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Again, if you did not overstand the point that if was trying to make earlier. We split because their were different views on dealing with white people. Those of the southern part wanted nothing to do with you. Those of the north started selling out and we see where that got us. You, like most like you want to say that the people in the middle east were the original inhabitants of that land which is not true. I don't know why you are saying this because if you are white you are not apart of those people anyway. You do know that what you are looking at as being tama-re and ethiopia covered a much broader area than today right.
It has been recorded that the times that egypt or tama-re flourished was under black rule. Any time a foriegn people came there it regressed. Egypt was completely black. Not mixed until we started letting you in and started schooling you. Look at all your greek and roman peoples that studied there. ptolemy, pythagorean, plato and the likes. Those of the southern part of the dynasty wanted nothing to do with you. Those in the North tried to civilize you and look where that has gotten us. This was a big issue for the Nation that stretched from the Americas into India. Egypt was shut down and became more like disneyland because we had to protect the secrets. Stop saying black africans like there was some other type of african there at that time. There are three root races, negroid, mongaloid, and caucasoid. Everthing you see now is a mixture of those. You have haplotypes, and blood types that distiguish further. The people you see in the northern part of africa and the middle east are not the original inhabitants. The Cu#e empire stretched all the way into india and was there when herodotus spoke of it. From the shores of montezuma to tripoli, that was the western part of the empire.
Nubia did invade egypt but that was a time when the puntites were taking back land that was originaly theirs. That land and the land above it was inhabited by wooly haired black people. Not white, not biege, not mixed. If you don't know history then don't speak on it. It may seem impossible in your mind that this could be, but just look at India and do some research and you will find that the original inhabitants of that land belong to the negroid familily also. Just like those of the americas. I don't know why white people think they are related to persians, or indians and whatnot. If you came out white then you lost that connection.
Are their any scientist in the house that I can talk to?
Originally posted by DeNaga
Then prove it wrong please. I can prove everything I say. Can you ?
This is the danger of people who think they actually know something. Read that sentence again and tell me you know what you are talking about. Please. Prove it please. You know nothing about scientific racial classification, this much is clear.
Again talking about things you know nothing of. Arabic is not really a language but you wouldn't know that if you haven't studied languages. Just like most people think we speak english but if you talk to someone from england, that will tell you the alphabet we have is wrong and we don't speak english.
We speak slang just like what you are calling Arabic, and yiddish which are from and older tongue.
This is our culture and you will never overstand the science behind what we have laid down, but you will know the facts, not the truth, but the facts.
You Don't know what classical arabic is nor what language Muhammed wrote, so please stop talking to me like you know. Always trying to steal our story.
Did you know Muhammed's parents were Hebrew? I thought not. What about that Muhammed went down into nubia before he wrote the Qur'an?
Again you don't know what you are talking about and don't realize there is a reason for these books and glyphs and it ain't for going to church or a mosque and hoping you go to heaven. This is science that you are not ready for and that is why we don't believe.
If you study genetics then you would know that geneticly the white male is the weakest person on the planet.
So this is not about who is right or wrong about this and that, it's about we know you and you are a liar and weak.
Originally posted by DeNaga
Please stop talking about the Hebrews(not jews) when you know nothing about them. Abram who became abraham was not a jew or a hebrew, or a hibiru, or a nibiru or a neb heru before he crossed the big river.
This is what those words mean. He brought the talmud or the torah.
He got it from the land of bab el and they got it from the Ptah-hites or kemites or egyptians.
