Anders Behring Breivik, the Norway killer

The article was really interesting. I found it particulari interesting that he listened to hip hop , A music genre by the jews. Of corse, it's mostly very anti-white, but some just "challenge society", promote violent behaviour and murder, drug abuse and more. It's quite obvious he was living in a fantasy world.

But I doubt other templers exist. If they did, I most surely would have known.
Some groups targeting minorites exist in scandinavia. I constantly get letters where they want me to join their army.
But they are never pro jewish.

I'd argue with you about it but in the larger scheme it doesn't matter.

If they didn't exist before, they do now.

Here is translated letter i got.

Time for sabotage
Good targets in (my city)

Socialistic book-cafe (name) lies close to * at the (streetadress) next to a pub
On *-street by * lies (name) located next to a couple of arab stores. Always come after 12 o'clock when they close.
*-syndicalists are located at *
Focus on the nearby newspapers *, * and *
And the * office in *, by *. Also the mosque and charity organisations and the *
Crush windows, spray messags, put up posters, place bombs, flamable liquids, burning cross, burn down trees next to f.e the mosque, glue pig feet on strategic places

That's an interesting mailing list you're on there Sorg.

What do you suppose the purpose of those actions are?

What makes you think that he listened to "hip-hop?" He is pretty specific about having done so from 13-18. After that his tastes seem to have moved to electronica/house/dance/pop etc. and more recently he seems to have been migrating to orchestral.

Originally posted by Aeons
That's an interesting mailing list you're on there Sorg.

What do you suppose the purpose of that is?

I think they get the email adresses from certain social websites. I suppose, if the templars exist, they would use the same method to find people with similar opinions. Let's say someone has an anti-islam video on youtube, then they might just send a message to those and get them to join. Prefarably by using proxy, as i think recruiting people for terrorism is not legal in any country. THe purpose would be to gather groups of similar minded people.

Originally posted by Aeons
That's an interesting mailing list you're on there Sorg.

What do you suppose the purpose of those actions are?

What makes you think that he listened to "hip-hop?" He is pretty specific about having done so from 13-18. After that his tastes seem to have moved to electronica/house/dance/pop etc. and more recently he seems to have been migrating to orchestral.

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When he was younger, he did. And young people ge tinfluenced by music and such. You cannot deny much hip hop is very violent, and has been from, i think, the early 80's(?)

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Ah, I see. That's probably one way. Gaming. That's my "guess."

Originally posted by Sorgmodig

Originally posted by Aeons
That's an interesting mailing list you're on there Sorg.

What do you suppose the purpose of those actions are?

What makes you think that he listened to "hip-hop?" He is pretty specific about having done so from 13-18. After that his tastes seem to have moved to electronica/house/dance/pop etc. and more recently he seems to have been migrating to orchestral.

edit on 2011/11/27 by Aeons because: (no reason given)

When he was younger, he did. And young people ge tinfluenced by music and such. You cannot deny much hip hop is very violent, and has been from, i think, the early 80's(?)

And I used to listen to rap like 2LiveCrew, NWA and the Posse, or Gothica and death metal in that age group. (shrug) Or movie scores.

Hip hop is...goofy.

He absolutely uses music as an influence to create moods. Most of it being deeply emotional, and apparently he likes listening to women's voices.

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For this evenings installment, a Norwegian discussion on the effects of who is subjugating whom in the Left-Right spectrum with a focus on Anders Behring Breivik's actions having silenced debate. (which I'm sure he'd be thrilled if that was so.)

In this discussion, there is exactly one very good poster though many who sound good.

You will notice that there are no actual FACTS being discussed here. Just two sides trying to either race to the bottom, or character assassinate each other.

The one thing that I see that I find most interesting though is the "well if he was an Islamic Terrorist who would defend him?" Many people. The MSM would call him a militant probably. In numerous media the word "terrorist" would be washed off before print. If it got to the media at all. When it did, there would be a plethora of people who blamed the USA, the West, the military, the Imperialists, colonialism, etc. They would be painted as being misunderstood. Misled at best.

www.theglobeandmail.com... 3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2251384

In a Canadian political ad about gun control. Yes, someone in Canada used the same gun to kill women in a rampage Montreal. Marc Lepine / Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi. Lepine and Breivik may have a few things in common.

www.journalisten.no...

Lippestad emphasizes that the matter would not be talking about an interview with his client before Christmas.

Interviewing by police is ongoing, and Anders has turned down media interviews as he wants control of his own message.

While people are concerned that he will get a pulpit, I am not. It is far too late for that.

I hope that he chooses to keep his rhetoric focused and chooses to avoid discussion of the mechanics of the crime. He's got his pulpit, I hope he has the presence of mind to use it appropriately.

I suspect that he'll want to vet questions in advance, and wants what he says printed in full. No questions pulled for convenience. He'll want to see the copy before it goes to print. He'll still be concerned that he doesn't have a way to stop them from lying about it and doing what they want anyways.

And the BBC? Really? Ex-BBC Al-Jaz has a greater chance of getting an interview from him. They might actually put it all out.

Originally posted by Aeons
Still? Really?
... Some will assign predator signals to people who are just other potential victims. Some of the older people will have had military training and therefore would be acting based on their training. There were unarmed service people there who probably weren't acting like everyone else. Then there are the few people whose instincts are completely different than everyone else, and people's base brains will correctly identify these people as being potential predators or leaders...or both.

Oddly, you don't include the possibility of another shooter amongst your range of possibilities. You've obviously got an agenda to push.

