Circumcision campaign in Africa reduces HIV infections 76%, study finds, page 4

Originally posted by toolstarr
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

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You know damn well that breastfeeding is nature's way to feed a baby. Cutting the skin from around their penises is not natural. Apples to oranges dude. Your argument is null and void.

Cutting the umbilical cord is not natural either, we are supposed to chew it off like animals. We are not animals however and we have recognized that our bodies have things that we do not need to survive and in some cases can make life harder, like foreskin.

Originally posted by BIGPoJo

Originally posted by toolstarr
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

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You know damn well that breastfeeding is nature's way to feed a baby. Cutting the skin from around their penises is not natural. Apples to oranges dude. Your argument is null and void.

Cutting the umbilical cord is not natural either, we are supposed to chew it off like animals. We are not animals however and we have recognized that our bodies have things that we do not need to survive and in some cases can make life harder, like foreskin.

the umbilical cord is something that would dry up and fall off regardless. Animals chew it off and lick their offspring clean. The umbilical cord is not a good example here. The umbilical cord does not have any function for an adult, or nerve endings. We are talking about sex and sex organs here. Sex is very important to our lives, and we simply cut the foreskin off because the bible says we should? Why should we disfigure our children to prevent disease? If that kind of thought was extended to other body parts it wouldn't be allowed....especially lady parts.

reply to post by chasingbrahman

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Another reason to categorically reject Jesus: he wants infant boys to have their penises sliced open. SuperiorEd, you should call the big guy yourself and ask him if he needs a PR campaign. I think you'd do really, really great.

Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

When the law was the guardian of man, circumcision was vital for the health of all involved. These people did not bathe every day. They were nomadic herdsman living in a wilderness. There was not soap. The law was a guardian and symbolic of what they represented. Circumcision was the symbol for cutting away pride. For the people, circumcision protected the women from infection and the men from the disorders associated with the filthy desert conditions. This is an amazing reason to categorically embrace Jesus and Give Him the glory and honor.



Galatians 3

23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

reply to post by SuperiorEd

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Based on that, then we shouldn't allow Cesarian sections because cutting women in any way isn't biblical. This is a different day and age than when the bible was written. Please stop posting replies about biblical/religious ideals.

Originally posted by adraves
reply to post by SuperiorEd

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Based on that, then we shouldn't allow Cesarian sections because cutting women in any way isn't biblical. This is a different day and age than when the bible was written. Please stop posting replies about biblical/religious ideals.

You are looking to discredit the Bible and I get that. I am saying that cutting the female is not a biblical reference. You were previously referring to the Muslim faith. The Bible does not say to cut the female. I doubt the Bible references Cesarian in any way. It does condone doing what is good for a person's health.

Matthew 2:17

On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
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Percentage decrease in HIV infections among a group of 20,000 men over age 15 from Orange Farm Township in South Africa who were offered free circumcision procedures as part of an AIDS prevention campaign that brought the proportion of circumcised men in the community from 16% to 50%. Previous clinical trials have demonstrated the protective effect of circumcision against contracting HIV and other sexually transmitted infections...

Genesis 17

We often wonder why God specifies the things He does in the OT. In this case, the answer is clear. It was to increase their numbers and to provide a healthier environment for childbearing. Most likely, it was also for the health of the woman as well. Yeast infections account for an entire host of problems which are solved with circumcision.

2 Then I will make my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”

9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

what about the "dont eat tha poopoo" guy ? doesnt he get any credit for this one
nah , seriously though, in a way i suppose thats a good thing.

reply to post by SuperiorEd

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I am not trying to discredit or bash on the torah/new testament. I am trying to discredit the notion that we should follow everything written it those texts. Not everything written in those texts needs to be applied to modern life. I feel circumcision is one example of that.

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Only if you wash it.

Originally posted by King33
reply to post by OzWeatherman

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Only if you wash it.

Obviously... Duh

One could argue that teeth are bad for health, because people who have bad teeth or gum disease are more prone to heart problems and strokes, medical fact.

Should we not then advocate the removal of all teeth?

No, obviously not, because if you keep your teeth clean, you have less of a chance of developing any problems.

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