Jews have been stealing Egyptian culture for years, and I hope they've enjoyed themselves because the party is over. We know you because we know your father, and we know his father.
please do not talk about things you know nothing about.edit on 28-7-2011 by DeNaga because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thePharaoh
you mean isreal and sinai ?? what an idiot.
the oldest evidence we have are located in a few places....dating pre dynasty....NAQQADA, NEKHEN AND ABYDOS...(in the north a place called BUTO)....
these places are ALL in upper egypt, dotted around aswan...nekhen and abydos are where the first pharaohs are from, they were known as thinnites and they put the capital in memphis,
now the levant ( and also places in sudan) where known as the red lands, pharaohs are depicted waring both the people from the levant and from the south.
thebes and karnack, the power houses of egypt are both in the south....NUBIAN LAND , the people known to archeologists as the mysterious A - GROUP.
to add, osiris wore the atef, the crown of upper egypt, the later pharaohs who controlled the levant ( ra, pharaohs from helipolis) wore the crown of lower egypt......you do the maths
nubians where always pharaohs...the darker black people you see where ethiopians/sudanese from the south, the reasons why nubians where called kuchite kings (kings of the 25 dynasty) is due to the divisions which happend duringth armana period....
the nubian language is not known to any scholar, its not written anywere, only spoken amongst the older generation
nubians came from the word "nubt", which means precious....maybe gold....the word pharaoh comes from the word per-aa....they where the parent stock of the pharaoh...the abydos league...scorpio, narama, aha .etc...egypts long history is complex
ptah, and amun.....upper egyptian....
Ra and Atum.....lower egyptian
what you have are earth and man cults from the south.....and sun worship in the north.....
the reasons why hebrews speak the late kingdom language is because the cult in helipolis, left egypt with the knowledge of the states libraries....the language came and was carried fby a covanent sect of egyptian priests,
the state was not one race...but the per aa...the great house....meant that the mother of the pharaoh (the womb that created him) HAD to be from upper egypt...the blood line related to osiris....ABYDOS.
kemet was a maitrachy
this all reminds me of the difference between DJEDFRE and KHAFRE.....khafres mother was upper egyptian, djedfre was not...khafre was favoured by the provinces of the nile
Originally posted by LUXUS
reply to post by thePharaoh
If you search for it you will find they did tests on the hair too, they found that the red colour was natural, was in the actual hair shaft and was produced naturally by the cells!
considering that the DNA testing found the highest mach with the Irish and Scots, many of whom have red hair that shouldent supprise you.
Now if you study ancient Irish text you will find that they actually say they went into Egypt, and now the dna testing backs this up with proof!
edit on 31-7-2011 by LUXUS because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by demongoat
uh no they weren't, or at least not the way you are trying to make it sound, this is just speculation at best.
Originally posted by De La Valletta
The hatred for the black race and it's rich history is astounding. To be honest it is a recent phenomenon if you consider 400 years recent. You see during the colonial period when africa was the source of slaves for american plantations the europeans had to dehumanise the black african , he was made a beast. What beast ever created a civilization , eh? Every trace of african civilization was destroyed or litterally whitewashed. This Dehumanisation was done to justify slavery and colonialism.
With that said , yes ,Khemet/Khamit , (the true name for aegypt) from the original heiroglyphic consonants(the khemti or khemetians as the egyptians called themselves didn't use vowels) KMT meaning Black Land , yes "Black Land". Aegyptus being the greek name the greeks called it. How silly that many of you here want to push a fallacy/fantasy on black people once more and you don't even know the civilizations' true name.Quite Revealing.
Khemet was created by black africans .The blacks Who founded the civilization of Khemet were nilotic/saharan , modern day sudanese and tuareg , (not the sudanese arabs) some of the blackest people on earth. Makes you wonder why that jihad in sudan went unnoticed but the ones in iraq , afghanistan , balkans , libya got america's military involved. Another civilization created by these nilotics was Kush or Nubia.
As time went on inter breeding with asiatics coming from babylon and syria and caucasians from greece and rome and europe as a whole may have created a lighter skin tone and caused some differences in hair. We must remember that aegypt was diluted many times , conquered by the Hyksos an asiatic peoples , in the 12th dynasty-1900 bc whom they ousted around 1550 bc , almost 400 years of foreign occupation. It was after having to repel a foreign invsion that Khemet created a powerful army one that was used to conquer syria. Then the Assyrians invaded in 667 bc they were repelled in 653 bc. The Persians invaded in 525 bc , led by Cambyses II.
