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posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Just came across this in an article on the Independent:

Exactly what he lived on in the run- up to the massacre remains a mystery. But his bank details reveal that in 2007, a sum equivalent to €80,000 (£70,000) was added to his account, which would have enabled him to live without having to work.

www.independent.co.uk...

Possible he was funded? When I read that reminded me of the mysterious ammounts of cash in Henri Paul's banks.




posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Inheritance. He hasn't ever lived a life of want, his mother and father are moderately privileged. The money is part of an inheritance or trust.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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I used to be politically neutral. I used to remain indifferent to political beliefs. I used to think it made no difference. After reading this murderous patriots writing I can no longer remain neutral or indifferent.

Im on my own side now, but I realize that if islamic sharia gets it way there will not exist any more sides.

There will no longer exist liberal, and conservative, left, right, a green party, a workers party, labor, constitutionalists, marxists, libertarian, socialists, reform or progressive, whig or unity.

There will be no vote.
There will be no elections.
There will be no political discourse.
There will be no rational discussions.
There will be islam and only islam.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
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Inheritance. He hasn't ever lived a life of want, his mother and father are moderately privileged. The money is part of an inheritance or trust.



Just a guess? Or you have a link as evidence of this?



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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I am the OP of this thread. Just for your info I have updated the Utoya massacre with new data and a new SWAT team deployment video.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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100% false flag.
terror attack predicted by NIKE with woman soccer wm ad "Lira's MANIFESTO" (Lira=Muslim German soccer star) on 26.6.2011:




posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by Ginga

Originally posted by Aeons
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Inheritance. He hasn't ever lived a life of want, his mother and father are moderately privileged. The money is part of an inheritance or trust.



Just a guess? Or you have a link as evidence of this?


His family is fairly privileged. There was a news article speculating about it, because the timing for his money and lack of job coincides roughly with the death of one of his grandmothers.

I don't have the link. Both his mother and his father have well-off-enough families, and both of them are in the baby-boomer age group where the longest longevity parents (grandparents) are starting to go.

So no. But yes, I did read some speculation in a news article about it. I believe it was a Norwegian one, as I seem to remember using a translator on that article.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by johncarter
The sentence for terrorist acts in Norway is 21 years minimum!


Incorrect.
The maximum sentence for any crime in Norway is 21 years, maximum
edit on 30-7-2011 by Terrorist because: uh



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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yes, that's like 100days for each murder.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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the murder toll has been re set to 77, again we have the occult 7-7 numbers, just like london 7-7



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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No, that is wrong; he can be put in preventive detention for life!
-That means drugged down in solitary on a mental hospital.

(that's also what the Labour Party have done to imprison political activists ever since WWII and still is; but you didn't hear that from me)

See this thread



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
Again - By what criteria would you accept that this Manifesto was legitimate? And what does legitimate mean to you?

Seriously - one entire question. I've even given you "complete the sentence" work to help you clarify.


I'll answer this one for you.

The entire drama, does not fit the manifesto. Putting it in words, this man claims to fear Islam for Islam being people of terror. When they take over the country, we will be submitted to religion, same way as people in Saudi Arabia. Yes, you could say Iran as well.

Basically, all these Islamic extreme countries are supported by western governments. The US hit Iraq, not Iran ... and turned Iraq into another Iran. UK and US have long supported Saudi Arabia, and now want to make Lybia the same way. The people there, are fleeing the extremism towards the western countries.

Let us say, that this guy is too dumb, he doesn't see this. He lives in a priveleged Norwegian home, and wants to preserv it. He lives in a nordic country, where basically everyone is a "closet" nationalist, pretty much. They don't come out of the closet, because they don't want to be compared with Germans and nazis. Then this guy goes on, puts up a manifesto and then paints this manifesto with the blood from terrorism, and basically writes the words "nazi" over it. The manifest itself, describes the "closet" ideology of people in Scandinavia. They more or less "think" this way, but not in the open ... this guy, takes out their "closet" beliefs, and paints them in blood.

He's mean and he's evil ... but his agenda is not one peresistant with his manifesto. There isn't a chance in the Universe, this guy is such an idiot, that he didn't understand the the people in Scandinavia will not just "lock" the doors to their closets, they'll literally move their closet down into the "cellar" where nobody can see it. Am I making myself clear?

This is a 100% false flag operation.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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It's interesting to watch a certain member of this thread downplay MK programming. I noticed that this person said that "definately it wasn't that." Then this person rattles off pages of nothingness. Blah, even a huge tragedy like this is unlikely to get people thinking clearly about traumatized minds.

It is interesting that Joseph Mengele lived such a nice long life and died an old man. Truly the greatest horror of the 20th Century, his work. You have to be a high level doctor or have clearance to view the details of horrors he did to kids and especially twins. What horrors one twin would suffer while the other had to watch and so on. Or having one twin kill the other else the parents would be killed, etc.

It is said that Joey himself was the surviving twin, and that his older twin was ritualistically killed to provide occult fuel for Joey, and to fuel his self hating rage at himself, like Hitler, the famous Jewish hater of Jews.

Yes, I agree with whatshername, let us not use this event to understand the deep occult programming which WW2 invented and still perpetuates. Let us not look into the 13 occult families, let us not look at the Council of 33, let us not consider the 300 who are managed by these higher occult families. Yes, it is too painful, let us do anything we can except look into the WW2 camps and see the horrors and how those who perpetuated them were tools for further horrors. Let's us act like children, by dismissing children.

