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A Racist Conspiracy? Why are we taught that Black Africans never formed or ruled Ancient Egypt?

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by De La Valletta
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Up until the conquest by the hyksos the Shekem and shekeenah;the true names for the emperors and emperesss of khemet were black nilotic/saharan. "Pharoah" from "pyra" means white house or fire house or light house; it was the palace of the shekem and shekeenah not their title. The hyksos were an asiatic people who userped the crown of khemet , they were followed by Assyrians , Persians , Greeks and Romans so it is not surprising to find some white or asiatic dna in a "pharoah's" blood. Also khemetians freely mingled with other races and vice versa , especially from syria which was right next door and greece was just a hop over the pond.


your deep...but a tiny bit confused...
pharaoh = per-aa...great house.

the so-called hykosis of the 18th dynasty were not foreign...tuthmosis and amenhotep have been proven to be upper egyptian...last month zahi hawass uncovered a site beloning to amenhotep4 father in upper egypt.

khemet was the name of the nile provinces before the first pharaoh....then the country got a centralised state, by narmer and aha.. who were from nekhen /abydos...

now the 18th dynasty was in 1550 bc...and was egyptian...only the ideology of the cults were influenced by the asiatics...the time you see the asiatics & persians was in 664 bc.. thats about 1000 years after the 18th dynasty.


the socalled hykosis pharaohs were actually from upper egypt...asiatics appeared only 1000 years later.....
tuthmosis and amenhotep (including akhenaten) WERE ALL BLACK




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Apart from racists and bigots and ignorant morons, who cares what colour skin the Egyptian Pharoahs or indeed anyone else had?




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by LUXUS
Ok I understand now, if the dna testing showed they were black that would be ok, but because it showed they were white that makes it "racist"

how did the dna show he was white...whats white...if anything some pharaohs had an upper egyptian parent and the other was lower egyptian..they married for state unity...lower egypt had an influx of asiatic elites...who mixed with the royal line...

but the fact is...the pharaoh was a maitrachy...the mother had to be frm per-aa (house of the gods..ie osiris bloodline) to be accepted by the provinces who were dedicated to osiris...ie ramsees thwe great married an upper egyptian, he mighht have been mixed.


ASIATICS HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO BREED WITH THE ROYAL LINE...the pharaoh had many wives, one wrong child with one wrong wife led to egypts mixed bloodline..but this only happened a few times and not relevant....

peace



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Personally I think they should dna test all the pharaonic mummys and publicly publish it to put an end to all this bs




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by LUXUS
Personally I think they should dna test all the pharaonic mummys and publicly publish it to put an end to all this bs



Why is this bs?

Kemetic pharoahs were saharan african. They over time became mixed with other groups which accounts for greek/arab/asiatic dna in the mummies.

relax its ok.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Essan
Apart from racists and bigots and ignorant morons, who cares what colour skin the Egyptian Pharoahs or indeed anyone else had?



Some people care because of the current censored/prepared history is wrong or inaccurate.

I want to know the truth.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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I stand by my pyra , the consonants used would be p-r the r being a sun heiroglyph which would sound like ra or ray insted of a lion heiroglyph which would sound like ru. Anyways this is just silly semantics they all come down to mean the palace of the Shekem/pharoah.


The hyksos never got into upper khemet which is in the south which was controlled by the Thebans so no , this is false


"the socalled hykosis pharaohs were actually from upper egypt"






"the socalled hykosis pharaohs were actually from upper egypt...asiatics appeared only 1000 years late"

Wrong again I notice you spelling the hyksos as hykosis (and i'm confused) , hope you are speaking about the same people. Anyway the word hyksos or heqa khasewet as the khemetians called them means "foreign ruler" or "ruler from a foregn land" in khemetian. They were not native khemetians , they were not black. Google up hyksos and you will see in all khemetian depictians they were not black but asiatic , even their names indicated they had syrian backgrounds , possibly pheonecia.



"khemet was the name of the nile provinces before the first pharaoh....then the country got a centralised state, by narmer and aha.. who were from nekhen /abydos..."

