Originally posted by nunya13
In my opinion, and at the risk of sparking ire, there is no doubt the ideologies that fueled his actions are associated with the right-wing.
He hates Muslims
He hates Marxism/Cultural Marxism
He hates multiculturalism
He hates the left-wing
He desises that his country's media is controlled by liberals (according to himself)
I don't mean this to sound like a flakey 70's new ager (sleeping under a plastic pyramid frame and hanging rocks of quartz around the house to cure my
balding scalp, but I have come to believe reality is not a constant rather it is an personal experience unique to the individual.
No two life experiences are the same so in many ways the basics of the world, black and white, what is and is not can never really be the same for any
The life lessons and experience that have formed the framework of my morals and ideologies are different than yours and both of ours are different
than Blaine91555's so it shouldn't be any surprise that we can all look at the same image but all see a different picture, if that makes sense to
anyone reading besides myself.
For example, in your post above you read the text and when asked what you see as the primary commonality it looks clear as day. You see a right wing
ideology, right wing affiliation, right wing predisposition and it is obvious from your post you aren't taking your best guess or trying to get a
reaction out of the next person posting.
From your frame of reference this is a fact, just as it is a fact that the sun will rise in the morning or it is a fact that the color of the clear
midday sky is blue or it is a fact that the mississippi flows south to the gulf of mexico.
Interestingly, I see something completely different that is so simply obvious and plain as day from my viewpoint that it is the only possible answer
and the obvious truth to the question we are all asking...why?.
I downloaded and perused his manifesto as well, I haven't read every one of the 1500 pages but I thought it was obvious that the guy was trying to say
something and I made sure to spend enough time to feel comfortable that I understood what that was.
Interestingly, we both seem to agree on the bulk and highlights of the content but what I see as his defining quality that connects all the dots is
and he hates...
and he hates them
and he hates me...
and he hates you...
and when he gets done he starts again from the top because that's what he does.
Extremism of any kind is guaranteed to foster bad things in the best of situations whether it be a muslim guy in Pakistan named Usama who prides
himself on his pious devotion to his faith...
...or a guy named Anders who was borne and lives near Oslo that likes to dress up and take pictures of his bad assed self and considers himself so
hardcore that the belief he chooses to honor has been dead and gone for a thousand years ...
... or a guy halfway around the world in Oklahoma city named Timothy who worships the catholic god and believes he loves his country so much he is
willing to make the ultimate expression and kill it.
What do the three of those men, separated by thousands of miles and oceans of water have in common?
They are all motivated by and find their ultimate inspiration through motivations and beliefs fed by intense hatred.
Before you settle too firmly on the right wing I would like to ask you a question and see what you might gleam?
What do Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong and Adolph Hitler have in common?
First off, you could say they are the top three mass murderers of modern times. It depends on whom is answering but most would safely bet that between
the three of them they were easily responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people over the shared time of at most 30 short years.
Think about it, that's roughly 10,000 people a day, a fair sized small town, 10,000 people a day, every day for 30 years!
Anders Breivik murdered less than a hundred in a once in his lifetime chance and we are having this conversation.
To maintain the status quo Stalin, Mao and Hitler murdered the mathematical square of Breivik for a length of time multiplied from Breivik by an
exponent of 4!
Anders Breivik may as well have been nursing sick kittens or volunteering at the senior center his crimes are so infinitely minute in comparison
Stalin, Mao and Hitler.
If Breivik is bad, these three are evil incarnate.
The reason I am pointing this out is simple, Stalin, Mao and Hitler were also... all.... Hardcore Left -Wingers!!
Joseph Stalin-Premier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Mao Zedong-1st Chairman of the Communist Party of China
Adolf Hitler-National Socialist German Workers' Party leader.
With this (assumingly) newfound revelation do you believe that extremism left wing ideology has a inarguable association with a brand of intolerance
that time and again has a clear association with mass murder?
It becomes clear after opening ones perception to a broader frame of a larger view that Left Wing extremists are literally exponentially more
dangerous than right wing extremists.
Its a good thing none here seem predisposed to jump to conclusions otherwise everyone with a ticket to the next democratic national convention might
want to check above the door before entering to make sure there was not a sign reading "work makes you free".
Of course I jest but I am interested to hear your response?
edit on 27-7-2011 by Drunkenparrot because: (no reason given)