Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Illustronic
Comets do not have a magnetosphere of their own. They have an induced magnetosphere. It is caused by the interaction of the ionized volatile gases interacting with the solar wind.
Originally posted by Logman
Wow, even people on GLP are fully behind the debunking of Elenintards. And those guys are insane.....
Allow me to debunk this worthless thread.
Firstly, the Endgames article:
endgametime.wordpress.com...
Even though the planets match up Elenin’s orbit clearly does not match at all. Also the comet is in between the asteroid belt and Mars. The the diagram does not match the time or comet. If you put Elenein in that position the date would be over a month ago and the planets don’t line up, and the orbit path is wrong anyhow.
Open your eyes, people. This comet is nothing. And that infrared picture taken in 2007 is of a carbon star called CW Leonis. Once identified of course doomtards said “OMG Elenin is a super-massive carbon star headed towards us!”. No, it’s still there, in the same position, 4 years later.
The Electric Universe theory comes from James McCanney.
www.jmccanneyscience.com...
Even he is denying that Elenin fits into his Electric Universe model:
Comet Elenin IS NOT A THREAT to earth ... my name and work regarding the electrical nature of comets and the solar system are being hijacked by a government backed misinformation crew making all kinds of wild claims about Comet Elenin ... these postings are on web pages and blogs and many professionally made youtube videos disguised as coming from "average people" like you and me ... many times claiming to have resources to un-named "professional astronomers" who "verify" their baloney stories ... some claim that they talk to aliens who "confirm McCanney's work" along with completely distorted ramblings ... some claim Comet Elenin will cause all sorts of disaster with time lines and dates with some claiming you should move to certain "safe sites" on a given timeline ... these sites and people we have found are all coming from the same place ... let me make it perfectly clear that Comet Elenin is a small comet that will likely not be even seen by most people since it is so small and far away ....
Sheesh, think I give up on ATS.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Illustronic
As I said, it is the solar wind that drives the phenomenon; for most of their orbit, most comets are devoid of a measurable ionic cloud and, hence, magnetic field.
For further reading.
thanks for this link, i enjoy this topic and appreciate information (from whichever side of the argument) as enriching.
however i do think you have been a little disingenuous if you are basing your vehement opposition to the OP on this article:
The plasma flow downstream of the bow shock in the magnetosheath (or “cometosheath”) region gradually slows down and contains some features, such as the 'mystery' boundary which remain poorly understood
'poorly understood'.
in their closing words,they expect that the deep impact mission (temple 1) will support the theory they propose in this paper, however, as we can see from the vid in the OP, that has not proven to be the case.
The Oxford English Dictionary says that scientific method is: "a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses
the scientific method is an ongoing process; so to use a paper written in 2003 as empirical proof of your own theory when much more new data is now available, is frankly astonishing.
a (very) cursory search for more recent material by the authors of this paper has proved fruitless, i would have thought if their theory had been proven there would be more.
this is a fascinating subject, for myself the electric universe would make much more sense.
thanks for the info OP.
Hi say "PROOF Is Here "
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Dalke07
The guy in that video didn't even have the courtesy to turn off the radio while he was making it. He didn't bother to have the other photographs available to compare the background stars. It is very difficult to respect him if he doesn't respect his audience. Why not post links to the actual photographs? I believe the photo he is "analyzing" comes from here:
sydneystargazers.com...
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
I have another flaw to point out in this theory. The claim is that Elenin's periodicity is the reason that it is "causing" earthquakes. However, where were all the earthquakes for other long-period comets? Nobody was making these claims about Hale-Bopp or Donati. And before anyone claims that this is because they have shorter orbital periods than Elenin what about Comet West? Its last perihelion was in 1975 and has an aphelion distance of 70,000 AU. This is 70 times the distance of Elenin's aphelion and it potentially has an orbital period of over a million years. So, where were all of the 10.0+ earthquakes in 1975 that ripped the Earth in two?
