Zealand - $0.31 billion

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and we are still on top of private donations, so yea...
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and thats what i call "plain numbers.."
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"Puts in half as much as we do"

DUDE... the Netherlands has 16M inhabitants.. that's like what? New york alone? (ah no, NY has 9M inhabitants), imo percantages give a much BETTER view at how much you actually care about the rest of the world.

this is EXACTLY why half the world (if not more) hates the USA. You spend trillions of dollars that you dont have but conveniently print yourself each year on wars that have nothing to do with what they're told to be fought for, and for the outside world it looks as if the population is all fine and dandy with this, while the rest of the world can keep supporting the countries you keep invading (or no wait, "set free from terror and wmd's wasn't it?") through humanitarian aid.


i see.. your part of the crew that prefer 50% of 100 over .21% of billions? this is exacty why i feel we should just leave the world alone advance on our own #, make our own # and take care of our own ppl, see how everything turns out. i would love to see how the world would be with out the american help cause clearly 28 billion in one fvcking year just dont cut it. clearly ppl just dont know what sadam was doing to his own ppl, but we have a joke of a media? we dont get out enough to know other coltures? well then why the fvck are they coming to us? name me one other country that has as many different races that all get along for the most part.

i get that this is a conspiracy site but i need proof that we dont have gold to back up the dollar, i sure china and many others would have cought on to this long before you.

half the world does not hate america in a sense that its evil like half the ppl on ats believe. they simply envy america cause they want there home to be the same, able to generate billions to donate for others to build with peace. but hey america believes in freedom so if you think sadam was doing a hell of a job you are more then free to join that side..
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by air101

this is exacty why i feel we should just leave the world alone advance on our own #, make our own # and take care of our own ppl, see how everything turns out.


Oh my God PLEASE.....nay PRETTY PLEASE do this. For the love of everything holy would you just hurry up and do this PLEASE?!?!?!
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by air101

this is exacty why i feel we should just leave the world alone advance on our own #, make our own # and take care of our own ppl, see how everything turns out.


Oh my God PLEASE.....nay PRETTY PLEASE do this. For the love of everything holy would you just hurry up and do this PLEASE?!?!?!
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oh trust me the day will come. we will have a generation that remembers all this bs and you will find out first hand exactly how it is to live with out americas aid..

its like i said im sure china and russia will do better by your side. cause clearly your country can not take them on..

and we will have billions saved since you prefer a higher percentage over the dollar amount.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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Lol, you seem a little bitter mate.

The world will do just fine without the U.S. poking it's nose in everywhere. Funnily enough you will also find that people aren't so quick to be critical of the U.S. when it's focusing on it's own issues and not everyone elses.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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People outside the US, Hate the US.
Because they are outside the US.
Simple really.
Can't touch this...duh duh ..duh duh.. duh .duh ..duh ..duh..Hammer time.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties
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Lol, you seem a little bitter mate.

The world will do just fine without the U.S. poking it's nose in everywhere. Funnily enough you will also find that people aren't so quick to be critical of the U.S. when it's focusing on it's own issues and not everyone elses.


me bitter? nah... i live in the number 1 place in the world, everything that i need to experience is right here, cultures, history etc all right here im sure that makes you bitter.

"the world will be just fine with out U.S" where are you from? must be from a place that its all about you and your ppl fvck the rest.. the irony is i would bet we more then likely helped you guys out! but i envy your place, i really do wish our government had that mentality, do you know what 28 billion saved a year could do!



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I ask you the same question I asked the other poster: Who the hell asked you to depose Saddam? I seem to remember an excuse about WMD's that were never found. If the U.S. doesn't want people to criticise them STOP DOING STUFF TO BE CRITICISED ABOUT! A novel thought there I know.... I can't believe you are sitting there excusing civilian casualties. It's despicable.


War is despicable. And the only way you win a war is through genocide. Hell, the last war we really, truly undoubtedly won against a real evil threat, WW2, involved the nuclear bombing and vaporization of two cities, the firebombing of a couple of other cities, and the downright thoughtless total war over 3 continents. That's why we won that war, genocide. If you don't have the guts and balls to murder a million civilians of your enemy to teach them not to screw with you, then you shouldn't be fighting in a war to begin with. War is not some happy-go-lucky tour where toy soldiers dress up on an honorable field of battle and fight, winner takes all. War is an inhuman evil act of total destruction of an enemy who must be not only destroyed, but he and his wys and followers completely erased from history.

As to the WMDs, it's a little known fact that Saddam had a coupled of high-yield non nuclear bombs that he pretty much just shipped to Syria to cover his behind. But that's not why we were there. We were there to remove one of our people who went rouge. No other reason.




But.......but.......but.........what about the WMD's? Bollocks. Nobody asked you to depose him - you went in there for your own advantages.


Yes, we did. Problem? You jelly? We propped him up, we had a right to bring him down when he went rouge.




And you wonder why the rest of the world thinks A


Cool story bro.




Living together in peace? Seriously? Race riots anyone? How about the fact that the word "racisit" is used more in the US on a daily basis than anywhere else in the world? You guys are obsessed with it.


