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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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The Perfect Timing of Anders Behring Breivik

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I hope everyone has had a chance to look at this member's thread.

Please do, if you have not.



Here is the OP quoted from the thread:





Again, without even needing to claim that this attack was a false-flag inside job of any sort, or that any conspiracy lies behind it, we are already seeing the mainstream media using it to vilify the following:

• Gun owners • Fundamentalist Christians

• ‘Right-wing’, conservative and nationalist views

• Opponents of Cultural Marxism



I mean, c'mon guys; we don't even need to strain really hard to see that this is, indeed, SOP.
edit on 25-7-2011 by Frater210 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Oh no doubt. But i think the fact it took 11 years since all this started to this only leads me to suspect that people in power have some warped sense of morality that if they don't actually do it themselves, but allow it to happen, then somehow they are not guilty. pff.

I haven't really been watching the news though because I don't care for the poo throwing that's going on right now. What I do see is that this has nothing to do with Israel, and nothing to do with Libya, as many have said here. It has to do with internal affairs alone.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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What I do see is that this has nothing to do with Israel, and nothing to do with Libya, as many have said here. It has to do with internal affairs alone.


I know, Gorman91. I just don't agree with you.

Thanks for being here to help us all rivet down what we think we know.




posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Again, without even needing to claim that this attack was a false-flag inside job of any sort, or that any conspiracy lies behind it, we are already seeing the mainstream media using it to vilify the following:

• Gun owners • Fundamentalist Christians

• ‘Right-wing’, conservative and nationalist views

• Opponents of Cultural Marxism



I circle back round, time and time again, to the notion that fostering divisiveness is the foremost goal of those exploiting these events (for even if they are orchestrated, the social ramifications for the rest of us remain the same).

Take a look back at this thread.

Is the charged, close-ended debate (which can never be sufficiently resolved in an info vacuum) the whole point? What purposes are served by keeping us at eachother's throats?

The only peice of evidence presented so far that really, really bothers me is the word-for-word similarity between the Una-Bomber manifesto and the Breivik document. It implies that there is a set script of some sort. And a continuity in methodology that extends back over decades.

Which makes this a whole lot bigger than blaming mere nations, or even factions within a ruling body, I think.
edit on 25-7-2011 by mistermonculous because: Mmph.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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I circle back round, time and time again, to the notion that fostering divisiveness is the foremost goal of those exploiting these events (for even if they are orchestrated, the social ramifications for the rest of us remain the same).


Seriously. That's it in a tiny nutshell.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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But it's not working. They're using divisive techniques from the last century that simply do not work in the modern era. All this attack will cause will be defiance within against the world, not defiance within against within. Causing less likelihood of global unity.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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consider this bubble burst

what we have is old fashioned, nazi era hate and xenophobia. those norwegians seem to be pretty darn sensible, seeing as step one was to deny this coward what he craved most, an audience. kudos to the norwegians. if this was the US or UK, he's have a 90 minute pressc onference and his own TV deal. I don't think we're going to see a DHS or really anything come out of this senseless tragedy.




- Anders Behring Breivik told a Norwegian judge on Monday his bombing and shooting rampage that killed scores aimed to save Europe from a Muslim takeover, and said that "two more cells" existed in his organisation.

Breivik's remarks at the closed-door custody hearing were relayed by the judge, Kim Heger, at a news conference.

The killer has previously said he acted alone and police had earlier said they were trying to confirm this.

But after Breivik's claim about other cells, police attorney Christian Hatlo said "we cannot completely rule out" the possibility that others were involved in Friday's attacks.

Police revised the death toll downwards to 76 from 93, saying eight people were now known to have died in the bomb blast in central Oslo, and 68 on the island of Utoeya.

It was not clear whether Breivik is in fact part of an organisation, although he has written about a revival of the Knights Templar, a medieval order of crusading monks.

After the hearing, Heger said he had ordered Breivik detained in solitary confinement for eight weeks, with no letters, newspapers or visits, except from a lawyer.

The detention, in line with a request from prosecutors, will allow them to investigate the case against Breivik.

Jeering crowds awaited Breivik at Oslo District Court.

"Everyone here wants him dead," Roeine said, adding that he knew one of the dead and three survivors of the attacks.

Breivik had wanted to explain in public why he perpetrated modern-day Norway's worst peace-time massacre. He was denied a public platform, but the judge, in his news conference, gave an account of what the accused 32-year-old had said.