I still stand by the true name of aegypt being khemet because it was , it was used to name the land of all egypt not just the nile delta , but what other name will you tell me it was i'd like to know , if it's mizraim that is it's asiatic name not it's native name.

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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The man in your video is a former head of the naacp and an acolyte of martin luther king jr,son of big daddy king and you want me to get all worked up that HE is upset over some allegeded racial shafting of darkies by historians?...give me a break
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Thats like al sharpton and jesse sr saying that Whites are bad people or that idiot farrakhan saying Whites are The Devil...who cares what those kind of people say?...No one I know...you can get all worked up all you want....



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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"like Queen Cleopatra, yet she was Greek
"..actually she wasnt Greek,she was Mesopotamian,Iraqi/Syrian...remember she was Ptolemys daughter,who got Egypt in the generals-property-split after Alexander died....blacks,especially black scholar women have been saying and trying to prove she was black for years....just aint happening.......
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Family album, King Tut & Egyptian warriors having fun with the afrocentrists



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
 


The man in your video is a former head of the naacp and an acolyte of martin luther king jr,son of big daddy king and you want me to get all worked up that HE is upset over some allegeded racial shafting of darkies by historians?...give me a break
edit on 8/1/2011 by Homedawg because: sp


You want to go to a football game with a african american person? Wanna go to a cowboys game? You may hate me for no reason but atleast you can hate the Wanna (B)Eagles for no reason also. Then its not so bad.

Whats a "darkie"? Is that some new form of elf from World of Warcraft? A "Drauie"? Must be some new race patch in the latter versions. A white(really white not just pale beige or peach brown) Ork or a Blue Ork....hmmm?
Which one has the better supports and equips?

You mean Darko Milicic? Yeah he's almost better than Jordan,Russel and Wilt.

yeah Darko is pretty good...


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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
 
"like Queen Cleopatra, yet she was Greek
"..actually she wasnt Greek,she was Mesopotamian,Iraqi/Syrian...remember she was Ptolemys daughter,who got Egypt in the generals-property-split after Alexander died....blacks,especially black scholar women have been saying and trying to prove she was black for years....just aint happening.......
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No one here is claiming that.

all we are saying is Egypt's populace was Saharan African before they where invaded by east-Asians,the Athenians,the Persians,and the Romans.

Thats all. All that other stuff is just a little too Glen Quagmire-ish...



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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De-nile isnt just a river in africa...Sorta like dem-bones...but not



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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We can only go on what is discovered. The fact that the Egyptian wall paintings show the Aristocrats as fair skinned and the dudes with the fans as black. It it probably truthful, that the powerful Egyptian empire captured slaves from, less developed and technologically savy races from further south. The Egyptians also used conquered peoples as slaves...eg the Isralites. At the time, Egypt's close neighbours in the Mediteranian were also technically savy and formidable opponents. The Peoples of Carthage, the Persians, Sumerians, Ancient Greek etc.
Its is not a racist assumption, it is plainly an educated deduction.
One cannot discount that certain "Negro" tribes didnt have sophistication as well. The Exploits of the "Queen of Sheba" (Ethiopia) is well known.
It is also an unfortunate Fact, that many "Caste" systems of certain nations, favour lighter coloured skin, and consider this trait more attractive and heavenly. The nation of India (1.6 Billion people) is the classic example, but this also applies to Oriental people, who seem to consider darker skinned "orientals" as the lower class..
This is not my opinion, but is fact.
Bear in mind that 6000 year old mummys have been found in China, with fair skin and European features. And it was said that the Genghis Khan family had Red Hair.......possibly a legend, who knows.
There is no doubt tho, that Humans turn black in the Sun, to counteract the effects of UV light etc.
Tho some seemed to turn a reddish colour (The America's)
It also seems to be that the "White" genes spread across ancient Europe to Eastern Asia and visa/versa. It appears that the Whites didnt infiltrate dark Africa in ancient times.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by gort51
We can only go on what is discovered. The fact that the Egyptian wall paintings show the Aristocrats as fair skinned and the dudes with the fans as black. It it probably truthful, that the powerful Egyptian empire captured slaves from, less developed and technologically savy races from further south. The Egyptians also used conquered peoples as slaves...eg the Isralites. At the time, Egypt's close neighbours in the Mediteranian were also technically savy and formidable opponents. The Peoples of Carthage, the Persians, Sumerians, Ancient Greek etc.
Its is not a racist assumption, it is plainly an educated deduction.
One cannot discount that certain "Negro" tribes didnt have sophistication as well. The Exploits of the "Queen of Sheba" (Ethiopia) is well known.
It is also an unfortunate Fact, that many "Caste" systems of certain nations, favour lighter coloured skin, and consider this trait more attractive and heavenly. The nation of India (1.6 Billion people) is the classic example, but this also applies to Oriental people, who seem to consider darker skinned "orientals" as the lower class..
This is not my opinion, but is fact.
Bear in mind that 6000 year old mummys have been found in China, with fair skin and European features. And it was said that the Genghis Khan family had Red Hair.......possibly a legend, who knows.
There is no doubt tho, that Humans turn black in the Sun, to counteract the effects of UV light etc.
Tho some seemed to turn a reddish colour (The America's)
It also seems to be that the "White" genes spread across ancient Europe to Eastern Asia and visa/versa. It appears that the Whites didnt infiltrate dark Africa in ancient times.


