Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Some people may see this video as funny, if this is you i recommend you read my post and then watch the video again.
There are so many things i see wrong with this video. As i am writing this i hear the video playing in the background (but i can not see it) and i
feel worse about the video than when i first thought to write this thread.
This is a mother, her son Owen and the girl (Christina) is a family friend. I'm no expert on ages but i would say the children are between the ages
of four and six. The mother of the boy is filming (she is never shown) and at the 1:50 mark a male voice can be heard approaching and asking "Whats
the problem" (i can only assume this is the boys father) but he is never shown either.
People have the right to watch whatever they want and think whatever they want about it. People find many things amusing that I find disturbing -
look at TV: Family Guy etc
But even when I don't understand their humor, it is their right for it to differ from what I find funny.
Now as i said earlier i see multiple things wrong with this video so let's get right to it.
1) Why won't Owens mother stop this instead of filming? I spend a good amount of time online (when i can) and i watch a lot of videos and i've noticed
a trend. It seems as if in every video there are at least three other people standing around with their phones in their hands recording too. Fights,
accidents, arguments, Police incidents, EVERYTHING. With the invention of YouTube and other video websites and the advent of videos going "Viral"
peoples only course of action when something happens is to record it. Does anyone HELP anymore?
While I myself would not drag this out, who are we to judge her parenting. I can think of a simple reason she would let this continue: Because it is
just words that are distressing her son, and she may think he needs to learn not to let words effect him so much... A very valuble lesson that many in
this world failed to get taught and as a result react just like he did over words.
2) Why are these young children having this argument? As i stated earlier, i am no age expert but i'll put my money on these children being between
four and six years old. Granted they could have seen a MOVIE or seen a TELEVISION show (programming anyone?) where a princess got
married, the proper course of action (imho) would be to say: "Marriage is something grown-ups do when they are in love with each other and they want
to start a family", "After you finish school and you get big like mommy/daddy, if you fall in love you might get married too".
Why are these young children having this argument? Because they are kids!!!!
Kid's argue about anything and everything, you telling them not to think like kids is not going to change the way they think and act. They will blow
things out of proportion, let their games effect them emotionally.
Ask yourself if it is a parents job to protect their child 24/7 or train that child to survive in this world which is not always fair, where people
must learn not to let trivial things effect them and where they must learn to get along with others they do not always find logical/nice.
These children are having an all out screaming match. If they were twenty years older the police could very well have been called during this
argument. If they were twenty years older and having this EXACT same argument (word for word) in front of children their age and it was
recorded, that video could be grounds for those children being taken away.
People are aloud to yell in their own house, they are aloud to express emotion - we are human, as long as it does not disturb the public or threaten
anyone's safety you can yell all you like.
Again - they are children, in order to learn not to yell you must first learn it does not achieve your goal - this lesson is learnt with time when you
see you can not achieve your desired outcome by yelling.
3) Why is this woman training another persons young daughter that she needs to be married? Christina's parents are clearly not around. If you watch
the video no other person is looked at or spoken to until the 1:50 mark when the "alleged" husband of the woman/father of Owen comes to ask "whats the
problem". If you were watching a child of mine (daycare/school/babysitting) i would not want you teaching my child certain things (especially about
God, sex or marriage). People have varying opines and i would rather you consult me first.
The other persons young daughter has brought up marrige from what I see (not unusual for young girls). I see the woman is simply asking her son why he
does not want to get married. I believe this is to teach him to retionalise his thoughts and offer valid reasons for why he feels the way he feels - A
trait I see lacking on ATS often.
She has not dismissed his opinion - she is just asking why do you feel that way - this could be seen as a good mother checking her son has no
psycological underlying issues with marrige that could effect him later in life (After all he seems reall upset)
The very first words in the video are of distraught young Owen asking his mother "mom, why did you tell her that" leading me to believe that this
whole conversation was at the suggestion of the mother. Little Christina then hides behind the cabinet and smiles as the camera woman asks if she
wants to marry little Owen, when Christina say yes the mother/camerawoman tells her to tell Owen.
Speculation, do we really think we are without any faults and have the right or ability watch a glimpse of someone elses life that is a couple of
minutes long and make a judgement on what that person should or should not be doing to better raise their children.
4) Are women trained to act a certain way since birth? We see how this grown woman is promoting this whole situation.
A) You can hear her laughing
B)When the (alleged) husband inquires she replies "i had to"
C) SHE IS FILMING INSTEAD OF INTERVENING
Notice how determined little Christina is to get married at such a young age. I highly doubt she even understands what marriage is!! All Christina
knows is it is something she is "supposed" to do. She is also being trained (at such a young age) that boy don't want to get married so she has to
force or trick them into it. Notice at the 1:11 mark Christina says "When you ask for some candy at my house i'm gonna say NO!". I actually gasped out
loud at that part, she will only give him "candy" if he marries her
Notice how Christina is acting during this argument. She is constantly cleaning, wiping off Owens seat and even sweeping the floor!! She is constantly
demanding Owen "look at me" while she is talking and smiling and laughing with her "girlfriend" while she tortures the boy.
Again as above very judgemental of someone you don't know in a situation we don't really know and can only speculate about. Perhaps the Mother should
have stayed out of it more, but thats not for us to judge and we also need to realise parents are not perfect either, no parent is.
They are aloud to make mistakes the goal is to balance out the good with the bad enough to produce a child that can survive this world and live in
this society without difficulty.
5) Are men the same since birth? Maybe i'm biased because i'm a man All little owen want to do is be friends with Christina and eat some of her
candy. He doesn't want to get married. When he gets mad at Christina he doesn't want anything to do with her (let alone get married to her). His first
reaction is to turn/run away from her. When little Owen gets older and his hormones get to work will he "give in" to Christinas demands? When the
(alleged) husband (quietly) asks "whats the problem" i sense that he made eye contact with his wife and most likely did the hand sign "WHY" at which
she laughs and responds "i had to". You never hear from him again. Is it possible he decided to just shut up and give in because he wants some "candy"
I think you are revealing more about issues of your own with societies take on marrige than you are about the video itself.
In life sometimes we need to learn to bite our tongue, some people may see this as bribary.. but this happens throughout our world all the time.
Conform to the system the system rewards you, fight the system and you get nowhere - it doesnt mean it is fair but that is how it works.
Owen can still be friends with Christina - they will forget about this argument in 20 mins and continue playing together as if it never happend, only
their subconscious will take away lessons learnt in what works and what doesnt when it comes to confrontation.
edit on 23-7-2011 by byteshertz
because: (no reason given)