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Death Toll Rises Dramatically In Norway Shooting

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
Hitmen are professionals they are guns for hire...a man who hasn't killed in the past....how could he slay so many children in one session?
He is obviously a professional, an agent with a false history and background.


Well, psychologically from his standpoint, how he kept shooting is a matter for some question, if he was never trained to do it. But of course, it is entirely possible for an otherwise normal person to do that, with sufficient ideological determination that the people he is shooting somehow "aren't human enough to count", or so on.

And then if he is dressed as a policeman, think about it from the victims perspective:
You hear gunfire, and screams, most likely in the distance. This obviously is going to make you afraid, and prone to panicking and potentially irrational behaviour. Then you see someone dressed as a policeman calling to you (who will have come from the direction of the gunfire earlier). At this point you would likely assume that he has been told to evacuate you, or to tell you where to take cover while other policemen deal with the gunman, and go over to him. [In that situation, can you honestly say with certainty that you would assume the policeman is the actual gunman?] And get shot, obviously.

As for those fleeing in the water, accuracy not withstanding, from the shooters point of view less of those people could be seen (due to reflection and so on), making a less human shape (and less of an obvious target, to be sure) which would be psychologically easier to pull the trigger on.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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He did some military service. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:06 AM
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This really reminds me of the Australian Port Arthur Massacre.

en.wikipedia.org...

Again a "supposed single blond gunman" in a camp area, making exceptional number of kill targets, that would not normally occur by an untrained civilian, (i.e. multiple head shots in Port Arthur).

This looks so familiar, either a copycat, or something else.

By the way, the Port Arthur Massacre led to Prime Minister John Howard enacting far ranging new gun laws, including gun buy backs, etc, etc, which left many, many gun owners not happy.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:09 AM
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Which makes it easier from his point of view, for sure. Doesn't make him a hitman any more than it makes every veteran of military service ever, a hitman.

So I'm not sure where you are coming from, because at the end of the day he is still human, and unlikely to have been part of a massive conspiracy to do something like this.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:14 AM
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Martin Bryant was also caught and arrested, see Port Arthur Massacre Australia, very similar, single lone blond gunman, multiple deaths, but this event was used to enact so many massive gun law changes???



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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or he was under mind control, like a sleeper and was awoken to do the deed.

CIA? or similar



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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Just one word: Neo-nazis. They are some sort of problem in bigger cities. As immigration rates rise, more and more these sick people appear. They can do anything to make anarchy and spread the word of nazism. Socialist youth camping was ideal location for this. He has planned this for long, and probably not alone.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by apex

And then if he is dressed as a policeman, think about it from the victims perspective:
You hear gunfire, and screams, most likely in the distance. This obviously is going to make you afraid, and prone to panicking and potentially irrational behaviour. Then you see someone dressed as a policeman calling to you (who will have come from the direction of the gunfire earlier). At this point you would likely assume that he has been told to evacuate you, or to tell you where to take cover while other policemen deal with the gunman, and go over to him. [In that situation, can you honestly say with certainty that you would assume the policeman is the actual gunman?] And get shot, obviously.


If anyone missed there is a good movie called "The Kingdom" IMDB.

There is a scene where terrorists do exactly what apex said. They start shooting, making a fake attack. Everyone running scared when a suicide bomber dressed like a policeman shows up. He gathers people around himself then press the button.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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Not only that the politicians are circling around like vultures here already. "We have to tighten security" "We need tighter gun laws". etc.
This makes me rage so bad that on the other hand I do understand how some people just flip.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher
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Really? Israeli's want the same dam thing everyone else want, that is a normal peaceful life to raise their kids. This kind of post just proves the devil is sinking his claws deep in the minds of the ignorant. Why cant the Jews just live at peace on their small plot of land and not have everyone constantly attacking them?

Have you ever asked yourself that?

If the Jews lived in Antarctica, someone would claim they were doing something bad and harass them with attacks.

If you cant see why the Jews have been constantly persecuted since the history of man then you need to do more studding.

Ask yourself why there are hundreds of ancient Jewish holy sites in Israel that are a lot older a whole lot more than ANY Muslim-Islamic sites? Answer that Mr.semitic?


Ask yourself why Jews always seem to be under attack. A sense of entitlement can put a target on your back. Now that I think about it, that is what religion does in general. If you think that you are a "chosen one" from some imaginary friend, the actions that follow tend to piss people off. When consequences of this arrogance arise, it is so easy for people to play the victim, therefore harnessing that power.

