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Who holds America's debt?

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:19 PM
Found this blog on who actualy holds the US's debts.

From the site...

Percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:

Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

Anybody know if this is accurate or have any other numbers?

posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:41 PM
List of American debt holders from the U.S. Treasury

According to the U.S. Treasury, the 4.5 trillion for foreign holders is correct.

posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:53 PM
So it looks like if we default then lots of people go down with us. Guess they will all love us for that.

posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:54 PM
Notice that China is NOT the biggest holder that some people on here claim they are.

Biggest foreign holder but not the largest overall and it is only an 8% holding.

Can the countries that hold US debts not cash them in to help their own economies, the ones listered there that have finaincial debts of their own?
edit on 24-7-2011 by zookey because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:08 PM
reply to post by zookey

9,747,385,038,148.48 is the current amount of U.S. debt held by the public. 4,595,499,906,847.80 is the amount held by other governments. 14,342,884,944,996.28 is the grand total.

Treasury Direct


Debt Position and Activity Report
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 03:55 AM

I see $1.63 Trillion in debt reduction right off the top. Why does the US Treasury hold Federal debt?
This is akin to your wallet owing your piggy bank a few bucks it borrowed from your couch cushions. I would imagine that Congress could quickly and quietly make that go away in a manner which looks convincing "Oh, look... we just discovered an accounting error. The Pentagon has been storing $0.1 Trillion in a savings account for the past 16 years and we have decided to pay off the US Treasury with that money. What? You want to see the documentation showing this actually happened? Sorry, those are classified documents, but here's a receipt showing we are paid in full."

posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 07:26 PM
reply to post by burdman30ott6

That would be because that 1.6 trillion isnt actually held by the treasury; it is held by the Fed, for the treasury. "Honestly, folks thats not my money! No, no, no! It's your money, see? Im just holding it for you....yeah, thats it....."

posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 07:36 PM
The Fed holds more than 5 trillion dollars in debt, not something the MSM usually talks about because it is a perfect target on who to default on first.

And those are 2010 figures.

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