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Originally posted by The Revenant
The problem I have is this.
ATS is NOT dealing with its' hatred. We all have it. I have it with my views about right-wing and religious people. Others have it towards me because I dare to challenge the right-wing and religious hegemony established here on ATS.
Is the coming violence...the only answer? Or can we find another more 'human' way of living with each others differences?
You speak as though this 'Marshal plan' is common knowledge.
Originally posted by Cythraul
b) You speak as though this 'Marshal plan' is common knowledge.
You speak as though this 'Marshal plan' is common knowledge.
Anders Behring Breivik and the hidden hate of ATS
Originally posted by The Revenant
I just hope there's a future for us all, because if ATS is anything to go by, we're heading for another big conflict between the far-right and the left. I hoped I'd never see it.
The Revenant.
Originally posted by Hilltaker
You speak as though this 'Marshal plan' is common knowledge.
Hi,
For Marshal Plan information, please go to this homepage: www.google.com
There you can enter: The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP)
Thanks,
Originally posted by Ozscot
I enjoy the 'breaking news' which pops up here and many times it does so before the MSM gets hold of it - so I hang around - but in all honesty I have very little respect for those who would present this as a bastion of freedom and truth. It's more a cesspool of hatred. The only way to deal with it is hate back or stay quiet, both of which defeat the purpose of being here...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by The Revenant
ATS is NOT dealing with its' hatred.
If ATS wanted it to be different, it would be. That's my conclusion after much thought.
Hatred, division, fear and extremism are what feed and run this country and they are what keeps ATS thriving. It's become a hotbed of fear and hatred. When it was a group of people talking about conspiracy theories, there was no room for the hatred I see here now (and will not tolerate in my life).
There are Muslim hate threads all through the Politics and Social Issues forums, but start a thread about a supposed Christian terrorist act, and show frustration and fear about Christianity... and it goes into the RANT forum in BTS, supporting the idea that it's acceptable and understandable to hate Muslims, but if you hate Christians, you're just ranting.
Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly
reply to post by The Revenant
Excellent post...as a long standing atheist I support your views completely.... the part of the argument that really gets my goat is the whole "moral exclusivity" issue..... christianity, (and in fact all religions, except budhism), seems to think that without membership of it's exclusive club we humans are not capable of being morally upstanding citizens that care about others around us....... quick note..... moral fibre does not come exclusively from religious teachings... the majority of it is common sense and can be worked out by thinking for yourself.... an alien concept to the religious among us of course.... and a little scary, but believe me, we ARE responsbile for our actions.... all of them.....
It takes far more courage to be atheist than religious..
Originally posted by The Revenant
Usually, I'm on the left-wing side of the fence, and I'm quite happy to rant about scummy right-wing gits.
Originally posted by Cythraul
Originally posted by Hilltaker
You speak as though this 'Marshal plan' is common knowledge.
Hi,
For Marshal Plan information, please go to this homepage: www.google.com
There you can enter: The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP)
Thanks,
How is that helpful? I wasn’t disputing the existence of such a plan – I asked, humbly, for help finding information (I didn’t realize it was google-ready info – it seemed more specialist than that). Instead I’ve been ridiculed for not having heard of it – reminds me of that old adage: “the answer is only easy if you know it”. It’s never been mentioned in any of my schooling, nor in any of the dozens of political and conspiracy documentary films and books I’ve seen or read. I’ve also been a member of ATS for a long time and not come across it.
So how about instead of frothing at the mouth to get your pound of flesh (from someone who has not once arrogantly denied the existence of the Marshal Plan), just politely and maturely offer assistance or say nothing.
I’m very sorry I’ve not heard of it.
Originally posted by Cythraul
Originally posted by The Revenant
what about the Thatcher / Reagan years when the right-wing dominated the Western world?
What exactly made Thatcher 'right wing'? I'm genuinely interested because I don't know much about her policies. What I do know is that she oversaw expansion of the Marxist EU project, large amounts of immigration, the socialist healthcare system and - unless I'm wrong - tax increases. What I'm saying is - official history, social dogma and her incredibly posh accent tells us that Thatcher was 'right wing conservative'. Does that automatically make it true? Likewise with the Conservative party as a whole. What exactly make them right-wing? In fact, what makes them genuinely conservative in any way? What exactly do they conserve?
edit on 26/7/2011 by Cythraul because: (no reason given)