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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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What is perfection?

Is perfection possible?

How would you or we engage in perfection?



If we were perfect...



Answer those questions and finish that sentence.


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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Harmony is perfection



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Perfection is consistency. Consistency is based on judgment, a set of criteria according to a source. Perfection in and of itself need not be "perfect" only a reflection of an ideal. So, yes, we can be.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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we wouldn't engage in perfection, because perfection is a simplicity. If it were composed of two parts, each part would have to be perfect, and if they were both perfect, why would they need each other? They would be separate from each other and therefore not perfect.

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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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I, personally, think it's nothing more than a subjective illusion. Sounds boring. I'll pass thanks.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Perfection is without error. But since error is a misconception based off incorrect information - Perfection is then any outcome, any consequence, any effect from any cause, because the appearance of perfection is perfect, given the format of the information.

Perfection in the Ideal sense would include the unknown or the mysterious imo. To know everything is a restriction, but to continue to wonder is the ability where omniscience is actually allowed, uncertainty is curiosity's companion and without the two, creativity is logically bound.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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• What is perfection?
Perfection is.

• Is perfection possible?
Yes.

• How would you or we engage in perfection?
Liberate from preconceptions, prejudices, judgements, rationalizations, ego, past and future.

If we were perfect... all is perfect.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Ok, I'll play
Here are my opinions:


Originally posted by smithjustinb
What is perfection?


Perfection is a conjuring thought, to merely show you the qualities you personally strive for in life at that particular moment.

A five-year old, who is making a wooden box, is ecstatic just to have had the opportunity to create something. An artisan, creating a wooden box, is applying his carpentry skills to every single part of the project, and strives for 'perfection' in every single facet of his creation. He is able to visualize finer details, and aims to get as close as he can to the parts he has envisioned.

One might pride oneself as being a knowledgeable and critical thinker. Their vision of a perfect world might be a world in which everyone is intellectual, and where common-sense is a birthright.
On the other hand, a lonely girl in high school, might think a perfect world is one where people just stop to say, "Hello".


Originally posted by smithjustinb
Is perfection possible?


Perfection is possible every day, although it is rarely noticed or considered. It is a gift, because all you have to do is imagine perfection, and you instantly know your potential. That same high school girl could overcome her loneliness by being the first one to say the "hello", so to speak.


Originally posted by smithjustinb
How would you or we engage in perfection?


Haha, I don't really know how to answer this one. I guess my response is just 'free-will', but i don't really know.


Originally posted by smithjustinb
If we were perfect...


we would constantly make our current potential a reality, thus eliminating fear.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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1. A sunny spring morning, about 20 degrees, with a nice cup of tea and a fag.

2. Yes.

3. Preferably sitting down.

4. Then I wouldn't be wasting my time on here. I'd also be rich.



posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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What is perfection?

A word made up by people who have to much time on there hands.



Is perfection possible?

All things are possible if quantified and measured and labeled and categorized into the realm of the possible. Yet for a while, nothing is impossible.



How would you or we engage in perfection?

One mistake at a time. Kind of like walking, all it takes is one foot at a time to get you moving and to your destination.



If we were perfect... Answer those questions and finish that sentence.


Ok sure why not, I will finish your sentence.....Perfection is Perfected.

Here is a poem that says much and says it better then I care to put it.


William Blake - Auguries of Innocence


To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.

A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all heaven in a rage.

A dove-house fill'd with doves and pigeons
Shudders hell thro' all its regions.
A dog starv'd at his master's gate
Predicts the ruin of the state.

A horse misused upon the road
Calls to heaven for human blood.
Each outcry of the hunted hare
A fibre from the brain does tear.

A skylark wounded in the wing,
A cherubim does cease to sing.
The game-cock clipt and arm'd for fight
Does the rising sun affright.

Every wolf's and lion's howl
Raises from hell a human soul.

The wild deer, wand'ring here and there,
Keeps the human soul from care.
The lamb misus'd breeds public strife,
And yet forgives the butcher's knife.

The bat that flits at close of eve
Has left the brain that won't believe.
The owl that calls upon the night
Speaks the unbeliever's fright.

He who shall hurt the little wren
Shall never be belov'd by men.
He who the ox to wrath has mov'd
Shall never be by woman lov'd.

The wanton boy that kills the fly
Shall feel the spider's enmity.
He who torments the chafer's sprite
Weaves a bower in endless night.

The caterpillar on the leaf
Repeats to thee thy mother's grief.
Kill not the moth nor butterfly,
For the last judgement draweth nigh.

He who shall train the horse to war
Shall never pass the polar bar.
The beggar's dog and widow's cat,
Feed them and thou wilt grow fat.

The gnat that sings his summer's song
Poison gets from slander's tongue.
The poison of the snake and newt
Is the sweat of envy's foot.

The poison of the honey bee
Is the artist's jealousy.

The prince's robes and beggar's rags
Are toadstools on the miser's bags.
A truth that's told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent.

It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.

Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.

The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;

This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.

The babe that weeps the rod beneath
Writes revenge in realms of death.
The beggar's rags, fluttering in air,
Does to rags the heavens tear.

The soldier, arm'd with sword and gun,
Palsied strikes the summer's sun.
The poor man's farthing is worth more
Than all the gold on Afric's shore.

One mite wrung from the lab'rer's hands
Shall buy and sell the miser's lands;
Or, if protected from on high,
Does that whole nation sell and buy.

He who mocks the infant's faith
Shall be mock'd in age and death.
He who shall teach the child to doubt
The rotting grave shall ne'er get out.

He who respects the infant's faith
Triumphs over hell and death.
The child's toys and the old man's reasons
Are the fruits of the two seasons.

The questioner, who sits so sly,
Shall never know how to reply.
He who replies to words of doubt
Doth put the light of knowledge out.

The strongest poison ever known
Came from Caesar's laurel crown.
Nought can deform the human race
Like to the armour's iron brace.

When gold and gems adorn the plow,
To peaceful arts shall envy bow.
A riddle, or the cricket's cry,
Is to doubt a fit reply.

The emmet's inch and eagle's mile
Make lame philosophy to smile.
He who doubts from what he sees
Will ne'er believe, do what you please.

If the sun and moon should doubt,
They'd immediately go out.
To be in a passion you good may do,
But no good if a passion is in you.

The whore and gambler, by the state
Licensed, build that nation's fate.
The harlot's cry from street to street
Shall weave old England's winding-sheet.

The winner's shout, the loser's curse,
Dance before dead England's hearse.

Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.

Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

We are led to believe a lie
When we see not thro' the eye,
Which was born in a night to perish in a night,
When the soul slept in beams of light.

God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Everything is Perfection, even Imperfection when Imperfection is the end goal.


Don't you just love this Imperfect Utopia?


Ribbit



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Perfection is imperfection..

We will always strive for perfection.. look at the friggi'n ideals of today's society..

If we were perfect.. there would have been total peace on earth.. we would have understood the imperfections of perfection.. and we would have cared for the actual human race and Mother Earth...



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by creatureme
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Perfection is imperfection..

We will always strive for perfection.. look at the friggi'n ideals of today's society..

If we were perfect.. there would have been total peace on earth.. we would have understood the imperfections of perfection.. and we would have cared for the actual human race and Mother Earth...


Butt this Matrix is intentionally designed to be Imperfect, thus, the Imperfection is Perfect.


"Order, via Control, breeds Chaos but Control, via Order, isn't Control." - Old Toad Proverb

Zero Control = Zero Chaos = Perfect Order

The Universe is Perfect Order, that's God's dew'n that We can see with all three of our eYes, so if God kNows how to create Perfection and it abounds throughout the entire Universe, dew you really think God screwed this up or is it intentional?


Why did the Chicken cross the road?

Ribbit


Ps: You must answer the' Why' to answer the question and the 'Why' goes to PURPOSE.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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Perfection is integrity and wholeness, and it's our natural state of being, perfect, whole and complete. Everything else is false and born of ignorance and misunderstanding.

"Therefore be ye perfect, even as your father in heaven in perfect."

No one can "try" to be perfect by outward acts, no the trick is to discover our already always innermost perfection, and rest on that as a first/last cause, out of which all good deeds will flow.

Whole and complete - that's perfection. It's who we really are!



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Perfection is undefined. It's like dividing a number by zero. What you are actually asking is what are the characteristics of a person who would be one or more of these: a) completely happy under all circumstances; b) fully desirable by others; c) physically and mentally functioning at optimum capabilities; d) really rich; e) really poor but thinks that "richness of life" is based on things other than wealth; f) able to get anything they want, but chooses not to; g) unable to get anything they want, and is completely happy with that; g) has no need to get wasted or to attain power and control over others in order to feel better.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by banishedfromthisarea
Perfection is undefined. It's like dividing a number by zero. What you are actually asking is what are the characteristics of a person who would be one or more of these: a) completely happy under all circumstances; b) fully desirable by others; c) physically and mentally functioning at optimum capabilities; d) really rich; e) really poor but thinks that "richness of life" is based on things other than wealth; f) able to get anything they want, but chooses not to; g) unable to get anything they want, and is completely happy with that; g) has no need to get wasted or to attain power and control over others in order to feel better.


kNOw! Perfection is defined mathematically. It's like dividing any number by finite, other than Zero, you get the original number Infinitely! That's Perfection!

You cannot divide by kNOwTHING because kNOwTHING doesn't exist and Zero represents kNOwTHING, so you cannot divide by that which doesn't exist. To divide by Zero is mathematically the opposite of Perfection, Chaos.


Ribbit



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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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I must have misunderstood the call of the question. I thought it had to do with humans achieving perfection.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by banishedfromthisarea
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I must have misunderstood the call of the question. I thought it had to do with humans achieving perfection.


Perfection has always been and will always pee.


Ribbit



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