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Norway Didn't Want To Play So The New World Order Made Them Pay. 5 Reasons Why Norway Looks Like A

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by shaneR
reply to post by wcitizen
 


hi wcitizen,
+ thanks for that..

i agree with what U + Muzzleflash were referring to...


and i remember the "Port Arthur Massacre", here in Australia...
(lone gunman, kills 35, result = new gun laws etc etc AND strengthened "order")

see: en.wikipedia.org...(Australia)


The Port Arthur massacre of 28 April 1996
was a killing spree which claimed the lives
of 35 people and wounded 21 others mainly
at the historic Port Arthur prison colony,
a popular tourist site in south-eastern Tasmania,
Australia. Martin Bryant, a 28-year-old
from New Town, a suburb of Hobart,
eventually pleaded guilty to the crimes
and was given 35 life sentences.


Still plenty of people that believe he was "set-up"....
and of course these are not really isolated cases.

anyway, i all looks quite similar to me...AGAIN...
TPTB doing what they have to, to retain power etc.

seeya


Yes - it looks like the same old MO...and I agree, they're not isolated events.




posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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reply to post by loves a conspiricy
 

"Funny" how?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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FAKE

The OP is wrong, go read the attackers' manifesto, plus the first argument about a police bomb drill before the attack is false, it actually happened a year before. It's just a miss translation from a Norwegian website.

You guys should really see his manifesto and video that was posted just before the attacks.

He wrote in detail what he did each day prior to the attack. How he made the bomb, how he acquired the guns. Everything is there, this man acted alone and has been preparing for this for a few years. His last entry was a few hours before the attack, all was planed. There is no grand conspiracy here guys.

Everything makes sense if you read that.

There is no grand conspiracy here, this was his own work, he had his own motivation, etc.

What I can't understand is what pushed him so far to do it, he was a rich, well educated person that did not seem to have any serious problems except hate towards immigrants that are "destroying" his country and Europe. He is against the Islmification of Europe and there is a real possibility that in 50 years from now Europe will become a major Islamic centre.

And to be perfectly honest when I took a plane to Norway I was surprised by the number of immigrants with Norwegian passports. They were mostly Muslims/Arabs. One of them I think had 7 young children. I was amazed. Now I have nothing against immigrants or people but I can see where this hate can come from.

If a nation of tall blond people is flooded with such immigrants you can be sure to expect some resistance, even more when due to natality rates the native population is bound to become a minority soon. Norway has only 4 mil people. It does not take long to notice the effect of migration.

He chose to attack Norwegian people (they were political targets/affiliated to the current government) because he blames the current government of embracing the multiculturalism idea, letting immigrants enter the country.

There is nothing to excuse his acts, but one has to see the source of such evil. He provided all this in his manifesto. Get yourself informed and stop going crazy about world conspiracies. It was a solo act, although it might serve some global interests, but this is totally unrelated IMO.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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So you are trying to tell that a single guy, with no millitary trainning, member of Freemasons, acted alone?
Because of he's hate towards muslims, he go'es out and shoouts 90+ that are young and don't have any voice in politics, they maybe will in a future but not for know?

I read he's manifesto, and a lot of people did only because of he's act. You don't think that he's manifest was written to enlarge hate towards muslims, even more then it is? Well guessing on your comments i can see it worked on you. Now peoples view on muslims will change: From (victims of war that fled hunger and prosecutions) To (evil dominating muslims that trying to take over the europe)

It's allready working, and people would belive even more when media says that he was completely normal not sick person, had a good job and good life. If that sort of person does somthink like that he must be writh, would some idiots think. For me it's looks like succeded massonic work.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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the killing of innocents was just the catalyst for his manifesto to be disseminated.

Now, how many will read his doctrine?

How many will believe it?

How many will embrace it?

...wasn't the prophet Elijah Mohammed a free mason? There is a thread here----->www.abovetopsecret.com...

on it, only one flag, only 1 pages. Is it not interesting to find the him a free mason?

His mission, in my opinion, wasn't to retaliate against the Norwegian government, but to gain a world-wide audience to disseminate his manifesto, and indoctrinate future "Knights."

looks like mission accomplished, no matter if he is nuts, psychopathic, ill-intentioned, or just a radical doing something radical to seek an audience of followers. I haven't finished reading the manifesto, just watched the liveleak video.

Please don't interpret anything I posted to be callous, I am just curious in understanding, and will read more. Killing is bad, and it's normal for a global outrage, but why isn't there a daily global outrage at the world wide atrocities being committed by various military organizations around the world. Media is why.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Devil's advocate: Is it at all possible that these things are planned by the perpetrators at exactly the time it would be confusing precisely because of planned exercises? Of course that would imply a high level of access to information, which, I guess, makes the whole thing come full circle to a conspiracy.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Is Operation Gladio still in effect?