Jesus, however, told us to become like little children. He shamed all the adults by focusing on the mind of a child, curious and not full of hubris. He said if we didn't consider them and become like them, we'd fail in life.

Considering the video proof of fakery as to these Oslo bombings (see youtoobes about Oslo fake footage), then this guy now looks like a sort of Lee Harvey Oswald style patsy, who himself was another MK victim. Not saying he didn't kill these people, but that his dumbness allows him to be a tool. Oswald was the opposite, he was there to defend Kennedy but got set up. So in each case you have a certain type of Patsy. There's the evil patsy here, and the good patsy who is made to look evil, Oswald. But both boys when young, were subjected to the MK mind shattering process, which is high tech and well known in the Kissinger-level of elites.

So this shooter is simply being used by the same WW2 forces that backed all this MindKontrol madness which then got exported to all victorious nations like US USSR Norway Israel, etc.

As to this shooter talking about Jesus, it's all misdirect, Jesus is not in any way associated with the Popes (black or white) or any church on Earth. He hates them all.

We will have to collectively see the massive hypocrisy of the human race if we are to get right with the gospel. Paul says "when I was a child, I acted like a child" and this shows that Paul didn't understand Jesus. Why would Paul contradict Jesus? More importantly, Paul is superior to Jesus, if you consider the mindset of the shooter and the "church" he claims to support. The Christians of today have lost the spirit of love, the spirit of the gospel, and so Earth is in a death spiral, ideologically. But we could wake up any time, if we found the guts to do so.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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That was a wonderful post.

Thank you



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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exactly....it looks totally like the usual ''if you don't agree to socialist/arab/muslim manifesto then you're a nazi'' style deliberate propaganda attack from 'guess who', ''oh let's take a guess where would be good to do this.....ooh Germany...too 'last year' .....how about somewhere Nordic, yup, that should do it!''

Just when the world are waking up to the crazy immigration / religious threats to every nation....hmmmm wonder how many people will tone down their anti muslim / immigration talk for fear of sounding like a 'terrorist'.!

Wake up and smell the coffee oh world!



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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Thing is the majority of society, at least here in the UK, US and many other places are heavily conditioned by governments and media, mostly to regard thinking as unnecessary and to stay within 'social guidelines' of avoiding 'real' conversations about real issues. Christian values have been demonised as stupid and antequated in this so called 'modern' world. In fact it's a form of devolution, often perpetrated by the likes of labour (ie manual workers) parties against the more cerebral and educated.

The whole political system here and in many places is stupidly arranged. There should be the best minds, chosen for their minds and proven insight making the important decisions for nations, including how finances of nations should be allocated and how governments and important areas such as the NHS should be funded and managed.

World and national politics requires a complete rethink and all the selfish haters and destructive, greedy politicians ousted.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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something else of ATS, how come when threads covering major events and important political issues ALWAYS seem to get derailed by two or more people engaging in ridiculous arguments, usually caused by a protagonist?

I know this is often asked but isn't there some way of ensuring irrelevant bickering about word choice etc doesn't take up pages of threads as it makes reading the thread too much of a chore to bother.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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JohnCarter,

I am sorry for the loss over there first and foremost. Sometimes life is really not fair. Your post caught my attention after much discussion with my roomie. Also, I am a freelance Constitutional journalist/writer, so that also intrigued me to look at your post.

I am at a loss on other things concerning this, besides the media coverage. Things are not adding up. What was it a distraction for? How did he manage to destroy so many in such a little time. Even in some of the most horrific things here in the States concerning violence, when you hear the survivors talk of the attacks. Usually the answer is they hid under the bodies or they played dead. At least that is mostly what I had heard.

To me it seems as if they were connected to a chip and could not run. I know we started placing certain chips in our military here a bit back and also there are chips for animals. For finding them of course you know? A couple of months back I was in and out of the hospital and they tried to give me a shot with out a name or reason. Ok so that go shot down, however after the nurse left, I told my roomie I felt like they were trying to bug me. Not that I am paranoid or anything…just because you can’t see them, that does not mean they are not there…hehe..

Anyway, after some research, I will post the links for you provided they were saved. I came across a few of these. Please take a look and let me know what you think. This was intentional from my gut feeling. It was a distraction of some sort.

I am glad I am not the only questioning this situation from other perspectives. If he was one of many, where are the rest? So on and so forth. Excellent post…star and flag.

Thanks for sharing freely.

Ainge
www.wanbee.org... loading/

www.reuters.com... vartis-proteus-idUSTRE6A754720101108



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
something else of ATS, how come when threads covering major events and important political issues ALWAYS seem to get derailed by two or more people engaging in ridiculous arguments, usually caused by a protagonist?

I know this is often asked but isn't there some way of ensuring irrelevant bickering about word choice etc doesn't take up pages of threads as it makes reading the thread too much of a chore to bother.


Well, my apologies to any readers that had to wade through what was basically one point being argued for many pages. I really should have recognized the baiting and obfuscating, and quit. Sometimes, I am too stubborn.

I will say again, in my opinion, and from everything I have read, this massacre does look like deep-level Monarch programming to me. And I question whether the "manifesto" (which is obviously intended for the public to see,) was actually authored by the gunman. If it was, perhaps he was guided as to what to write (maybe as part of the programming.)
edit on 30-7-2011 by SevenStarrz because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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it's probably happened to us all though would prefer the mods took more notice of protagonists.





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