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Fukushima Reactor Sabatoged? Tsunami Created by Nuke?

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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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You want to talk about a conspiracy theory! In this article I came across, the author Jim Stone, explains in detail the technical problems associated with the MSM information we have received regarding the cause of the reactor failures in Fukushima. He alleges that the reactors were sabotaged and that the Tsunami that occurred after the earthquake that struck the region, may have been generated by a tsunami generating nuclear device! The video he had posted proving the earthquake shock waves that hit a Sendai newsroom were not as severe as reported by the USGS has been removed from the YouTube account. The author alleges a USGS cover-up on the actual earthquake seismograph telemetry severity. The motive for this alleged Israeli backed attack was to deter Japan from aiding Iran to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.


Though I have yet to work out the final details, I probably have enough to hang them because:
1. I got the real seismic data that proves beyond a doubt the quake is not what we were told and was in fact an inland 6.8, (calculated higher than the seismogram due to the triangulated true epicenter being a little higher) which would get noticed but not feared in quake ridden Japan.

2. Numerous referenced sources prove Stuxnet really was written by Israel.

3. Japan really did offer to enrich Uranium for Iran, and Israel has been documented to have attempted to destroy the reactor in Iran, and probably did. Japan contributing to Iran’s nuclear future would make them just as much an enemy to Israel as Iran. Israel would want them taken out.

4. It is documented that a team from Israel, with a history consisting only of working in Israeli defense, got unlimited access to a Japanese nuclear facility, which then went boom

5. Reactor 4 had been defueled and proven disassembled, and therefore no explosion there was possible. What should have happened at reactor 4, if anything at all? the fuel pools should have melted down and caught fire once the water boiled off from lack of recirculation AT Worst, and badly contaminated the containment structure, NOTHING ELSE. NO explosions, NOTHING ELSE. Reactor 4 is building 7, PERIOD. Why did an explosion there happen that was so severe it blew the outer containment walls (4 feet thick) and inner containment walls that were much thicker? Reactor 4 is reportedly now in danger of falling over. HOW?

6. The Japanese government is going along with the story of a scientifically proven false 9.0. There is a reason, and my guess is that Israel has made threats to wipe out Japanese coastal cities with additional tsunamis if the government of Japan speaks a word of what went on, there should be no reason for Japan to go along with this other than a continued threat.

www.jimstonefreelance.com...
westernfrontamerica.com...

The purpose for this post is to critique the credibility of the information the author has presented on this terrible Japanese tragedy. We have many intelligent ATS readers. This is hard for me to believe, I have trusted the information from the MSM (WHAT?). Is this just another example of antisemitism? Is there a shred of truth to any of this?



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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This has been done before on here...il find links....its absolute BS, there was no nukes....the dudes a lying sack of [snip]


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Posted already, many many times....you didnt search no?? I used "Jim stone" as a search term

edit on 22-7-2011 by loves a conspiricy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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The United States and the rest of NATO would have to have stepped aside and allowed Israel to do this, they could not nor would not dare to have tried to go it alone and there is just no possible way there is any truth to this.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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reply to post by loves a conspiricy
I did a search first on ATS for this before I posted it. Maybe I missed it? Thanks!



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Helious
reply to post by ontarff


The United States and the rest of NATO would have to have stepped aside and allowed Israel to do this, they could not nor would not dare to have tried to go it alone and there is just no possible way there is any truth to this.


Is the information he uses to support his theory bogus? I don't know. It is going to take some time for me to research a lot of his comments and references to discredit him. Why would he make such a fool of himself?

He states,

This post has been greatly improved via input from readers. If you have information proving any points wrong, or think something should be clarified, as well as new info that can further solidify the case, contact me. Thanks!

edit on 7/22/2011 by ontarff because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
This has been done before on here...il find links....its absolute BS, there was no nukes....the dudes a lying sack of [snip]


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Posted already, many many times....you didnt search no?? I used "Jim stone" as a search term

edit on 22-7-2011 by loves a conspiricy because: (no reason given)


Ah yes, I found the threads. Thanks!

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

edit on 7/22/2011 by ontarff because: link added



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Japan DID agree to help Iran with it's nuclear reactor. It was on an Official Iranian website.


I bet in order to survive you WILL SEE Japan side with China and North Korea soon.

