Chain Guns mounted with death rays. I need one of these!, page
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Topic started on 26-7-2011 @ 01:39 PM by SaturnFX
Just wanted to give props to our always creative ways of killing people through total metal developments.

Check out this neat contraption

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Yesterday, the two defense contractors announced that they are jointly developing a demonstration model Mk 38 with dual capabilities. The chain gun--originally designed to be manually aimed and fired--will now be remote-controlled and use an electro-optical/IR sensor ball to detect and track incoming targets, like UAVs or small watercraft (like the one that perpetrated the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen several years ago).

But according to a BAE-Boeing announcement, “the system also provides the ability to deliver different levels of laser energy, depending on the target and mission objectives.” Danger Room tells us that the fiber laser system can pack up to 10 kilowatts of punch, far below what the U.S. military has previously considered weapons grade but nonetheless effective--just a few months ago an Office of Naval Research laser fried the engine of a small watercraft with a 15 kilowatt beam (though that was designed to be scaled up to a more impressive 100 kilowatts).

Presumably, the Mk 38’s laser package could be upgraded as well, making the death ray part of the system quite a bit deadlier. Which is good, considering that sea air--rife with moisture and particulate stuff that degrades focused laser beams--compounds the many problems inherent in laser weapons systems.


I need one of these for fishing!

Anyhow, As a sci-fi nerd, I personally welcome our rayguns mounting on ships. Its funny really, when I was a kid, one of the signs that you were in the future is when you were being shot at by lazer beams verses bullets...I think we may be seeing the slow shift to energy weapons verses old school projectiles.


reply posted on 26-7-2011 @ 01:56 PM by Jugtalicus
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Because a regular old chaingun isnt enough to stop a small watercraft or a UAV drone...

These "defense contractors" dont give a # and will gladly make bull# like this when the price is right...


You know that saying money is the root of all evil? Well...thats partially true, its also the string by which we are controlled.


reply posted on 26-7-2011 @ 02:08 PM by xFiDgetx
Originally posted by Jugtalicus
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Because a regular old chaingun isnt enough to stop a small watercraft or a UAV drone...

These "defense contractors" dont give a # and will gladly make bull# like this when the price is right...


You know that saying money is the root of all evil? Well...thats partially true, its also the string by which we are controlled.


I'm sure the chaingun is more than enough for those two particular threats, but what about the times your fighting a much bigger one. Or you're firing onto land at tanks or some such? Plus as the OP stated, Laser guns are much full of sweetness. The first steps may seem stupid but the destination is worth it.

And not to pick on you but the quote is that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil; Much broader implications and far more true in my opinion. Though for your statement we end and the same place.

And to you Saturn, you should put a little Nessie or Godzilla in the water at the business end of that hoaky freaking laser beam in the photo.


reply posted on 26-7-2011 @ 02:30 PM by Frater210
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I am not sure why but that photo reminds me in some obscure way of the final act of Stephenson's Snow Crash.

I think they are neato, too. I would love to see one unleashed in a demo on multiple targets.
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reply posted on 26-7-2011 @ 02:49 PM by xFiDgetx
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I always knew the US had our backs.... Disaster averted!


reply posted on 30-7-2011 @ 05:00 PM by mbkennel
Originally posted by centurion1211
Uh, the laser component is most likely for advanced missile defense.

You know those "hypersonic carrier killer" missiles some here are always bragging that their country now has to deal with U.S. sea power juggernaut.

Laser could conceivably track and shoot much faster than the conventional gun.



Which ones? The fast sea skimming ones? The proper defense from those is a well targeted fighter aircraft (those things that carriers have) with good radar and AA missiles.

The intermediate-range anti-sea ballistic missiles that China is making? No defense for those.

People seriously underestimate the speed of ballistic missiles, especially when they are re-entering. They are conical, very very tough---as they have to absorb intense heat from atmospheric re-entry, and they are going very very fast. Faster than you think. As in maybe going from 50,000 feet to sea-level in 3 seconds.

A ballistic missile attack is like this: hmm, look at that bright light there, what is ...BOOM.

No, a laser that size is not going to work against a ballistic missile warhead in terminal re-entry.

The problem for China is to make such things which can hit a small moving target without nuclear weapons. How is the guidance going to happen? It is very hard to look down because it is going so fast and it's so hot. Conceivably you could have some external link pointing back up which is connected to a real-time sensor and surveillance system for targeting. An aircraft could be vulnerable, so maybe it would be a satellite---and returning sufficiently good and calibrated targeting info isn't easy or cheap.

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reply posted on 6-8-2011 @ 10:03 PM by GBP/JPY
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i was reading something about china has 640 missles on each cruiser boat...firing in salvos it said
so to defend against that......
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