Yes, race riots happen. To which such perpetrators were driven out an eliminated, and are continuously so done whenever they rise to power. It's the American way to exterminate incompatible mentalities to freedom. The blood of tyrants and psychopaths feed the tree of liberty quite well.

To go back to what I said about war, when the US fought the civil war, the point was that both were incompatible to each other. Thus without any other choice, war was declared. The North didn't just destroy the South's army. The North burned its towns, poisoned the land, liquidated its crops, destroyed its civilians, blockaded its ports, and utterly annihilate the enemy. Once again, unless you are willing to do this to your enemy, you should not go to war.

Yes, we are obsessed with racism. That does not make us racist. To put it poetically, it means we have a constant look out for our ancient enemies of this land, those whom long ago took our brothers and sisters of dark skin and forced them to labor for their profit gain. The tree of liberty is forever yawing for the blood of these evil doers. The blood of countless slaves that fed the tree most unpleasant drink of slavery made its anger raw louder than ever before, and ever since the tree of liberty and its gardeners hunt without sleep the men and women who call themselves better than their fellow man for their skin color. Their blood is a most sweet flavor for the tree's growth and nutriment.




So you admit that Americans aren't in control of their own country? Yet you stand there and still shout it's glories? Sense, that makes none.


Sense, it makes all. When did I ever say government should have control over a country? Let them try to take it, but they will fail. I like the fact that the country is not under control fully of any one group, but the shared property of many.




Whose? Aussies? What are you talking about?


Just asking. You used Australia to claim European colonies can end up successful. I'm telling you, Australia doesn't have any natives running it. Other than the few countries the English actually tried to make sure were stable when they left, specifically Nigeria, South Africa, and India, every single place European colonizers were at is today in a state of civil decay, civil unrest, or endless war. Every country the US was attempting to colonize or influence like Europe did, has done pretty swell for itself since. Puerto Rico's suffering a bit, I'll admit. And Cuba is failtacular because they overthrew US influence. But most of the places the US has been to are today pretty much successful and getting better.




Sold to the barbarians? Umm, I don't know what history books you read mate but they took it off the barbarians, giving them no place to live which is why the barbarians sacked Rome.


Well no that's not exactly true. Rome conquered the barbarians, They did not win. Even the places Rome did not directly rule were irreparably changed by the presence of Rome at their borders. By the time Rome itself was sacked in the 400s AD, The Barbarians were no longer barbarians. They were client states of the Roman Empire, with roman technology in their army and roman styled governments beginning to pop up on their kings. The Barbarians didn't sack Rome out of revenge 100%. They sacked Rome because Rome couldn't pay its bills. Rome by this time was nothing more and nothing less than a private military contractor to local governors whom for over a century had been increasingly independent and growing more distant from Rome. Rome contracted military strength to defend against civil unrest, pirates, and the few remaining barbarians in the most Northern reaches of Europe. The Emperor was more like a lifetime CEO, periodically dividing up the empire among his sons and clients. Eventually the company went bankrupt, and the private armies went to Rome to get their money. Sacking it for wives, gold, and land soon after. The Eastern Empire was the only real Roman government left, and they pretty much cut themselves off from Rome.




LOL. Good luck with that reasoning when you are speaking Chinese.


Funny. China will be the #1 English speaking nation in a few years.




Keep those rose-coloured glasses on mate - you'll need them to block out your empire collapsing.


Good thing the Empire's collapsing. It will distract the government while we take back what's ours.
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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by air101

Originally posted by Kryties
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Lol, you seem a little bitter mate.

The world will do just fine without the U.S. poking it's nose in everywhere. Funnily enough you will also find that people aren't so quick to be critical of the U.S. when it's focusing on it's own issues and not everyone elses.


me bitter? nah... i live in the number 1 place in the world, everything that i need to experience is right here, cultures, history etc all right here im sure that makes you bitter.

"the world will be just fine with out U.S" where are you from? must be from a place that its all about you and your ppl fvck the rest.. the irony is i would bet we more then likely helped you guys out! but i envy your place, i really do wish our government had that mentality, do you know what 28 billion saved a year could do!


Culture?

History?

in the USA?

your little country aint even 300 years old. that aint history, and if it is, it aint one to be proud of from a sociological point of view.

the Maya's, Inca's and native Indians are the only ones in your continent that have any form of culture and history.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by air101

me bitter? nah... i live in the number 1 place in the world, everything that i need to experience is right here, cultures, history etc all right here im sure that makes you bitter.


So you have Aussie culture there do you? What about Indian culture? Or Middle-Eastern culture? Oh that's right, you are bombing the crap out of the Middle-East and chuck a hissy fit the second a Muslim wants to share his culture with you by building a Mosque or a shop or something.

You have American culture - slightly different depending on where in the U.S. you are, but all American nonetheless. Stop deluding yourself that you have everything you need right there in America and therefore don't need to travel and see the world.


"the world will be just fine with out U.S" where are you from? must be from a place that its all about you and your ppl fvck the rest..


Australia. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


the irony is i would bet we more then likely helped you guys out! but i envy your place, i really do wish our government had that mentality, do you know what 28 billion saved a year could do!


28 billion in the U.S. on donations compared to over a trillion spent on war. Hmm......I wonder what a trillion could do for you?



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