Obama attacks Bush admin. within first ten seconds of speech!!!!

Since someone brought up class warfare, and we know Obama uses it, I thought it would be appropriate to point out that Marxists do this as part of their regular strategy, and now race warfare is added because class warfare doesn't always get the results the Marxists want.

The Theory of Class Warfare Many social thinkers throughout history have noted that different groups' interests conflict. Marx's distinctive contributions were, first, to paint class conflict as a life-and-death struggle impossible of peaceful resolution; second, to treat membership in a class as essentially permanent and hereditary. The combination of these principles led him to sanction and indeed to urge "total war" against hated social classes, a war in which all methods are permissible against anyone with the wrong class background. Passage after passage in the Marxian corpus hammers home this brutal message:
[T]he antagonism between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie is a struggle of class against class, a struggle carried to its highest expression in a total revolution. Indeed, is it at all surprising that a society founded on the opposition of classes should culminate in a brutal "contradiction," the shock of body against body, as its final denouement?
The Coming Upheaval

Marx makes it quite clear that the class war will not end merely because the proletariat has gained the upper hand.
[S]o long as other classes continue to exist, the capitalist class in particular, the proletariat fights it (for with the coming of the proletariat to power, its enemies will not yet have disappeared, the old organization of society will not yet have disappeared), it must still use a measure of force, hence governmental measures; if it itself still remains a class and the economic conditions on which the class struggle and the existence of classes have not yet disappeared, they must be forcibly removed or transformed, and the process of their transformation must be forcibly accelerated.
After the Revolution

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Marxist Origins of Communism, III

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Jezus

 

how do you figure?

65 million americans on ss
45 million on welfare
25 million unemployed

thats 135 million people right there who dont exist without the government

the so called rich person doesnt need to government hence the classwarfare on them

www.usdebtclock.org...

First, the rich benefit the most from the existence of "the government" because it is the only thing that legitimizes all their power and allows them to live like kings while destroying our environment.

Originally posted by RRokkyy
The Rich are the Government.

The Rich is the Military, Pharmaceutical, Prison industrial complex paid
for by the middle class and poor.
Imperialist wars and drug wars
butter their bread.

Second,

"The rich" NEED the government the most.

They get to live in a fantasy world of abstract concepts and nominal variables and "government" is their link to controlling real physical resources. All the while the masses do the physical labor.

"The Government" is the only thing that allows them to keep control.

The masses will still have a Earth without the rich.
"The rich" would not have their fantasy world without "the government".

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keep pushing that nazi fascist propaganda keep repeating it long enough and hard enough you just might up convincing yourself.

til then anyone who can think for themselves knows better.

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Are you including those wealthy Hollywood actors who make millions from every movie released?

Originally posted by dizziedame
Did I really hear him say no SS checks?

That is a dangerous statement.

I take the bafoons words as a direct threat to me.

I worked 50 years and paid my taxes gladly.

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There was just a huge lag.

10 seconds and 3 years late on "attacking" the Bush administration.

Obama should have investigated the Federal Prosecutors, the Election Fraud, the bogus lies to war, the missing Billions from the Social Security fund and Iraq war, and so, so many other things.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Are you including those wealthy Hollywood actors who make millions from every movie released?

These Hollywood actors and their income, fall into the same category of small businesses that employ over 56% of the people who still have a job. These people also spend a lot to feed the profits of corporations and keep the consumption cycle spinning.

I work out at a gym close to Walmart. A large majority of Walmart customers are extreme examples of never ever working out or eating right. Now, since I work out, and they don't have the 'opportunity' to work out, should they also benefit from my hard work? Is government going to transplant muscle and fat to even the playing field?

By the same logic, why should I or hard working millionaires share any of their income with those who just don't work for it?

I support darwinism. Repeal safety laws to increase the intellect of the population. Shift responsibility of welfare back to churches and families. Teach responsibility so people save for their own retirement, and stop burdening us working people with old, frail, stupid, gluttonous, and lazy people.

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economix.blogs.nytimes.com...

Have fun on your beer run. Watch out for pedestrians.

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I salute your arrogance sir. Does it bother you to know that the rain falls on everyone? Surely you can think the drops away.

Jezus actually makes a valid point. The wealthy cannot be "wealthy" without some form of government...to set the guidelines for itself.

This is why FDR was hated so much by his own class....because he betrayed them.

It's really all about the money...and money is power. The less money you have...the less power you have. The middle class and poor have lost money the last 30 years...along with their power.

The power, and the money, is concentrated at the top currently which is why many of wonder why every single thing that happens is usually the middle class and the poor taking more of the pain.

