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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by EmVeeFF

Originally posted by Reaper2137
SERIOUSLY guys really? six pages and none of you have done any research none of you have even tried to do any thing.

are you all really that stupid that you can't see beyond your self? good job tho you managed to bury every thing and do ten pages of personal attacks..

none of you I repeat none of you have even posted one thing that refutes any of my claims.. not one


Ahaha you're accusing us of personal attacks? You should add reading comprehension to your list of classes to take...


once again try not distracting and come up with a counter you might have to go back a few pages. tho



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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Feel free to answer my most recent post, it sums up why this argument is meaningless but it does answer your questions.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
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We can tell you are very proud of the fact that you are in school as you cant quit mentioning it. As a matter of fact I do have degrees none of which are any of your business, nor are they pertinent to this dull thread.


In other words no you don't and your not willing to bring any thing because you would much rather distract and bury any arguments.. good job



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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by BrianC
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Feel free to answer my most recent post, it sums up why this argument is meaningless but it does answer your questions.


I will try seeing as you and others have done your best to derail this topic and bury it under stupid comments



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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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here is a non unique idea--those who believe the world is overpopulated stand up and commit suicide thus helping bring this supposed over population a least a little bit more down to what you consider practical levels. you can really prove that you support population control with a statement like that.



Originally posted by Reaper2137


1.) our current population is around nine billion and continues at an exponential rate. In the next 25-30 years that number will double. We are well over the Earths carrying capacity of 2 billion for the way we live. If we still lived as hunter gathers we could further populate the planet to 40-100 billion but we are too late for that.


well i think being hunter gatherers would actually be able to support LESS population since at least with farming we are raising our food. i think if everyone were out hunting that we would soon run out of wild game. as for crops, the way of hunter gatherer farming isn't near as efficient use of land space.


2.) Our current resources are getting depleted faster than we can find renewable or reuse-able replacements as well as our dependance on fossil fuels. While we still have vast land that is pretty much uninhabited. That doesn't mean we have the resources to support people should they move there.


if research wasn't hampered by the big oil CORPORATIONS we would likely have more reliant alternative energy sources. as for living in uninhabited areas why not, if we had a better cleaner source of energy we could easily. with irrigation the warm deserts of the world could be inhabited easily. adding more green to help with creating more oxygen would help support even more animal life.


3.) Food, Food is what makes the world go round. As we continue to grow food is becoming harder and harder to produce. The average American Farmer produces enough food for about 55 people by most estimates. While company's are working harder than ever to produce genetically altered food. Its not being done fast enough and we are already seeing millions starving world wide.


yes food DOES make the world go round. if we didn't force farmers to destroy so much of it we would have more then enough. we WOULDN'T see MILLIONS starving, the food is there but it gets DESTROYED not distributed. i wouldn't even call that an estimate as since the amount of food a farmer can produce is REGULATED it is more of a fact. Gm food is more like a plague then a help for humanity thank you. all work on it should be stopped and what there is destroyed BEFORE it destroys the real food that we have.


4.) loss of bio-diversity, and loss of life, and pollution these things are farther factors hindering the human race.
As we try and progress we are finding that many plants are going extinct to the point we are making seed banks to help if we ever need to bring them back in the future.


the real reason for the seed banks is to insure that it is available in case some disaster, like say GM FOODS destroying everything happens.

something i agree with pollution IS BAD. we could lessen it if we could just get off using oil, coal,nuclear power, and hydroelectricity, and go to a cleaner type of fuel. too bad TPTB, and corporations have been doing their best to stop research into it.


Loss of life not just in humans but as humans we are driving hundreds of animals to the brink of extinction and beyond. What can we do here? how do we know that we wont have a need for these animals in the future? or at least have them to tell our children that they were not myths?

Pollution that is another of the worlds biggest problems, no I'm not talking about global warming. I'm talking about crapping in our own back yards. Its not we who are going to pay for it its our children, They are the ones who are going to get sick, and possibly die.


again something to agree with too bad corporations and TPTB seem not to care. humans have screwed up where animals and nature is concerned. many want to stop it, but the BIG BOYS do as they will without regard. just as an example clear cutting is not supposed to happen but CORPORATIONS continue to do it. trees are supposed to be replanted but again that is ignored to a large extent (you really would think that corporations would do it voluntarily as to continue in business longer but hey they only care about short term, and planting costs money).


Major Corporations spill millions and millions of pollution into our air, water and land each year. At what point do we say enough is enough?


we have CORPORATIONS DON"T LISTEN to us peons


So should we look to sustainability in the future?
What would it take to bring us down to a manageable size?
Because if we don't come up with some thing soon, some one may do it for us and we might not like their plan.


many of us have been trying to look at sustainability but TPTB interfere with it as well as the money needed to fund research is in the hands of those that wish to keep us slaves on things like oil.

we don't NEED to be brought down to a reasonable size. for one thing there is a huge galaxy out there if we could get things moving in that direction. in fact as a child i was totally obsessed with books about the future how we would have space stations going in 2000, both for farming as well as living. strangely those books all disappeared without a trace, funny that. but it never happened as there was no money for independent work and the government likes to keep space for itself. we could still start now, better late then never as they say. we just need to get a hold of secrets that many of us feel the governments keep in hiding.

of COURSE WE WON"T LIKE their PLAN to cull the heard as it were. and guess what they have been planning it for a VERY LONG TIME. they WANT it to happen why do you think they have been stopping us from achieving technology that will help?

as for population control by limiting how many children we can have. well that's been working out really well in China hasn't it? they even murder babies at the moment of their birth.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Please God do it, U2U me with the info of where to send it and I'll send it all in as well.



