Death Toll Rises Dramatically In Norway Shooting

This was weird last night. I receive BBC Live News updates to my phone and the first one I got was of the bomb in Oslo, 7 dead. Then another a bit later about the man on the island shooting kids. At first it said '4 dead' then half an hour later it updated and the two had been merged together with a death toll of 80. WTH?

Then it's a christian man dressed as a cop who's the trigger man AND bomb maker? Whom acted alone?

Smells like fish...and it isn't the queen.

reply to post by Nurv47


I honestly thaught it might be Monsanto, sending a message to th Norway goverment about their stance on GM products...

guess it's still too early to know what was going on in this guys head..

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U nailed it.

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I feel the same way, sadly i really feel this may have been a false flag due to the fact he was a freemason.

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Ha ha....Yeah I'm not usually a big fan of RT....they are as biased as Fox, but just with a different agenda. Still as far as I know the stuff in this clip was fairly accurate, at least as far as what we know at this time.

Thanks for posting it up for me though.

Islamophobia has reached a mass murder level in Norway as the confessed killer claims he sought to combat encroachment by Muslims into his country and Europe. ... a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination... And acquaintances described him as a gun-loving Norwegian obsessed with what he saw as the threats of multiculturalism and Muslim immigration. Thomas Hegghammer, a terrorism specialist at the Norwegian Defense Research Establishment, told the times that Breivik's manuscript, like the major Qaeda declarations, include...detailed accounts of the Crusades, a pronounced sense of historical grievance and calls for apocalyptic warfare to defeat the religious and cultural enemy.

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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by WatchRider

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by here4awhile
.even their police aren't armed with guns until they go get permission to do so...this wouldn't happen here (it could happen but he wouldn't get very far like he did there)

Yeah, a shooting rampage would NEVER happen in the US because guns have prevented them.

Except for thee and other notable examples, of course in Texas, Colorado, Virginia, etc...

www.msnbc.msn.com...

news.xinhuanet.com...

cvillenews.com...

www.reuters.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

edit on 23-7-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)

There's the fact that the killing spree's in america take place in 'gun banned zones'
The last spree killer who tried in a gun-carrying area didn't do so well...

You use the word 'fact' inaccurately, friend.

Neither the UVA shooting nor the shooting on a Texas military base were 'gun banned zones'.

Sorry to shoot your faulty 'facts' out of the water


kinda shoots your theory outta the water. Sorry bout that.

edit on 23-7-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)

Not really, the Texas shooting took place amid crowds of unarmed soldiers. You see, thanks to federal-imposed statutes, soldiers aren't allowed to carry their own firearms on bases. Only 'authorised' gate guards get that one.

UVA shooting? You mean the Virginia Tech spree which was a 'gun-banned' zone.
Back to the drawing board for you Mr Shill

I'm not sure anybody here's mentioned it, but could it be that, if it is a "false flag" -- that the scapegoat being a sort of "christian fundamentalist" was done to justify a Homeland Security crusade against "christian fundamentalists"- marginalizing them and shutting down websites suspected of it?

I'm not a christian fundamentalist myself, and most of what the "Christian Coalition" has stood for is quite distasteful to me.

BUT---- In a way, they would quite likely be tending towards anti-globlism - isolationism. I recently read an article that said that over the past couple of years, Americans left right and center have been becoming increasingly isolationist - anti-globalist. Now, is it possible here that some element of the "Christian Right" is about to break with TPTB, use their considerable political and economic influence to break the globalist back, with the eye to gaining broad public support as true isolationists (bring back manufacturing, end the wars, etc.).

Has anybody else thought of this? I was thinking it over last night and the more I think about it, the more plausible it seems.

If this is what's happening, then the SHTF scenario is coming up very fast. I doubt the christian right would ever be able to gain enough power in this country to gain their full agenda, but they could provide the initial explosion, so to speak. And remember- nobody of any sort of "true faith" has ever been afraid of chaos. Historically this has produced some of the best and some of the worst situations. If they set their eyes on the globalists as the evil, they will not back down and there will be a great deal of non-fundamentalist christian support. But I think they would fail to achieve any full fascist agenda.

And, I still would like to hear from some of the technos and pyrotechnos here about whether that Norway bomb was really fertilizer or not.

And now it is back down to 68... Apparently people either rose from the dead or the police here are even so incompetent that they cannot count.
What a country I live in...

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No all the musicians were Norwegian and they all played Black Metal, and they specifically expressed those views and opinions during interviews throughout the documentary.

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Ok the point I am trying to make is that the musicians in this documentary are a good example of people who have a logical, albeit miss guided, reason for inflicting violence on other people. I do not mean to say the gunman has ties to the Black Metal music scene, but maybe that he shares a perspective with them regarding religious history.