Originally posted by debbrown
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I salute your arrogance sir. Does it bother you to know that the rain falls on everyone? Surely you can think the drops away.

I'm assuming you are offended by those people who work out and benefit from it.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Jezus

 

Are you including those wealthy Hollywood actors who make millions from every movie released?

Can you please explain that? Including them how? Who is making millions from the movies released? What does it have to do with anything? Tom Hanks gets paid before his movie gets released, not after. What about the studio heads? The producers? Who do you really think is making money in Hollywood? Julia Roberts or the guy that wrote her paycheck? How many of them are utilizing the reigns of government in order to ship jobs out of the country or destroy our environment? That damn Tom Hanks!

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What Bush did for us! Changed the paradigm.

front.moveon.org...

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Working out is great. Being so thrilled with yourself and denigrating other people is not.

Originally posted by mugger
Can we just of rid ourselves of all the politicians? The world would be a better place. I trust neither party.
There really hasn't been any leaders since Reagan, and Tip O'Neill was great also.
Both parties are to fault and have not taken care of there constituency or have answered to them.
They all need there feet to the fire, for about 12 hours.

Well maybe if even half the population was actually willing and able to start openly working for the benefit of the society as a whole, or even willing to sit down and listen to some ideas other than their own, the ideas of their parties or the ideas of their elders - we might actually be able to start getting somewhere, and start governing ourselves, for ourselves, as free men. As we are supposed to be doing...

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www.globalissues.org...

Okay: the US is in the war business - but do you really think that all those corporations that bid on
the outsourced weapons manufacturing for the government isn't going overseas also?

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so why does business leave this country? what are the elements? and there are many.

all too many closed minded people will say the obvious which is incorrect.

the fact is business leaves this country for the simple fact its cheaper to go elsewhere and once you understand those elements and its not greed its for survival.

once upon a time "Americas business was business" and now in this current political climate "Americas business is running business out of this country and cutting its own throat in the process".

there are alot of things that have to be addressed to even begin to think about outsourcing but that box will never be closed.

greed will never allow it and its not the greed the closed minded people will say.

blame whoever you want say whatever you want nothing will ever be done to fix it

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the fact is business leaves this country for the simple fact its cheaper to go elsewhere and once you understand those elements and its not greed its for survival.

BECAUSE OF TRADE LAWS AND A LACK OF TARIFFS TO PROTECT AMERICAN JOBS AND WAGES....WHICH THOSE BUSINESSES LOBBIED FOR.

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This is an interesting post on the NYTIMES and totally on point as to why The People Blame Bush
I would like to share the facts and the insights!

IEugene GorrinUnion, NJJuly 26th, 20115:25

pmLyle Vos at Post # 3 writes ". . . . People blame Bush, but it was the Pelosi/Reid congress who passed the absurd budgets. Obama merely double down on the damage done by Pelosi and Reid."

No, Lyle. Completely inaccurate and slanted post as usual.

The national debt for the fiscal year ending 9/30/01 (which was the Clinton administration's final budget), was approximately $5.8 trillion. That was the amount of national debt inherited by President George W. Bush when his first budget took effect for the fiscal year 10/1/01 - 9/30/02. The amount of national debt for the fiscal year ending 9/30/09 (which was the Bush administration's final budget) was approximately $11.9 trillion.

Accordingly, the Bush administration increased our national debt by $6.1 trillion ($11.9 trillion - $5.8 trillion). That's a 105% increase. In other words, the Bush administration more than doubled the national debt in our entire history and of the 42 prior presidents.

The amount of national debt inherited by President Obama was $11.9 trillion when his first budget took effect for the fiscal year 10/1/09 - 9/30/10. The amount of national debt for the fiscal year ending 9/30/10 was $13.5 trillion. The Obama administration increased our national debt by $1.6 trillion ($13.5 trillion - $11.9 trillion) during its first year in office. Now, in the second fiscal year ending 9/30/11, the debt will increase by another $1.5 trillion.

Accordingly, in its first 2 years, the Obama administration has increased the national debt by $3.1 trillion (from $11.9 trillion to $15 trillion).

This is much less - only 26%, so far - than the increase in the national debt during the 8-years of the Bush administration.

Here is a link to the historic debt for the last 10 years: www.treasurydirect.gov...

As to corporations going overseas? Well, unions made this country great and that is why T-partiers are so against them! Corporations have no taxes, and no soul, and no conscience. They would be happy to pay
$1 an hour - or $1 a week to ratchet up their profits. Corporations do not want to give fair wages, or benefits, and are taking advantage of countries that do not protect their citizens with child labor laws, labor laws in general, and any benefits whatsoever - much less mandated breaks!