Operation Gladio (Italian: Organizzazione Gladio) is the codename for a clandestine NATO "stay-behind" operation in Italy after World War II. Its purpose was to continue anti-communist actions in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion of Western Europe. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organizations, "Operation Gladio" is used as an informal name for all stay-behind organizations, sometimes called "Super NATO". The name Gladio is the Italian form of gladius, a type of Roman shortsword.



The role of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in sponsoring Gladio and the extent of its activities during the Cold War era, and its relationship to right-wing terrorist attacks perpetrated in Italy during the "Years of Lead" (late 1960s to early 1980s) and other similar clandestine operations is the subject of ongoing debate and investigation. Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have had parliamentary inquiries into the matter.



Sweden
In 1951, CIA agent William Colby, based at the CIA station in Stockholm, supported the training of stay-behind armies in neutral Sweden and Finland and in the NATO members Norway and Denmark. In 1953, the police arrested right winger Otto Hallberg and discovered the preparations for the Swedish stay-behind army. Hallberg was set free and charges against him were dropped.



Norway
In 1957, the director of the secret service NIS, Vilhelm Evang, protested strongly against the pro-active intelligence activities at AFNORTH, as described by the chairman of CPC: "[NIS] was extremely worried about activities carried out by officers at Kolsås. This concerned SB, Psywar and Counter Intelligence." These activities supposedly included the blacklisting of Norwegians. SHAPE denied these allegations. Eventually, the matter was resolved in 1958, after Norway was assured about how stay-behind networks were to be operated.

In 1978, the police discovered an arms cache and radio equipment at a mountain cabin and arrested Hans Otto Meyer, a businessman accused of being involved in selling illegal alcohol. Meyer claimed that the weapons were supplied by Norwegian intelligence. Rolf Hansen, defense minister at that time, stated the network was not in any way answerable to NATO and had no CIA connection



The DSSA, another Gladio?
In July 2005, the Italian press revealed the existence of the Department of Anti-terrorism Strategic Studies (DSSA), a "parallel police" created by Gaetano Saya and Riccardo Sindoca, two leaders of the National Union of the Police Forces (UNPF), a trade-union present in all the state security forces. Both said they were former members of Gladio. According to the DSSA website — closed after these revelations — Fabrizio Quattrocchi, murdered in Iraq after being taken hostage, was there "for the DSSA". According to the Italian investigators, the DSSA was trying to obtain international and national recognition by intelligence agencies, in order to obtain finances for its parallel activities. Furthermore, Il Messaggero, quoted by The Independent, declared that, according to judicial sources, wiretaps suggested DSSA members had been planning to kidnap Cesare Battisti, a former communist activist. "We were seeing the genesis of something similar to the death squads in Argentina" (the AAA groups) the magistrate is reported to have said.


Bombings & Massacres



1969 Piazza Fontana bombing

1972 Peteano massacre

1974 Piazza della Loggia bombing, Italicus Express massacre, and arrest of Vito Miceli, chief of the Army intelligence service and member of P2, on charges of "conspiracy against the state"

1980 Bologna massacre



en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Wait wait, hold the phone,

this guys manifesto was plagiarized, portions of it ?

I haven't read it BTW,


From Una-bomb's Manifesto:

One of the most Wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

But what is leftism? Hum the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically Identified with Socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a leftist.

When we speak of leftist in this article we garden in mind Mainly Socialists, Collectivist, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists and the like. But not everyone Who is associate with one of These movements is a leftist.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types. THUS, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more Clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology

from Anders Behring Breivik's Manifesto:

One of the most wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is Multiculturalism, so a discussion of the psychology of multiculturalists Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of Western Europe in general.

But what is Multiculturalism or Cultural Communism? The movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a cultural Marxist.

When we speak of cultural Marxists in this article we garden in mind Mainly Individuals WHO support Multiculturalism; Socialists, Collectivist, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists, Environmentalist, etc. But not everyone Who is associate with One of These movements support Multiculturalism.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing cultural Marxists is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types

- this is very interesting, says violence researcher Ragnhild Bjørnebekk the Police Academy.


www.document.no...


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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Sure, it could be a massive conspiracy led by a secret, unverified mega-shadow government who wished to punish Norway.

