China's Space Program Winds Up, Targets Moon, Mars And Venus

China's Space Program Winds Up, Targets Moon, Mars And Venus

You see that proud chinese on the picture in article. He wants to kick Obama ass, who is only concerned how to harvest taxpayer money to fund banksters and his socialist utopia. For stupid Afghani and Iraqi war we will loose our position as space program leader.
At least if NASA isn't planning manned missions, they could have more fundings for unmanned missions. But hey who give a sh*t about space exploration, while there's an american idol!


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Originally posted by piotrburz

China's Space Program Winds Up, Targets Moon, Mars And Venus

You see that proud chinese on the picture in article. He wants to kick Obama ass, who is only concerned how to harvest taxpayer money to fund banksters and his socialist utopia. For stupid Afghani and Iraqi war we will loose our position as space program leader.
At least if NASA isn't planning manned missions, they could have more fundings for unmanned missions. But hey who give a sh*t about space exploration, while there's an american idol!


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GOTTA saybout time more ppl expolre or w.e really who wants amaerican idol.. when space can be explored ??

The Moon, Mars and Venus are not the only places in the universe to go to. Let's see who gets to Alpha Centauri first. And then on to the center of the Galaxy first, etc. There are lots of destinations in the universe to be first to get to. So for a few generations... the US can sit back, save money, and develop f-t-l space drive - for a real space program.

Ha! You are partially wrong. With VASIMR engine we could arrive on Mars in less than 50 days.
But i know it's no go for holiday flights
Although building a research base on moon is at our fingertips. We could use it to study some dangerous experiments, or that which need special environment or lower gravity.

Originally posted by piotrburz
Ha! You are partially wrong. With VASIMR engine we could arrive on Mars in less than 50 days.
But i know it's no go for holiday flights

Although building a research base on moon is at our fingertips. We could use it to study some dangerous experiments, or that which need special environment or lower gravity.

50 days I don't think so.

powered by a single VF-200 engine would be capable of transporting about 7 metric tons of cargo from low Earth orbit (LEO) to low Lunar orbit (LLO) with about a six month transit time.

Originally posted by Larryman
The Moon, Mars and Venus are not the only places in the universe to go to. Let's see who gets to Alpha Centauri first. And then on to the center of the Galaxy first, etc. There are lots of destinations in the universe to be first to get to. So for a few generations... the US can sit back, save money, and develop f-t-l space drive - for a real space program.

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We can't save money now, imagine where we will be in generations from now!! There won't be a USA in generations from now, China will have bought us up by then...

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No no no. You get it wrong. It would mean that the shuttle would develop an average speed of 19 meters per second.

3. What is the top speed of a VASIMR® engine? [top]

VASIMR® does not have a maximum speed. Any rocket engine will continue to accelerate its spacecraft until it runs out of fuel. On Earth, an airplane has a top speed because at some velocity the drag from air friction matches the maximum force that the airplane engines can apply. Space is a vacuum and hence there is no air friction to slow spacecraft down. VASIMR® is very efficient with its fuel, so it can attain very high velocities before it runs out of fuel. For example, a 200 kW VASIMR® spacecraft designed to sling-shot a payload to Jupiter will attain a velocity relative to the Sun of ~50 km/s before releasing its payload and returning to Earth orbit.

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Originally posted by piotrburz
reply to post by wmd_2008

 

No no no. You get it wrong. It would mean that the shuttle would develop an average speed of 19 meters per second.

3. What is the top speed of a VASIMR® engine? [top]

VASIMR® does not have a maximum speed. Any rocket engine will continue to accelerate its spacecraft until it runs out of fuel. On Earth, an airplane has a top speed because at some velocity the drag from air friction matches the maximum force that the airplane engines can apply. Space is a vacuum and hence there is no air friction to slow spacecraft down. VASIMR® is very efficient with its fuel, so it can attain very high velocities before it runs out of fuel. For example, a 200 kW VASIMR® spacecraft designed to sling-shot a payload to Jupiter will attain a velocity relative to the Sun of ~50 km/s before releasing its payload and returning to Earth orbit.

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Yes the top speed is very good BUT they take months to reach top speed it won't get to mars in 50 days.

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AND! it will have to slow down to get a slingshot effect to return otherwise it gets a slingshot to further out there!

This is the main reason why these ion thrusters are not going to be the future of manned deep space travel, they work fine for probes and machines, because you can't use solar panels for power out there for electricity (Though proven to generate insufficient power, for all you EU theorists), the only thing we have now to substantially power the ion thrusters is nuclear power, with plutonium on board, kind of lots of plutonium, tens of kgs worth of it. And that's just for a tiny space probe like DAWN.

A lot of radioactively unstable plutonium makes a lot of people nervous at launch, we'll talk about that at lunch sometime.

Taking a Sunday drive to Mars in your ion fusion mini-spacecar with the family to grab a takeout order of kung pao chicken...?

Works for me.