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reply posted on 6-8-2011 @ 02:10 PM by sai1711

Originally posted by gladtobehere
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Which "theories" are you referring to? These are eye witness accounts, one of whom was an Indian police officer who exchanged gunfire with one of the terrorists.

I see no theories here at all. Just simple facts.

Right from the first instance of the shooting incidence it has been said time and time again that it were pakistanis

Because something is repeatedly endlessly its true? Sounds similar to the way in which Osama was immediately blamed for 9/11. The facts have disproved that story line as well.
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hey, I dont know which world you are living in, however, I know that in India there is a word for anyone with a fair complexion of skin i.e. "Gora" meaning white coloured skin. I myself get that comment a lot of times.Infact most of the times. The Pakistanis have a similar complexion as mine. White in India doesn't mean white European type. I think most of the forumers and other guys here got that misconception.

reply posted on 6-8-2011 @ 04:58 PM by gladtobehere

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Well, I'm living in a World that likes to consider the facts when available or form a reasonable theory in the absence of concrete evidence. No need to be rude.

Well, you're welcome to believe whatever you'd like but the facts clearly contradict your beliefs. Witnesses clearly said "White" not light skinned with "punkish hair styles". I would think that an Indian police officer would know the difference between a light skinned Indian person and someone who was White as would an Iraqi tourist, dont you?

reply posted on 6-8-2011 @ 10:17 PM by sai1711

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by sai1711

Well, I'm living in a World that likes to consider the facts when available or form a reasonable theory in the absence of concrete evidence. No need to be rude.

Well, you're welcome to believe whatever you'd like but the facts clearly contradict your beliefs. Witnesses clearly said "White" not light skinned with "punkish hair styles". I would think that an Indian police officer would know the difference between a light skinned Indian person and someone who was White as would an Iraqi tourist, dont you?

Sorry if I sounded rude, but then thats the problem with this HTML webpage right? We cant see the other person's facial expressions. However, I have gone through every Documentary, every News-link which are credible in India which do not sensationalize the news and sell it. The Police officers who exchanged bullets with the Terrorists always said, they were guys dressed in casual western outfits. You look at the videos which were released at the very first instance, they contained Men who looked like: Indians, Paksitanis or Afghanis. Infact some of the Pakistanis and Indians do look like Iraqis. For example look at this Indian actor
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Now how does he look like? His name is Jugal Hansraj
Kindly source me the links which say that police officer was exchanging fire with Whites, a video should solve these issues.

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reply posted on 7-8-2011 @ 02:05 AM by gladtobehere

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No worries.

Unfortunately that picture did not work for me but I am guessing that its a picture of a South Asian whos complexion is very fair.

If you look at the statments, I would argue that its very clear that they did not mean light skinned. Here are the quotes:

One police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish centre told the Guardian the attackers were "white"...

"I went into the building late last night," he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back.

www.guardian.co.uk...

He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting.

"They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed," says Mr Amir.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Not to mention that one of people arrested was a CIA DEA agent, David Headley:

Indian investigators, who have been denied access to Mr Headley, suspect that he remained on the payroll of the US security services — possibly working for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)…

www.timesonline.co.uk...

While there may have been Pakistani involvement, I tend to doubt it. If youre familiar with "false flag" operations, this one has CIA Mossad written all over it.

The reasons are obvious. The US is about to enter into a 4th war with Pakistan (already in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya). Why risk American lives and money when they can have India attack for them.

Whereas the reasons for Pakistan to be involved are less likely. I doubt they'd like to start another war.

reply posted on 7-8-2011 @ 06:11 AM by sai1711

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Hello
Yes, I have gone through these possibilities of a False Flag Ops. Sometimes also referred as black ops? I am not sure about that. However, When I look at the news pieces you provided, they all had one thing in common. i.e. All of them are UK based news channels.