Breivik says attack meant to deter Labor Party recruitment

Heger said Breivik had accused the ruling Labour Party of betraying Norway with "mass imports of Muslims".

He said his bombing of government buildings in Oslo and massacre at a summer camp for Labour's youth wing was aimed at deterring future recruitment to the party.

"The goal of the attack was to give a strong signal to the people," the judge quoted Breivik as saying.

Breivik's custody can be extended before his trial on terrorism charges. Police say the trial could be a year away.

After the hearing, a police jeep drove away carrying an unshaven Breivik, with close-cropped blond hair and wearing a red jumper with a lighter red shirt underneath.

Breivik planted a bomb on Friday outside Stoltenberg's Oslo office which killed eight, then drove to the wooded island of Utoeya and shot dead 68 at the Labour Party youth camp.

In a rambling 1,500-page tract posted online just before the massacre, Breivik explained how violence was needed to rescue Europe from Islam, immigration and multi-culturalism.


If he survived his assault and was arrested, this would "mark the initiation of the propaganda phase", he wrote.

The judge's decision to close the hearing to the public followed an outcry from Norwegians enraged at the possibility that Breivik would be allowed a public platform for his views.

The maximum jail term in Norway is 21 years, although that can be extended if there is a risk of repeat offences. "In theory he can be in jail for the rest of his life," said Staale Eskeland, professor of criminal law at the University of Oslo. .
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Hey, Gorman91.

Considering all of the things that have been written and posted on this thread this is also true.




All this attack will cause will be defiance within against the world, not defiance within against within. Causing less likelihood of global unity.


I agree.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
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That's nice. You showed people displaying their personal opinions of people. Did you know Obama and the US gave quite a welcome to a mass murdering oppressive dictator? It was the leader of China, earlier this year.


Yes, Stars and Stripes dotted Pennsylvania Avenue alongside Five Starred Blood Red Communist flags.

Freedom and Fascism don't ideologically mix...




posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Nothing like Nazism despite the media tainting the killer with such rhetoric. It's inexcusable what this man has done but this has nothing to do with Jews or a master race.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Remember the Polish airline crash where most of their big wigs in Govt died? I do.

I still think it's highly possible they were shot down by the globalists due to their anti-globalist policies.

The more I learn about this Norway event the more it appears along the same lines actually, and so I have to say there is a high probability this is a false flag.

The real flag of the terrorists could easily be the globalists. They have the resources, and they control the mainstream media (Which has been saying "Al Qaeda" and "Muslims" and "Mosque" consistently throughout the entire ordeal.

Even if there is no Muslim involvement at all it doesn't matter now. The MSM has ingrained it in everyone's head to expect Muslim extremism as the cause of all terrorist attacks.


People need to wake up. The real terrorists are the globalists and internetional private investment cartels.

Hi George Soros,David Rockefeller,Zbig and Dick Chaney



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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How many people have died (excluding 9/11) because of a terrorist attack (anywhere outside the middle Eastern countries that have been invaded)? More people die from accidents in their own home.

Look, we all know we don't live in a bubble. Shxx happens! Aberrant human behavior like this causes crime. Insurance companies make lots of money by covering bets on mortality. How many people have died from other causes like starvation, disease, transportation accidents, etc.? If you were the President or PM of a country, what would be the most practical efficient way to spend BILLIONS to save human lives? What individual responsibility do people have to protect themselves from a threat?

The expansion of government control to take away your freedom in order to protect you from a low probability threat is not acceptable IMHO. That is why the false flag threats have to continue. People seem to feel more reassured if their fear factor and personal freedom is reduced through government action. There are NO guarantees!

What would be the fatality count if all those people on the island rushed the guy before he could reload? People have to take their own action when they can instead of relying on the government to solve the problem.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Thats absolutely terrible that these people would lose their lives.
over something like that and the agenda....



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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Who's saying the Muslim's did it?!? They captured the guy....he's a Christian Nutjob who did it because he hates Muslims. (ironic eh?.....he hates Muslim's so he emulates the tactics of Al Qaeda)


Muslims or Islam,whatever,i dont care for stupid religion.

Havnt you heard? apparently al CIAda is claiming responsibility for the bombings.



The New York Times reports that Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, has claimed responsibility, saying it was revenge for Norway’s involvement in Afghanistan and insults to Islam.




