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Norway a victim of Supporting Palestine?

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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Ok Iam in fact a supporter of Israel , as a nation, but also a sympathiser with the displaced and sined against many Palestinians.
A member in another thread nudged me to this link below
www.commondreams.org...

So it is transparent and highly scary, but it makes a chilling sort of sense.

If any EU nation feels it wants to follow suit?

The kids massacred in Norway were undoubtedly in some cases children of Government in power, a government who were thumbing their noses at accepted manners in relation to the middle east?

Just coincidence?

I do not know I just hope some who didn't know of this may think about it.
edit on 23-7-2011 by Dr Expired because: Question mark addition

edit on 23-7-2011 by Dr Expired because: mmm self preservation



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:53 AM
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And remember, Norway didn't join the alliance attacking Libya.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by zionistsareterrorists
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And remember, Norway didn't join the alliance attacking Libya.


Yes they did.

They are currently phasing out, but they most definitely did join the attack, and are currently involved.

Get your facts straight.

www.cnsnews.com...



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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The guy is a Christian Fundamentalist...


I think most of the "theories" can be put to bed now..



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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just like japan talked to iran, and boom! stuxnet attack on fukushima....god's chosen indeed....



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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Which theories?

Right Wing Christians are usually best buddies with another group of people. If ANYTHING this makes certain theories seem more plausible now.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
The guy is a Christian Fundamentalist...


I think most of the "theories" can be put to bed now..



Ok so a christian fundamentalist kills approx 100 kids of his own race? to make what end?

A nation tht is about to recognise Palestine and be the first EU nation to do so suffers the execution of its nations leaders children?
A bit like the Polish wipeout?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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On the 21th of July, one day before the shooting-massacre, the participants of the Labour Youth League camp on Utøya organized a protest. They were protesting for a free Palestine.



As foreign minister arrived Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.

The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.

politisk.tv2.no...
(copy url and use google translate)



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Can this be true?
So why is no one on ATS apart from us talking about this coincidental occurence?
The Poles were silenced by murder , so is this the Norwegian wood silencer?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Good thread


Moonofalabama provides an excellent perspective on this incident.

I recall stories of the Pied Piper of Hamlin, this is just as bad. 80 kids out of 700 dead, the rest scared for life.

It's hard to pinpoint who is responsible exactly, Norway's independance for something is being punished, that's for certain. Free thought most likely.

But this is just a single incident from a whole string, carefully laid plans to influence ... us in the end, everyone. Not a lone bomber, this is the work of a 3 man team, with cash and experience. 2 Players have been identified, the third was in the background. Apparently the guy just gave himself up or something, expect constant MEDIA attention for the duration, and a LOT of hypotheticals and maybes thrown at the public, to sow confusion.

Who gains from this?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Not every terror attack is political motivated. Let's wait, what Anders Behring Breivik has to say about his motivation and what the investigation brings. Perhaps, he is just a lone nut. But there is also the possibility, that he had help. Mossad has conducted many ruthless operations, but Mossad is hardly the only intelligence agency which has used false flag attacks in the past.

In Europe have been a number of precedents, in which right-wing extremists committed acts of terror in conjunction with western intelligence agencies. In the past leftists, anarchists and communists were blamed for these attacks. But today the scapegoats have changed. These attacks were part of the strategy of tension. Often, even the highest-ranking government officials weren't informed about these operations.
en.wikipedia.org...


In order to guarantee a solid anti-communist ideology of its recruits, the CIA and MI6 generally relied on men of the conservative political Right. At times, former Nazis and right-wing terrorists were also recruited.

Terrorism in Western Europe: An Approach to NATO’s Secret Stay-Behind Armies by Daniele Ganser (28 pgs)
www.php.isn.ethz.ch...

Daniele Ganser, has done a lot of research about the stay-behind armies and violent clandestine covert operations. Here a link to his website:
www.danieleganser.ch...

Alan Francovich, was another researcher, who has exposed covert operations. He was an American film producer and director, whose work focused on the C.I.A. He died at age 56 when he suffered a heart attack, while going through US customs at Houston airport.

His 3-part video-series exposes the clandestine 'stay-behind' operation sponsored by the CIA and NATO to counter communist influence after World War II in Italy, as well as in other European countries. The Gladio network of operatives is alleged to have been involved in various acts of terrorism, trying to influence policies through the means of 'false flag' operations. The series can be accessed at archive.org.
www.archive.org...

Here is a short clip from this video series, in which one of the perpetrators describes, how they were supposed to attack civilians, women and children.

Vinciguerra on the Strategy of Tension





posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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This is very valuable information, thank you. Ganser's paper reinforced my suspicions concerning Western Europe.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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In the first few comments on this thread, people were calling the gunman a fundamentalist Christian. I believe he is a Zionist Christian. The Prime Minister of Norway supports the state recognition of Palestine, which is anti-USA, Israel and a few other nations position, this fueled the opposition of the gunman toward the Prime Minister and the youth group at the camp, which is anti-Zionist. His making a statement, unfortunately he is not a peaceful protester. I do not appreciate it when people assume he is a Christian Fundamentalist.

