Chinese fighter jets 'repel' US aircraft

From the RT article.

The Pentagon declined to comment on this specific case but said US reconnaissance flights in the area were “fairly routine” and were conducted in international airspace, as were the Chinese intercepts.

Ok, so 2 dogs barking across the road from each other. Fairly routine stuff.

All the dogs of war.

Yep - some stupid poster on ATS blowing off about something they clearly know f-all about!!

Yes, you are.

reply to post by DataWraith


Seriously?
Are you that naive?
Yes armies should be all about defense no question but guess what? Knowing what the other guys doing IS defense. Lets say we could get every country in the world to sign a peace treaty.How would you know if everyone stood by the treaty? If the treaty called for every country to eliminate its standing army and only have a militia ready to be called to service in times of crisis how would you know that every nation lived up to that promise? If you were Tiawan in that situation would you be willing to risk your national life on China's word alone?
Once a single country does not live up to the treaty it all goes out the window.
Trust but verify
an armed society is a polite society.

reply to post by harryhaller


Think he was referring to your "chink" comment there Harry. Probably not the wisest choice of words to keep a rational and level-headed discussion, but its your world friend, we're just living in it.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

What's up with that? Next thing you know they will be claiming Hawaii and Australia too. China alone just wasent enough, they then had to take Tibet, Hong Kong, and Macau. Now they want Taiwan, Indonesia, the Philippines, Japan, and Malaysia. After that they will probably claim India and Africa too.

And people call the United States imperialistic ....

They should have just shot down the US spies.

No warnings, just shoot once they even put a pinky toe over their line.

Originally posted by ateuprto
reply to post by Reaper2137

 

I agree, it seems a bit backwards given our operational capabilities. Makes me curious about the whole story actually. Could just be China blowing smoke. Could also have been a military aircraft that crossed the line unintentionally and max thrusted its ass on out of the airspace.

edit on 25-7-2011 by ateuprto because: (no reason given)

Satellites can be and are tracked by radar. You know when they are going to be overhead and can plan accordingly.

Then you fly an airplane over, unannounced, and all they can do is spit and piss about being caught.

Further - many of the spy aircraft in service now are for intercepting wireless communications - field radios, data transmissions, etc. A lot of the drone aircraft are used to fly in support of ground operations - providing tactical air-surveillance as opposed to strategic ("You've got an MG nest overlooking that intersection two blocks north of you - find an alternate." - not "Huh... look at this big-ass hole the Chinese are digging in the ground... what's that for?").

Satellites can't do everything. They can do a lot - and are good support for what they do - but you can't beat the fact that an airplane can flip orbital ballistics the bird and fly east for ten minutes then turn around and fly back west.

Originally posted by ateuprto
reply to post by harryhaller

 

Think he was referring to your "chink" comment there Harry. Probably not the wisest choice of words to keep a rational and level-headed discussion, but its your world friend, we're just living in it.

Yeah i got that. i was trying to be flippant, but i guess you can't say anything without someone getting offended.



Thanks for your comments though, peace.

reply to post by ChrisF231

And people call the United States imperialistic

And the United States isnt imperialistic? it is imperialistic in a bad way.

Originally posted by Flyinghaggis
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

The Chinese have harrassed US aircraft before. In the incident detailed below an unarmed EP-3E was intercepted and had to land in China after losing its nose in a collision with one of the interceptors.

Here's an extract from a website by David Lednicer "Aircraft Downed During the Cold War and Thereafter" :

"1 April 2001 A US Navy EP-3E Aries II (BuNo 156511) of VQ-1, with a crew of 24, was damaged in a mid-air collision with one of two intercepting People's Republic of China PLANAF J-8 II Finbacks off the coast of Hainan Island. The EP-3E made an emergency landing at an airbase in Lingshui China. The pilot of the J-8 II (81192) involved in the collision, Wang Wei, ejected and was lost at sea. Wang Wei was a pilot in the 25th Regiment of the 9th Division of the People's Liberation Army Navy Air Force, based at Lingshui. The pilot of the second J-8 II, Zhao Yu, returned safely to base. On April 11th the USN crew of Shane Osborn (pilot), John Comerford (co-pilot), Richard Bensing, Steven Blocher, Bradford Borland, David Cecka, Shawn Coursen, Jeremy Crandall, Josef Edmunds, Brandon Funk, Scott Guidry, Jason Hanser, Patrick Honeck, Regina Kauffman, Nicholas Mellos, Ramon Mercado, Richard Payne, Kenneth Richter, Marcia Sonon, Jeffery Vignery, Wendy Westbrook, Rodney Young, Mitchell Pray (USMC) and Curtis Towne (USAF) was released and flew home on a chartered Continental Air Micronesia Boeing 737. The EP-3E was disassembled and returned to the US in a Polyot An-124 Condor in July 2001."

David's website lists intercepts and shoot-downs 1945 to 2005, here's the link to it:
Intercepts and Shoot downs etc

Here's a Wikipedia link with more detail of the EP-3E incident, with a photo showing some of the damage :
Hainan Island Incident

Hope this is of interest !

FlyingHaggis........ great information...........I get the picture in my mind of a group of chinese 'dissembling' that plane peice by peice and then sending it back to the USA a little similiar to a shoal of Pirrahana stripping the meat off a bone.......

How humiliating for the Americans to get their plane back in peices........

PDUK

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

LOL We don't invade countries for the purpose of occupying them like the Chinese do.We also don't claim countries because they happen to be next to us.

If we were the Chinese we would be claiming Canada, Mexico, the Bahamas, Danish Greenland, and British Bermuda. See now how absurd those Chinese are with their claims?