What happened in Norway is a big ole hideous cluster f%#. I feel for them and hope that it is an Isolated incident that does not escalate. I wish children were not involved. I would happily give my life for just one of those kids to still be alive.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Will you all shut up about the Jews. You that say the Jews are responsible for this & that are stupid.
People of every race & religion have been used and manipulated by those in power with an agenda. They don't really care about the Jews. They are just used to further their goal of a new world order. The Jews are used & manipulated by the racist ADL.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Just jumped on for a minute this am to say that I am mortified by this terrible news. Dont have alot of time so wanted to lend my support to this thread and to say they are all in my prayers.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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This guy was plain and simply a murder, he was premeditated and not making any statement other than terror! This is the reason why ppl should NOT loose their gun rights! If the camp directors had been armed many lives would have been saved.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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He did some military service. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!


Of course he did. He's Norwegian. They are required too. Helloooooooo! I'd call you an idiot, but that's against t&c. Plus That would be disrespectful and I think that you are a big beautiful ray of sunshine.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by MasterGemini
I posted in another thread so sorry if it offends anyone

Looks like a possible occult sacrifice...


Plus this guy is a freemason. . .


Accusations of this sort are completely uncalled for in an open-minded discussion forum such as this.
To equate this terrorist event with those who seek a greater depth of knowledge than what we are typically spoon-fed, is wrong in so many ways. Finger pointing towards your own personally disliked groups without adequate evidence will forever be known as a "witch hunt".



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by TheCoffinman


Any thoughts? For all the Islam hating going on here, how does it feel to be wrong about this one? any thought about it being a Christian?

www.npr.org
(visit the link for the full news article)


His father is a Muslim; like father like son



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by lowundertheradar

Originally posted by MasterGemini
I posted in another thread so sorry if it offends anyone

Looks like a possible occult sacrifice...


Plus this guy is a freemason. . .


Accusations of this sort are completely uncalled for in an open-minded discussion forum such as this.
To equate this terrorist event with those who seek a greater depth of knowledge than what we are typically spoon-fed, is wrong in so many ways. Finger pointing towards your own personally disliked groups without adequate evidence will forever be known as a "witch hunt".


While it seems reasonable that an inquiry into the possible occult significance of this event ought to have been explored in a separate thread dedicated to the topic, it strikes me as rather close-minded of you to demand that it ought not to be discussed at all.

No one's pointing any fingers at Wiccans, or Pagans, or even Transhumanist/Luciferian pop-stars (slight jab at your avatar, couldn't help meself).

Anyone who has an interest in how numerology and mystery cults could theoretically tie-in with these sort of events should check out this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by TheCoffinman


Any thoughts? For all the Islam hating going on here, how does it feel to be wrong about this one? any thought about it being a Christian?

That he acted alone is hard to swallow, not impossible but rare certainly. The latest ive seen is 27 dead.. i don't know about the injured. I imagine it will take a week or so before the authorities figure things out. No doubt the ruling Labour Party was the target of the attacks. Seems Norway isn;t as all quiet as it seems. There is hate boiling underneath somewhere. Today it just boiled over :

www.npr.org
(visit the link for the full news article)


If anyone believes this piece of human garbage acted alone I have some fantastic real-estate in antarctica up for sale...

Follow the trail here, the guy is a freemason, why aren't the police kicking in the lodge doors he is a member at and asking questions there?
This 'acted alone' is exactly the same bs line the cops in Scotland trotted out after Dunblane!

The Patsy takes the fall and the real satanic crooks chuckle into the night at the sacrificial killing committed by one of their own...



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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posted by Dr Expired Hitmen

are professionals they are guns for hire...a man who hasn't killed in the past....how could he slay so many children in one session? He is obviously a professional, an agent with a false history and background.


Because you think it needs SKILL to kill *unarmed* KIDS with automatic weapons? (Especially in the area where they were at, an island without a way to escape)

/facepalm

As for the psychological aspect of this...he obviously already prove that he is "whack"..so i dont think that normal, human psychological standards would apply in this case.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by antar
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This guy was plain and simply a murder, he was premeditated and not making any statement other than terror! This is the reason why ppl should NOT loose their gun rights! If the camp directors had been armed many lives would have been saved.


This is what I was thinking. The trouble is the Norwegian's have forgotten their pagan roots and warrior spirit. They've instead liberalised their ways and gone soft.
Nothing actually wrong with that until someone shows up and can't be taken down by the people present.

If the country had RTKBA this would be nowwhere near as bad!
Instead it's the same old terrible tale of helpless civilian's at the mercy of a gunman while the cops don't do a thing until it's too late!
How much longer is western civilisation in Europe going to take before it realises that people can't stop a spree-killer unless they are armed!




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