Or it could be the far far far far more likely scenario, that some people are crazy, and sometimes crazy people kill others.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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I have yet to see a single major disaster/tragedy headline occur in the world in the last few years that someone on ATS hasn't claimed is a conspiracy. Not a single one. Earthquake? Conspiracy. Murder? Conspiracy. Bombing? Conspiracy. Scandal? Conspiracy. Hurricane? Conspiracy. Crater on mars? Conspiracy. Plane crash? Conspiracy. Comet? Conspiracy. Virus? Conspiracy. Apparently normal events/disasters/murders NEVER happen in this world, everything that happens has some secretive evil government group or aliens behind it.

No matter what happens you sad bastards will claim its some conspiracy based on speculation and hocus pocus. As Pericle and others pointed out, this clearly was nothing but a delusional extremist, he clearly planned this for a long time and wrote in detail about his plans.

What a sad, desperate community this has become when every-single-tragedy has to be a conspiracy for your entertainment.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by TheUniverse
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Then on Yahoo Answers someone posted a Question "Were Zionists Extremists behind the Oslo/Norway Attacks on the day of the event. The Question was Deleted immediately." I never got to see the whole question




Google This:norway support palestine july 20th


And it Comes up as the Second Result Yahoo Removed it very quickly because it wasn't even up a few hours after the attack.



If you click on the 'cached' version in google the original piece shows up.

dunno if this link will work but try it

yea it looks like it was pulled for being an anti semetic question


kinda lets you see who control yahoo

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Sounds more similar to the oklahoma federal building story with 911 elements.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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It could be though I would trust in nothing anybody says or putts out especially since data can be made up and planed up ahead of time and most times its just pulled out of thin air as it suits them. Trust no one and nothing you hear is a good thing to go on.

I didn't keep track of this whole thing, just watched some clips on the news when they got wind of it, and some sites about the Norwegian dude who is supposed to have done all of it. But other then that nothing concrete, but ya usually in when such things happen then nothing can be trusted as being right. It does seem like propaganda and playing the guessing game everywhere.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Who's saying the Muslim's did it?!? They captured the guy....he's a Christian Nutjob who did it because he hates Muslims. (ironic eh?.....he hates Muslim's so he emulates the tactics of Al Qaeda)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Bravo to you sir.....well said.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Norway didnt Take notice and they paid the price , its a damm shame England dosent feel the same way , or they do but keepin it quite untill jugdement day labour and left wingers suck this ONCE GREAT COUNTRY not anymore SUCKS and the tory goverment in power today are just the same has the other tossers who once were in power , no matter who comes to power in England they wont do any good they are in it for there own gains and thats the bloody truth , i wish there was a 3rd world war and I can tell you this the dirty little smelly rats will hide
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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You guys should really see his manifesto and video that was posted just before the attacks. He wrote in detail what he did each day prior to the attack. How he made the bomb, how he acquired the guns. Everything is there, this man acted alone and has been preparing for this for a few years. His last entry was a few hours before the attack, all was planed. There is no grand conspiracy here guys.


And were is this manifesto and vid for those of us to lazy to search or don't have the time to do that? Any links.



There is no grand conspiracy here, this was his own work, he had his own motivation, etc.


Maybe... maybe not, all info and data can be made up even way ahead of time, in fact it usually is.




What I can't understand is what pushed him so far to do it, he was a rich, well educated person that did not seem to have any serious problems except hate towards immigrants that are "destroying" his country and Europe. He is against the Islmification of Europe and there is a real possibility that in 50 years from now Europe will become a major Islamic centre.


Um ok but if he was against the islamification of Europe then like Tib50 said on page 2 then why shoot up a bunch blonde blue eyed not Islamist people? It makes no sense. Even with the whole supposed targeting of politicians it still makes no sense.




He provided all this in his manifesto. Get yourself informed and stop going crazy about world conspiracies. It was a solo act, although it might serve some global interests, but this is totally unrelated IMO.

So what? You saying this is going to be a let no tragedy go to waste by the global interests. One thing usually leads into another, and most times they are related even if not directly. I would like to see this handbook on what we are supposed to know about this guy. Link please.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Why do People do these kinds of acts , its because they are P I S S E D O F F with the beings not humans that are running the show on this world , get it into your thick skulls they are in it for them selves , and they dont like people all around the world butting in they have alot to hide T o s s ers



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Oh for crying out loud, there was no powerful group of people responsible for the Norway bombing/shooting. It was a crazed individual who had racist and ill-minded ideologies who unleashed his unjustified anger by killing many innocent people.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Your points make sense and it is an interesting view on this event. I think the Muslim behind every bomb thing is now becoming an excuse instead of the authorities looking into things properly. I was unaware of the direction Norway was going.



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