reply to post by JBA2848
In the US the only speech that is restricted is when you are inciting direct violence. Or directly threatening someone’s life.
Laws prohibiting hate speech are unconstitutional in the United States, outside of obscenity, defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words. The
United States federal government and state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech.
The "reason why ﬁghting words are categorically excluded from the protection of the First Amendment is not that their content communicates any
particular idea, but that their content embodies a particularly intolerable (and socially unnecessary) mode of expressing whatever idea the speaker
wishes to convey." Even in cases where speech encourages illegal violence, instances of incitement qualify as criminal only if the threat of violence
is imminent. This strict standard prevents prosecution of many cases of incitement, including prosecution of those advocating violent opposition to
the government, and those exhorting violence against racial, ethnic, or gender minorities.
Under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, employers may sometimes be prosecuted for tolerating "hate speech" by their employees, if that
speech contributes to a broader pattern of harassment resulting in a "hostile or offensive working environment" for other employees.
In the 1980s and 1990s, more than 350 public universities adopted "speech codes" regulating discriminatory speech by faculty and students. These
codes have not fared well in the courts, where they are frequently overturned as violations of the First Amendment. Debate over restriction of "hate
speech" in public universities has resurfaced with the adoption of anti-harassment codes covering discriminatory speech.
That is why those jihad websites can be pulled, because they are directly coordinating and advocating violence, not just inciting violance.
Anything less than that, then it’s fair game.
If the KKK wants to stand outside the capital and tell everyone how all the non whites need to be deported. Then there is no problem. If they want to
talk about how all non whites should not be allowed to have children. Then there is no problem. They can burn crosses all day long. Just as long as
they are on their own property, then everything is perfectly fine.
Over in Europe, saying such things will get you fined, or put in jail.
The population still harbors such resentment, but they can’t express it. The fact that they can’t express it, angers them more, because they feel
that the government has turn traitor. The government allows the other people to do what they want, with blessings, but they don’t dare to even say a
word about it for fear of the government coming down on their necks.
That policy breads resentment and hate.
People from Europe talk about how the US is unrefined and brutish. How the population of the US is evil and despicable for the things they say. They
don’t hear such things from their own country, because people are not allowed to say such things. That gives the population a false sense of
superiority. Those same people are over there, just as they are over here. They just can’t voice their opinion, so the anger is bottled up inside a
large portion of the population. The bottle can only hold so much before it explodes.
You have to have an opens system that allows anyone to redress grievances.
That is all people like him are looking fore. The government doesn’t allow the opposition to be heard. When you control the discourse, then you
control the results.
That same mentality shows up on the board on a daily basis. When ever someone mentions specific religions, then everyone jumps in and starts calling
them “racist” and “right wing activist”. They do that to try to prevent the person from voicing their opinion. No mater how right or wrong
that opinion is. They don’t even want the subject to be brought up in the first place. That is the method that the progressives have taken to in the
US because they can’t directly outlaw the person from saying that in the first place. So they just brow beat them into silence. People have taken
notice in the US. That type of activity is one of the things that has spurred the backlash against the left in this country.
But.. in Europe, The backlash is even outlawed, so that even build more anger. It’s a never ending feedback loop that will build until everything