personally I think the spending cuts on all the plans don't go far enough.
4T in 10 years? freaking joke! That comes to 400b a year, and that is disregarding the fact that most of the propositions are end loaded, meaning it may be only 20b in 2013 and a promise to lower it 700b in 2021 (which will never happen regardless)

and even if it was 400b, that's 400b less then the 1.6T over their tax income they are estimating on spending anyway!

So, by 2022, our deficit will still be 24T if not higher, regardless! INSANE!@ The US credit/barrowing bubble is GOING to pop, the matter is when.

Like a bad relationship, the longer you put off breaking up the harder it becomes. Our debt is no different.

First, they need to stop spending like a shopping addict with ten credit cards, after the overspending is stymied they can take a look at things like tax reform, raising income, excises for foreign goods, etc. BUT STOP THE FREAKING SPENDING FIRST

You could raise taxes on the so called "rich" (lol @ a mom and pop score grossing 250k/yr being considered rich) to 50% and we would still be spending in the deficit, every damn year.

Originally posted by Golf66

Originally posted by krossfyterrace is an issue and you know it is. only president in history that has been stonewalled this hardcore 24/7. in the 203 days since Republicans took control of congress they have only passed bills to eliminate jobs (2 million by some estimates) & have not introduced a single bill to create a single job. add the debt ceiling/budget debacle, and it looks like the Republican strategy is pretty straightforward: kill the economy, blame Obama in 2012.

Are you seriously asking us to believe that somewhere in a smoke filled back room in 2011 several prominent politicians in the Republican party are sitting around saying - "Let's get this black guy out of office"? You can't be serious.

While I will grant you there are some individual republicans who might have some prejudice on a personal level for simple reasons of plausible deniability they will never discuss it even with their peers.

They are stonewalling the guy primarily because he is a Democrat - that is pretty stupid if you ask me. Secondly, they are stonewalling him because he is driving the country into ruin with his socialist agenda. They feel they have a mandate from the people to do so based on the 2010 results.

I'll grant you they are not all as concerned with the county's fate as they are with making sure they get the White House in 2012 but I do not accept it is racially motivated.

i agree there are other things in the mix. and they are not in the back room they are in the lobby.

Originally posted by NonC0nf0rmist
Class warfare has started in our school system not too long ago, it is being indoctrinated for the future generations.

Not too long ago?

"class warfare" is the old war in human history.

White Vs. Black
America Vs. China
Christian Vs. Muslim

These are all nothing but distractions from the only real conflict.

Kings Vs. Slaves
Those who use most of our natural resources Vs. Those who do most of the work

They have effectively brain washed most of America into believing "the rich" are needed for the economy to operate.

Originally posted by SlasherOfVeils
personally I think the spending cuts on all the plans don't go far enough.
4T in 10 years? freaking joke! That comes to 400b a year, and that is disregarding the fact that most of the propositions are end loaded, meaning it may be only 20b in 2013 and a promise to lower it 700b in 2021 (which will never happen regardless)

and even if it was 400b, that's 400b less then the 1.6T over their tax income they are estimating on spending anyway!

So, by 2022, our deficit will still be 24T if not higher, regardless! INSANE!@ The US credit/barrowing bubble is GOING to pop, the matter is when.

Like a bad relationship, the longer you put off breaking up the harder it becomes. Our debt is no different.

First, they need to stop spending like a shopping addict with ten credit cards, after the overspending is stymied they can take a look at things like tax reform, raising income, excises for foreign goods, etc. BUT STOP THE FREAKING SPENDING FIRST

You could raise taxes on the so called "rich" (lol @ a mom and pop score grossing 250k/yr being considered rich) to 50% and we would still be spending in the deficit, every damn year.

Other nations on Earth have agreed on austerity plans. Why can't we?
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Growing the economy by removing uncertainty would allow us to lower the
unemployment rate to under 5%. That would send a tidal wave of cash towards
Washington DC in form of payroll taxes.
I'm not sure how we get there from here.