The 5th century bc was marked by rebellion against persia and Nectanebo II a native khemetian breifly claimed the throne of khemet as the last native royal house of dynastic Khemet , but he was defeated in battle against a combined force of persians and greeks at the battle of Pelusium. He fled south and held power there for some time , his fate after that is unknown. Persian rule was restored for a short time until in 332 bc mazaces the persian ruler surrendered it to Alexander the great without a fight.The greek satrap Ptolemy Soter after Alexander's death became the pharoah and a caucasian dynasty began. Cleopatra Soter was the last of that greek dynasty then the Romans came.After the Romans who brought christianity and the destruction of native khematic religion;NETJER. After the Romans Came the Arabs and islam. So you see , by now you will find it hard to find a racialy pure Khemetian/egyptian but there still are and they are black nilo saharans.
As for the cry that well oh , that's the only civilization blacks had , there was Kush/Nubia mentioned earlierand Punt;which has never been clearly located or identified. Dongola and Ethiopia in the horn of africa and Numidia in North africa. These were khemet's contempory classical black civilizations in africa. There is also evidence of an unknown civilization in Nigeria called the Nok Civilization but extensive archeology has not been carried out this far.
The middle ages saw the rise of islam which spread quickly by the sword or taqiya (deception). Notable black civilizations which emerged were the Moorish Caliphate , Ghana-shamanistic , Mali-successor to ghana shamanistic/islamic , Kanem-Bornu-islamic , songhai-successor to mali and fully islamic , Ashanti-shamanistic/islamic and also Yoruba.
Ethiopia was still around , it outlived black AEgypt even up to today , it had converted to christianity but had a sizeable jewish population , thanks to the affair between the queen of sheba and king solomon. Being a christian country in a sea of islamic caliphates and sultanates was not easy and for the whole of the middle ages till now Ethiopia has had to contend with invasions and raids.Ethiopia was almost conquered in 1529-1543 by Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi or IL-Ghazi a Somalian. Had it not been for the belated intervention of the portuguese at the behest of Dawit II of Ethiopia appeling to their brothers in religion , Ethiopia may today be a fully islamic country.
Now some will say "You see they needed the white man to help them" but you need to know the full picture , the somalians were being backed by the ottoman empire. Until late in the war Ethiopia stood alone against the mighty ottomans and their proxy somalia.
At the onset of the war Ethiopia the muslim somalians aided by the then powerfull ottoman turks managed to defeat a larger ethiopian army but at a heavy cost. They then reverted to guerrila tactics until they could reform by which time the ottoman turks gave the jihadists guns and cannons which the ethiopians did not have nor were they exposed to before.
African civilizations that Flourished during colonial times were Congo , Great Zimbabwe , Kilwa and zulu.
Originally posted by LUXUS
The royal bloodline of Egypt was not black, DNA has shown that they wernt!
Originally posted by thePharaoh
i got a better question for you to answer
egypts dynastic period started in 3100 bc.....now:
SHOW ME EVIDENCE OF WHITE PEOPLE EXISTING ON EARTH AT 3100 BC....show me anything from europe from this date.....
1 Newgrange is one of the best examples in Ireland and in Western Europe, of a type of monument known to archaeologists as a passage-grave or passage-tomb.
2 It was constructed around 3200BC, according to the most reliable Carbon 14 dates available from archaeology. This makes it more than 600 years older than the Giza Pyramids in Egypt, and 1,000 years more ancient than Stonehenge.
Originally posted by 11azerus11
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
i don't remember when but i saw a nat geo that talked about egypt having a nubian pharoah... I dont remember the exact story but they said he came conquered became the pharoah and then left to rule from his own capital... i remember he built smaller and steeper pyramids... then he had successors rule for 3/4 of a centry from egypt, untill the were pushed back by the assyrians...
i think that there are always going to be whiners and haters... there's not even an issue... they have evidence... it's more like a few deny while a few make a big deal about the denial... egypt was ruled by a nubian pharoah during the 7th and 8th centry bc and here's a link to a galery of pics that support this... racism is just a distraction to divide us