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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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nahhh, you'll be out of the army in about a week after this.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by generik
here is a non unique idea--those who believe the world is overpopulated stand up and commit suicide thus helping bring this supposed over population a least a little bit more down to what you consider practical levels. you can really prove that you support population control with a statement like that.



Originally posted by Reaper2137


1.) our current population is around nine billion and continues at an exponential rate. In the next 25-30 years that number will double. We are well over the Earths carrying capacity of 2 billion for the way we live. If we still lived as hunter gathers we could further populate the planet to 40-100 billion but we are too late for that.


well i think being hunter gatherers would actually be able to support LESS population since at least with farming we are raising our food. i think if everyone were out hunting that we would soon run out of wild game. as for crops, the way of hunter gatherer farming isn't near as efficient use of land space.


2.) Our current resources are getting depleted faster than we can find renewable or reuse-able replacements as well as our dependance on fossil fuels. While we still have vast land that is pretty much uninhabited. That doesn't mean we have the resources to support people should they move there.


if research wasn't hampered by the big oil CORPORATIONS we would likely have more reliant alternative energy sources. as for living in uninhabited areas why not, if we had a better cleaner source of energy we could easily. with irrigation the warm deserts of the world could be inhabited easily. adding more green to help with creating more oxygen would help support even more animal life.


3.) Food, Food is what makes the world go round. As we continue to grow food is becoming harder and harder to produce. The average American Farmer produces enough food for about 55 people by most estimates. While company's are working harder than ever to produce genetically altered food. Its not being done fast enough and we are already seeing millions starving world wide.


yes food DOES make the world go round. if we didn't force farmers to destroy so much of it we would have more then enough. we WOULDN'T see MILLIONS starving, the food is there but it gets DESTROYED not distributed. i wouldn't even call that an estimate as since the amount of food a farmer can produce is REGULATED it is more of a fact. Gm food is more like a plague then a help for humanity thank you. all work on it should be stopped and what there is destroyed BEFORE it destroys the real food that we have.


4.) loss of bio-diversity, and loss of life, and pollution these things are farther factors hindering the human race.
As we try and progress we are finding that many plants are going extinct to the point we are making seed banks to help if we ever need to bring them back in the future.


the real reason for the seed banks is to insure that it is available in case some disaster, like say GM FOODS destroying everything happens.

something i agree with pollution IS BAD. we could lessen it if we could just get off using oil, coal,nuclear power, and hydroelectricity, and go to a cleaner type of fuel. too bad TPTB, and corporations have been doing their best to stop research into it.


Loss of life not just in humans but as humans we are driving hundreds of animals to the brink of extinction and beyond. What can we do here? how do we know that we wont have a need for these animals in the future? or at least have them to tell our children that they were not myths?

Pollution that is another of the worlds biggest problems, no I'm not talking about global warming. I'm talking about crapping in our own back yards. Its not we who are going to pay for it its our children, They are the ones who are going to get sick, and possibly die.


again something to agree with too bad corporations and TPTB seem not to care. humans have screwed up where animals and nature is concerned. many want to stop it, but the BIG BOYS do as they will without regard. just as an example clear cutting is not supposed to happen but CORPORATIONS continue to do it. trees are supposed to be replanted but again that is ignored to a large extent (you really would think that corporations would do it voluntarily as to continue in business longer but hey they only care about short term, and planting costs money).


Major Corporations spill millions and millions of pollution into our air, water and land each year. At what point do we say enough is enough?


we have CORPORATIONS DON"T LISTEN to us peons


So should we look to sustainability in the future?
What would it take to bring us down to a manageable size?
Because if we don't come up with some thing soon, some one may do it for us and we might not like their plan.


many of us have been trying to look at sustainability but TPTB interfere with it as well as the money needed to fund research is in the hands of those that wish to keep us slaves on things like oil.

we don't NEED to be brought down to a reasonable size. for one thing there is a huge galaxy out there if we could get things moving in that direction. in fact as a child i was totally obsessed with books about the future how we would have space stations going in 2000, both for farming as well as living. strangely those books all disappeared without a trace, funny that. but it never happened as there was no money for independent work and the government likes to keep space for itself. we could still start now, better late then never as they say. we just need to get a hold of secrets that many of us feel the governments keep in hiding.

of COURSE WE WON"T LIKE their PLAN to cull the heard as it were. and guess what they have been planning it for a VERY LONG TIME. they WANT it to happen why do you think they have been stopping us from achieving technology that will help?

as for population control by limiting how many children we can have. well that's been working out really well in China hasn't it? they even murder babies at the moment of their birth.


Thank you for a topic on thread. those are some great I deals when the people trying to derail this thread are done I'll look into it more in depth. once again thank you



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