Originally posted by Aeons
If the people who gave descriptions of other perps were correct, THEY'D BE DEAD.

And you know this how? Maybe they are dead. Maybe they escaped. Maybe they were protected by the police. Maybe they got on a boat on the far side of the island and motored away after the first 30 minutes or so.

It's very strange indeed. I belive this whole thing is a massive conspiracy. The strange thing is he did not target the immigrants! What was he thinking? I know what he was thinking... But it's so illogical... Little children do not have authority. He should have killed immigrants and real politicans. He should have burnt down mosques and the houses of traitors.
Why did he not kill MULLA KREKHAR?
That would be the most optimum. Noone in norway likes him.

Because if he killed Mulla Krekhar the Norwegian government would have to import another to replace him.

I have studied these mass shootings in detail and a clear motive is never apparent. Obviously hatred of multiculturalism had nothing to do with killing a bunch of nordic Norwegian kids. Just as killing a bunch of kids at Columbine had nothing to do with bullying. They are all government-run covert ops designed to change the socio/political landscape.

Hm. I think I should be comforted by the fact that you guys can't imagine this as what it is.

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What do you think you would get out of targetting immigrants? They are simply doing what is natural, which is flowing into a better area.

That's just human nature. That governments have chosen the path of reducing to a common denominator, instead of exporting what makes them great isn't an immigrants fault.

This is of course, why you guys are so useless anyways. Your World view is so very very limited.

Originally posted by Aeons
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What do you think you would get out of targetting immigrants? They are simply doing what is natural, which is flowing into a better area.

That's just human nature. That governments have chosen the path of reducing to a common denominator, instead of exporting what makes them great isn't an immigrants fault.

This is of course, why you guys are so useless anyways. Your World view is so very very limited.

The act of terrorism against unwanted elements in society might change the minds of politicans.
Also, I was just looking at it through the eyes of a extremist.

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Of course it wouldn't. This has literally never worked. Ever. Do Coptic Christians move? Are their still Ba'hai in Iran? Do Rom still wander?

Entire regimes have tried literally exterminating people they didn't like, and it hasn't worked. But does this stop this segment of the populace from doing this? No. Oatmeal for brains.

None of you know what you want, when you do you haven't the ability see squat. Its like talking to gorillas, with about the same goals as a gorilla band.

Originally posted by Aeons
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Of course it wouldn't. This has literally never worked. Ever. Do Coptic Christians move? Are their still Ba'hai in Iran? Do Rom still wander?

Entire regimes have tried literally exterminating people they didn't like, and it hasn't worked. But does this stop this segment of the populace from doing this? No. Oatmeal for brains.

None of you know what you want, when you do you haven't the ability see squat. Its like talking to gorillas, with about the same goals as a gorilla band.

It has worked. In fact, after the utöya massacre politicians actualy said that there INDEED was a problem with immigration, and frp is constantly gaining more support.
If i'm not misstaken even Jens stoltenberg admitted this.

I don't think I can possibly explain to you in all good conscience why your post drives me insane.


I don't support either.

My contention is that someone like Anders should not be radicalized. And that they clearly are radicalizing. I'm sure that there are underlying reasons that aren't political as to why, however he isn't the only one. That's not okay.

The people supporting multiculture need to support their contentions, and they aren't. In Europe they are using the Americas as examples, and doing so without full disclosure. Unless of course you ask the Natives how it was done and that the way it was established was by wiping the original population down to a small subset and marginalizing them. The rest of the foundation population of the multiculture wasn't multiculture - it was multi-ethnicity. There wasn't many people, and lots of space. I bet the natives wish now that they had insisted on some assimilation and limited numbers spaced out over time.



No news for today. Just run ups of various people talking about the psychiatrists report due tomorrow.

www.nordlys.no...

In this one the expert gives three diagnosis. Multiple personalities, sadistic, narcissism.

www.dagbladet.no...
More in Dagbladet about Delta Force. Still good. Outside my specific interest here, but just want to commend them finding an excellent spot to sit in relation to this event. I'd suggest diversifying off this so specifically over the next year, but finding reasons to continue to highlight this sort of work.

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The two experts have delivered their report and found Anders Behring Breivik to be criminally insane, and specifically a paranoid schizophrenic.

Trial will proceed as normal all the same. With this diagnosis accepted by the court, he can be locked up for life if they feel it necessary. Though theoretically he could be out in three. The court my reject the report.

www.vg.no...
www.aftenbladet.no...


Goes into his several "bizarre delusions."

He didn't write about this one, but I deduce it in an earlier thread. The white reserve.

The expert reviews and describes Breivik's thoughts about carrying out the breeding of Norwegians, and organize them in reserves.

And he feels chosen to save what he calls his people, says Holden. According to the report Behring Breivik have committed the heinous murders, or "executions" as he calls it, of love for what he describes as "his people".

Now politicians of Europe, I dare you to think about something.

You have a good sub-section of your population who would prefer to live with Anders Behring Breivik in his World, than they would want to live with Islamism, and under the World of the schizophrenia of Mohammed.

I suggest that you consider what this means about how deeply rooted their rejection is.



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There should now be some significant confusion created by the fact that Anders is so very thorough and organized for someone with paranoid schizophrenia, but experts will want to give the benefit of the doubt to their professional colleagues. I have no such compunctions. My suggestions stand. They have interviewed only Justicar Commander Breivik, and done so while he was still under the effects of the depersonalization/division being reinforced by anabolic steroids not fully out of his system. The questioning method is reinforcing it.

Knowing that they are going to start treating him using this diagnosis makes me queasy.