I admire the strength of the Prime Minister of Norway and applaud his stance on Palestine. He is in no way shaking his stance and he is standing for his Country and People, and the rights of other nations to exist as a productive and recognized independent sovereignty.

Born in Norway



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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Yes it is irritating , the christian fundamentalist thing rings hollow, but the pro Zionist western media isn't going to lable him a Christian Zionist sympathiser, lest millions of people google "zionism" and discover a new world?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
The guy is a Christian Fundamentalist...


I think most of the "theories" can be put to bed now..



He is also a freemason and posted a zionist manifesto in book and you tube form.

So I can easily see him attacking because they support palenstine



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:53 AM
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Same reason christian fundamentalists here in the US kill people; they're not "pure" enough. Note that the targets were the (labor) government building and an island vacation that was.. .sponsored? Attended? I'm unclear - by the Labor party.

Just another instance of by-the-book Christian terrorism that will, of course, be dismissed as a "lone nut"



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 02:55 AM
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Norwegian spree killer was a moderate. Media using fake facebook profile.

The English language facebook page identifying the killer as a “Christian” & “Conservative” was created AFTER his killing spree was over.

cofcc.org...
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by RAF4BNP
Norwegian spree killer was a moderate. Media using fake facebook profile.

The English language facebook page identifying the killer as a “Christian” & “Conservative” was created AFTER his killing spree was over.

cofcc.org...
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Anders Behring Breivik might not have been a Neo-Nazi, but a William Kristol-style neocon is certainly no moderate. Neocons get lots of time in the MSM. Although their predictions and analysis are nearly always wrong, they are still respected pundits. Neocons are not shunned like other right-wing extremists, but in my opinion they have caused more damage, than all other right-wing groups of the US comined.The paranoid mindset of the neocons was perhaps the driving force, which brought the United States to enter 2 wars of aggression.

They are still calling for more wars. Libya, Iran, Syria - you name it. As long as Muslims are the scapegoats, the neocons are happy. Combine their compulsive warmongering and accusations and their "clash of cultures-theory" might even become true.

All prominent neocons are Zionists. And while they proclaim to stand for moral values and democracy, their various actions at home and personal behaviour belies these claims.


The neocons are an ideological group with a long and revealing history. Wielding official power directly or indirectly over five decades, a neocon elite has above all else promoted an aggressive, ultra-nationalistic foreign policy. Even though the group has typically advocated military interventions overseas as a means of spreading democratic freedoms, its conduct at home has scarcely suggested a commitment to these ideals. The group’s approaches typically involved pressuring policy makers, not promoting public debate. It has also shown a keen interest in manipulating public opinion—including the strategic use of planned provocations. As we’ve seen, the neocon Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has publicly entertained the idea of a “new Pearl Harbor” to arouse public support for military spending and interventions. As part of its plans for American domination, PNAC openly discussed a permanent occupation of Iraq.

www.sf911truth.org...

If you view the Anders Behring Breivik's video and look at his manifesto, it becomes clear, that Breivik considered himself to be a "modern crusader". Disregard for law and human lives, combined with their crusader-attitude is exactley what makes a neocon. Not every right-wing extremist hates Jews.


Anders Behring Breivik, the man being held for Friday's shooting at an island off the coast of Norway, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments in English in the past and was an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, according to a Sunday-evening report by Channel 2 television. Breivik's 1,500 page book attacks the European political establishment because he sees it as an ally of the Muslims against Israel, and praises Israel for not giving Muslims the same rights they enjoy in different European countries.

www.israelnationalnews.com...
edit on 25-7-2011 by Drunkenshrew because: typos corrected and link and quote added



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Here are Anders Behring Breivik's own words:

Were the majority of the German and European Jews disloyal? Yes, at least the so called liberal Jews, similar to the liberal Jews today that opposes nationalism/Zionism and supports multiculturalism. Jews that support multiculturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism (Israeli nationalism) as they are to us. So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists. Conservative Jews were loyal to Europe and should have been rewarded. Instead, he just targeted them all… So, are the current Jews in Europe and US disloyal?

weeklyintercept.blogspot.com...

The MSM throws around various labels to characterize Breivik. He is called a right-wing extremist, a conservative, a Christian, a nationalist - but a fitting label, which is not used by the media (with a few exceptions) is Zionist-supporter.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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In Australia the mass murderer has been reported as a right wing extremist christian, with no comment on his pro zionism mentioned. this has to be selective reporting on the most blatant scale.

It seems the only terrorists ever reported are either Muslim or Christian.
Is this not proof that the media is controlled by pro zionists?
I do not know ...but something seems odd up the North way.



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