Several other al Qaeda-linked jihadists have also claimed credit for the attacks. “Norway was targeted today to be a lesson and an example to the other countries of Europe,”


blog.american.com...

I had a feeling al CIAda would have something to say about this Norway incident.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Someone mentioned "MK Ultra or Monarch programming ..." This definitely is my feeling on the matter.

But I also agree with this:


Originally posted by Gorman91
I don't think you realize just how silly it is to think Israel has any power what so ever when they're entire existence is based purely on US funding and tourism, and when we pretty much whip them like the slave state they are and tell them to get in line with US strategy. Israel wants to attack Iran? Not unless the US says so. Israel is by all accords the perfect example of "sh*t flows downhill". We smack them in the face when they don't listen to us, their government slaps their generals in the face, their generals slap their soldiers in the face, and the soldiers slap the face of Palestinians.


In my opinion, this was definitely a full-on mind control job, and the first obvious agenda is tighter gun control, more fearmongering. Beyond the scope of that ... the worldwide agenda is not knowable, I think. I mean, there's a lot of guessing and conjecture. There's some interesting theories on this thread. But what I've posted is how I'm leaning in my opinion, at the moment.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Frater210

You would think these guys would break up the pattern a little bit; but no. Once again we have the Police practicing for the event beforehand and we even have men in black uniforms casing the joint before the event took place.



It looks like they believe in the effect of the repeatable compounding school. Makes it easier to pin the tail on the......whatever. Also has the effect of making repeatable MOs that much easier to use and work with for the heard mentality. Acts that look original with individual flare are harder to use for propaganda reasons. Thats why we here the same old mantras....over and over again.....self reinforcing.

Also, just when it looks like some real popular discontent is brewing about problems with these large muslim populations......we have a nut job go off.....puts a dark side on the discontent. anyone protesting now will be fair game to be called a potential nut job racist shooter. So they pull a false falg....control the guy, the situation, the outcome and the press.

We know that any real nut job with muslim discontent would probably strike at some muslim site or situation. This current blow makes it look like he was attacking resonable people that were pulling for muslims. So....two birds with one stone. The "real face' of muslim discontent directed at his own countrymen. The PTB getting in the first blow so they can control things from here on out. The same way they tried to use, and still do, Oklahoma to control and water down any real patriot movement in the US.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by mistermonculous



Again, without even needing to claim that this attack was a false-flag inside job of any sort, or that any conspiracy lies behind it, we are already seeing the mainstream media using it to vilify the following:

• Gun owners • Fundamentalist Christians

• ‘Right-wing’, conservative and nationalist views

• Opponents of Cultural Marxism



I circle back round, time and time again, to the notion that fostering divisiveness is the foremost goal of those exploiting these events (for even if they are orchestrated, the social ramifications for the rest of us remain the same).



Yes and to make the thing work they MUST divide the nation and this guy puts an ugly face on anyone that strongly opposes a large muslim influx.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock

Yes and to make the thing work they MUST divide the nation and this guy puts an ugly face on anyone that strongly opposes a large muslim influx.


That's true. But conversely, he's also a goodlooking guy (part of the reason he was chosen for programming, I believe,) and his "manifesto" (which is so conveniently readily available,) simply reeks of trying to attract sympathizers. He's an icon for those with similar opinions. Hence, everyone is divided, and all sides are "controlled", so to speak.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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No way that many people could have been killed by one individual. "Second suspect" is really the smoking gun here and is why we should view this case with skepticism.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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This manifesto probably makes some good points and attractive to nationalistic minded people. So now even those ideas will be seen as terror in embryo. Any good point this guy made is now taken into the dark maddness with him. He is now coined as the exemplar, the ultimate logical conclusion to muslim resistance and lefty resistance. Not unlike the Nazi final solution which in some quarters is the suspected motive of anyone that even mumbles discontent for the jews. In the US for decades now even noteworthy criticism of blacks has been defended against by charges of racisim and this made easy by promoting the idea that racisim is fundemental to the white mans nature. Thus what we have had here in this country is the lack of any real dialogue on race relations but rather a relenting by white to injustice rather than suffer the foul smell of being called a racist. Now do to this recent event in Norway, all things considered, a cloud is now produced over anything critical of muslims or of the "fifth column" that advocates for them. So there will be no real dialogue about any threat muslims may pose to anything.....if anything really exist wont even be entertain with out suspicion of being anti-muslim and ultra nationalistic, racist, ect and now with these late events, to the nth degree!



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