If they don't...they know they are dead anyways.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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In case someone is offended by this thread, I did not intend to insult the people of Japan that are experiencing the hardships associated with this tragedy. My intent was only to get feedback from the ATS community and investigate the allegations made by the author of the article. Please accept my apology for any unintended insult to you or the people of Japan.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Fascinating theory although I hope it's better than the tired old "Let's blame the Jews" argument. I've always assumed that this was a Chinese Nuke from a Chinese sub and that the prima facie evidence of using a nuclear weapon as the "trigger" was the actual Richter measurement itself: 9.1!

Nature does not deliver 9.1 earthquakes. The highest readings without nuclear triggers are like 7.6! These are terrifying events in themselves but 9.1 is horrifying! Now you say it was a 6.8? No way.

Chinese subs launched three missiles or torpedoes last year...the missile was unarmed, the torpedoes were not.
1) Nuclear weapon Japan 2) unarmed missile launched from a submerged Chinese sub in the San Pedro Channel off the LA coast (I'd love to know where that sucker finally landed wouldn't you?) 3) Nuclear weapon aimed at the BP Oil rig in the gulf....this could have been a Russian sub or a North Korean one under orders from Russia. BP had discovered the largest oil reserve on the planet and its development of this find would have put both Russia and Saudi Arabia out of the oil business in ten years.

Sorry no links. I just "know"



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
This has been done before on here...il find links....its absolute BS, there was no nukes....the dudes a lying sack of [snip]


Wait on a second

Yes i agree it sounds mad and i would say the same as you was it not for me seeing a Youtube vid when some top japanesse politician said that he had to give in to US demnds else his country would be subjected to a massvie Tsunami.

Thing is this came out years before the Tsunami hit japan so it does make one think and do bear in mind that wepons development is about 20 years ahead of where people think it is.

just saying like.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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In one of the ATS threads mentioned I posted a link to Jim Stone because I thought it was interesting to consider, not because I believed it. I don't know anything about Jim Stone, but I was immediately and viciously attacked for simply posting it, seems I was supposed to know he was a moonbat even though he seems to have some data behind his ideas - as far-out as they are.

He might just be too far-out for folks here to even consider, or perhaps people have some more insight into him I don't possess. His site is pretty amateur looking, but I forgive a lot of that since folks can have good ideas and not know a dam thing about building websites.

Seems most ATS dismiss this guy outright although I've yet to see his ideas dissected and thoroughly debunked. It would be interesting to have a discussion on the merits of his ideas - keeping emotionality out of it. Just looking at his ideas and factual evidence. We are supposed be good at that at ATS right?

1. Do we believe when he says there is no/little earthquake damage? Has anyone seen the massive damage a 9.1 would cause? This proof could debunk his theory.

2. Is there really evidence that the size of the quake was smaller than we are being told?

3. Is there really evidence that Israel created Stuxnet?

5. If there is evidence that Israel created Stuxnet, what is the motive for using it at Fuku? Did they also have the opportunity?

6. Does the evidence support that it was used at Fuku?

7. Could such a thing as a "camera bomb" exist? Could it have been smuggled in and is there evidence that such a device could have been used?

This is not about doing another "Joo bashing". Looking at this from a purely logical and political perspective keeping race and religion out of it. Israel is a political state and would it have acted in this manner?

Personally, I would like to see his arguments debunked because I am very skeptical, but many crazy ideas have later been proven correct.

I don't think this man has been given the courtesy of a proper debunking.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Tepco uses high end security and reactor monitoring cameras from Israel. Thermal capabilities are just the start of it, we've seen absolutely nothing from them because they'd be damning most likely. The cameras also require installation, testing and therefore access to some offline servers and computers by the Israeli experts, all way too easy. Japan was silly to allow access if the Iran co-operation allegations are true. Stuxnet would have been simple to plant during routine work, meanwhile it would be able to easily exacerbate many situations. To install those cameras and test them would have most likely required some access to the server room where the camera data is recorded and databased. At the best case scenario it could be accomplished within a short period of time, a well programmed flash drive plus lazy admins and things can be altered very quickly. Siemens microcontrollers were specifically targeted.

I was jack of all trades IT tech specialising in laptop hardware repair at a large institution. It's a ridiculous amount of access that you may require over time, to just about every possible floor area, computer or crawlspace, often troubleshooting, networking and installing devices e.g. camera cables or wireless antennae. We have to work on everyones' equipment and often without any supervision, from the cheif to the caretakers, trust plays a big part.

The Japanese also stated that the quake mechanism was highly unusual, a map showing four seperate contributing areas was shown on nhk stream tv. I'd say possibly scalar tickled but I can't proove it.
A nuke is pretty easy to detect regardless of reactors melting down, especially considering there is a large american base nearby.

2c.



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