There was a documentary on NGC " Seige of Mumbai" or something on similar terms. The college student who was sitting in his apartment and watching the skirmish between Hemant Karkare and Ajmal Kasab. The thing is in India we have Neon Street lights, so even if someone has slight brown hair would look like blond hair. However, there are two contradictory points one might have to consider.
1. If it were a covert false flag CIA-Mossad op. then why wouldn't they take care of things like appointing a brunette as a gunman? And more Middle Eastern looking guy? e.g. Hollywood actor Adrien broody? a Jewish actor who can qualify as a Kashmiri or an Indian Iyengar easily? There are good number of hair dyes available to paint them black haired?
2. Why is US trying to isolate Headley and company from the Indian authorities?

you see 1st point makes me wonder are the CIA and Mossad so foolish and slipshod in their operations where they would leave a room for people like us to speculate? Whereas 2nd point does say that there is something which is more than what meets the eye.

reply posted on 7-8-2011 @ 12:12 PM by gladtobehere

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Well, people ask similar questions about 9/11. For example, why use the passports and identities of people who are still alive... My guess would be that they think people are stupid.

Hijack 'suspects' alive and well

This is just speculation, I'm no "intelligence expert". I would argue that it makes perfect sense to use their own agents. They could enter the hotel undetected and as the hotel was being evacuated, they could easily slip-out posing as American or European tourists, especially when the authorities are looking for South Asian types.

The Hemant Karkare link is another interesting aspect. There are varying accounts of how he died and what he was about to expose just prior to being killed:

Hemant Karkare – False Flag Investigator Killed in Mumbai Attack

reply posted on 7-8-2011 @ 12:40 PM by sai1711

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by sai1711

Well, people ask similar questions about 9/11. For example, why use the passports and identities of people who are still alive... My guess would be that they think people are stupid.

Hijack 'suspects' alive and well

This is just speculation, I'm no "intelligence expert". I would argue that it makes perfect sense to use their own agents. They could enter the hotel undetected and as the hotel was being evacuated, they could easily slip-out posing as American or European tourists, especially when the authorities are looking for South Asian types.

The Hemant Karkare link is another interesting aspect. There are varying accounts of how he died and what he was about to expose just prior to being killed:

Hemant Karkare – False Flag Investigator Killed in Mumbai Attack

Hmm makes sense. Hey however, if I comment about the present Govt's Minority Religious group's appeasing policies, I might be labeled as a hardliner, however, Hemanth Karkare himself is a suspicious personality. There have been 64 terrorist attacks in the rule of the Congress govt in India in the past 5 years before the 26/11. It was only Malegaon blasts where Muslim majority lives , had there been a diurnal progress in investigation by Hemanth Karkare's and Anti Terrorist Squad's investigation. On day 1 they arrest a Hindu lady in fact a Hindu spiritual leader. On Day 2 they say a Motor Bike belonged to her which had the bombs implanted in it The golden question is, why would a spiritual leader who is a female would be foolish enough to buy a motor bike which she cant ride? I smell rats in Govt's investigation. And that should bring Hemanth Karkare under scanner.
he problem with India is, Hindus being a majority are labeled communal if they just utter " Jai Shri Ram" and make peace, while Muslims are not communal if they yell Allah o Akbar and kill Hindus. Christians would be called pacifist if they say hail Jesus and defame the Hindu gos and teach things against Hinduism, however a Hindu would be lynched for just clarifying the truth. And the result is peaceful Hindus pushed to the edge to react. Thats why you read about attacks on Christians in India. Attacks on Muslims. Even the Indian media is Communist in India. However they only condemn Hindus and not any other religion. Because , Media know if it attacks any other faith the next day their funds would be cut for criticizing Christians and their heads would be plucked apart for condemning Muslim acts.

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reply posted on 7-8-2011 @ 12:55 PM by sai1711

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I was just thinking to write the entire thread on how wrong Alex Jones and prison planet is about Hemanth Karkare and Indian scenario of politics. May be I would post a big thread , which sums up the history and present scenario of things going on in India and would try to connect them with the future of the Geo political dynamics of this region. This would happen when am done with 20 posts on ATS I think.Right now I am writing a very bad English, because I am down with a couple of Budweisers, however, FYI I work as a so called scientist for the Indian Defence Labs.
sincerely
Sai

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