What white genes?

There are no "white" genes.

There are genes that are more common in europeans. But no "white genes" exist in humans.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Dont you love it when people argue over semantics just for the hell of it.

I'm sure you are intelligent enough to understand the meaning of "White" genes...yes of course it means European Native...do you want me to draw you a picture?

Of course, the Romans did some "scientific Research" in dark Africa too, but I consider the Romans to be Modern Culture not ancient (only 2000 years ago basically).

Now whether you think its white or wong, is up to you. You could be white, I could be wong. Or we both could be wong. White!!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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soo much racism in this thread. the native people of "egypt" are not the people who enter a land and claim it as dominion to their own culture; a practice that black people have not yet adapted to yet. you are not taught black people formed egypt and ruled their known world because today it is "illegal" to be taught that a black person can rule their own world or form anything within the context and structure of a white persons ideologies. if black people were given credit for all the things they did in egypt people wouldnt be able to say black people are worthless for the benefit of their own manipulation over black peoples resources.

the conjecture that white people ruled egypt is false in the guys of white culture in the present day. just like there are retarded people born today and people born with deformations and mutations because of the technologies a society uses there were mutations amongst the peoples of "egypt". unfortunately with the loss of power that was the pyramid technology system the culling of "these" mutants never came to fruition. whatever the egyptians were modern man is nothing in relation because of the systems used for societal structure; regardless what color you want to claim as your own.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
Thats like al sharpton and jesse sr saying that Whites are bad people or that idiot farrakhan saying Whites are The Devil...who cares what those kind of people say?...No one I know...you can get all worked up all you want....


Who listens to sharpton,jesse jackson, and farrakhan?

Not me.

the majority of black people like the majority of white people watch mega-corp viacom(MTV,BET) television.They probably don't know who they are.

Ask a random non-ATS person if they know about Jim Tucker,Bill cooper,Aaron russo,Daniel estulin or alex jones. Blank stare. What?

People know who justin beaver,lil wayne, Beyonce,Ryan reynolds, Kim Kardasian,Halley Barry, and John Cena are. They know what american idol,survival,lost,CSI and the apprentice is.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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The White gene is found centered in the Caucasoid lines of Medeterrian,Alpine and Nordic,...the Negroid and Mongoloids lines were certainly mixed around a lot in the scrub and scruff countries,as well as the crossroads places like persia where the conquoering Caucasoid armies came to play and leave their seed among the natives...if someone wants to get up on their hind legs over the fact that the "original" inhabitants of a wasteland were negroid before Caucasoids came and took over(the wall paintings and murals bear this out)then ok....negroids walked the sands before Caucasoids....I agree



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