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Again, your consciousness has nothing to do with the running of the bio-mechanical suit it wears.
You move the suit and you choose.
This is the soul learning.
The soul is the connecting point of the spirit and the body. It's like a modem by comparison. Information is the key to changing the soul (Self). When we bring the soul and the mind (consciousness) into unity with the law (love God and love others), our future actions create the image of our past as equal reflections. Our actions produce an agreement with our past. Sin and unrighteousness reflect future and past unequally by duplicity. This creates a dissonance between the two. We correct this by changing our past by moving new choices into the future. This is called mastery. If we cannot show mastery over the law, it masters us. This is the extent of what we can do as humans.
Spirit is different from body, just because a limb can be deformed does not mean the spirit can be deformed. The spirit creates through karma which brings in an imperfection. Body is the deformed spirit.
Your question about not having any sentience because of some type of disease, drugs can do this but only for a short time, if this disease was permanent how does it differ from death? The spirit can ignore the body on its own without drugs or disease through meditation and it obtains the inner consciousness which is beyond sentience.
A camera and the spirit are very similar. A camera captures a present landscape and sound, the spirit captures the present moment. Does a camera capture smell? Or touch? Or love and hate? No, obviously then a camera is inferior to spirit, because it lacks these, it does not contain everything life can offer. Even if it did, the spirit is still superior because it does not require a computer to play back the message or video, the spirit is one part, whereas a camera needs a television to play back (as well as a memory card, electricity, an audience, etc).
Vines are an example of vegetative growth. They have vegetative life in that they grow (vegetate) and expand due to outside influence (sun, rain, earth, wind, also pollination). Vegetation is the lowest living life, it has no consciousness (like animals) and no intellect like humans. The order is
Vegetation - no consciousness
Animals - consciousness
Humans - the highest intellectually (but not necessarily vegetatively).
A plant can regrow limbs, a tree can live hundreds of years, a human's body is brittle, but they have intellect. This means everything in nature has a positive and negative to it. A fly is quick and defies gravity, but can be easily crushed, an elephant is strong but moves slowly. A human has a mind but can use it for self-torment.
This is so because everything has spirit, although in different modes. So a vine growing on a tree has a powerful instinct for survival but not for doing math problems.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
I'm just gonna go ahead and mention Phineas Gage. Gage lived during the 19th century and was the foreman for a railroad construction company. One day an accident occurred and a large iron rod was sent through Gage's head. Amazingly, Gage survived his accident, but suffered extensive damage to his left frontal lobe. After spending some time recuperating Gage seemed to be physically normal, but his entire personality had changed. Where there was once a well-respected even-tempered man there was now a loud, rash, quick to anger man who was prone to indulge "in the grossest profanity." This demonstrates that an entire person's Self can be changed due to brain damage. The logical conclusion then is that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. If the Mind is separate from the Brain it would be subservient to the Brain making any differentiation between a Materialistic and Dualistic universe pointless.
I'd be p&*(*d at the world too.
That's a bad example, that's more like a life changing event that changes your personality.
It'd be better if it was a loud obnoxious guy before, then a perfect gentleman after.
Life changing events tend to create a negative spin on people, and they become bitter by nature.
Originally posted by SyntaxConspiracy
DNA is merely the blueprint of the interface to house a 4th dimensional consciousness or soul in the physical mass based 3rd dimension.
...and for those who have breached the 3rd dimension to make this realisation, it is a self-evident truth...for those who have not - the insane idea that mere chemicals and an edifice made of atomic slime can arrange itself to discuss whether it 'IS' aware of anything!
Originally posted by SystemResistor
Anything that you can perceive is not you, everything that you are is what you are not, what you are is your ability to perceive, and it is impossible to perceive your ability to perceive, although you can look back into your skull 180 degrees and see your own "eye" you will still be the perceiver that is perceiving your eye, and thus still unable to perceive yourself.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
the brain is inside the body.... the mind is only capable because of the brain = thought.
everything within the body is part of the body... that seems logical
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by SuperiorEd
["Can the universe be tricked?"]
To some extent, yes. That's what 'self-organizing complexity' is about.
Quote: [" Again, God is the governor of the laws."]
And up pops the mythological assumption once more. The real answer is ofcourse "42".