Socialist Party of America Releases Names of 70 Democrat Who Are Members

That blog that the OP "sourced" to, cannot be taken seriously as it is CLEAR right wing propaganda. Anyone who associates Nazism (or fascism in general) and Socialism, does not know the meaning of either word. I'm pretty fed up with the pandering to the right in this country, the GOP is seeking to destroy the middle class and they have voters, voting against their best interests, its sick. And this site has gotten even worse.

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The right has been doing this for years. After the Nazis were defeated they needed a new enemy and they just reworked the same propaganda they used against the nazis to be used against socialism and communism.

reply to post by Vitchilo


WOW

i mean WOW

but not surprising...
i am waiting for all of the government to admit that they are socialists

Hoax:

This morning, the website Blue Collar Republican has planted the Soviet symbol of the hammer and the sickle next to a claim that Rep. Steve Cohen is one of the “Congressmen who are members of the American Socialist Party”. The cited source for this claim is Gateway Pundit at the fundamentalist Christian website First Things, who declares:

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.

Let’s fact check this claim.

1. A check with the official list of registered congressional caucuses shows that there is no congressional caucus in either 2009 or 2010 containing the word “socialist,” “socialism,” or any other variation on the word “social.” The supposed Socialist Party of America Caucus does not exist.

2. The “Socialist Party of America” has not been in existence for 38 years.

3. The list of the supposed 70 members of the non-existent Socialist Party of America’s non-existent caucus is an outdated copy of the membership of the Congressional Progressive Caucus as it stood in fall of 2009.

Conclusion: the claim that “The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus” is untrue on multiple counts.

To the extent that websites propagating this claim are aware of these facts, they are participants in a hoax.

thatsmycongress.com...

Wah Wha Wha...

Edit: to add that not only is this a hoax, but a recycled hoax from 2010.

Originally posted by SG-17
Welfare states are a good thing that every nation should strive to become. It is one step closer to true egalitarianism.

May have already been said, but I doubt it. Socialism is not the welfare state. If profits from what we produce were more fairly distributed, then welfare would not be necessary.

Socialism is the workers ownership of the means of production. It has nothing to do with government handouts.
In other countries they call it national healthcare (UK NHS, National Health Service) which is a more accurate term. Government owned is nationalism, not socialism. It's just a confusion of terms.

Socialism is an economic system that requires no government, or state system. If there is no government there can not be government handouts.

Anarchism supports a socialist economy and was referred to as 'stateless socialism' by Mikhail Bakunin, known as the father of anarchism. Anarchism is also known as 'Libertarian Socialism'. Socialism without government or state.

The right has politicized the term in order to confuse you, and coerced you to support a system that is not in your best interest. The same reason they stole the word libertarian from the left.

Remember the left means less authority, the right more authority. That is why on the extreme left you get Anarchism (no authority), and on the extreme right fascism (extreme authority).

The right being less government is a lie, except when it comes to the owners of the means of production. who have their own version of national welfare, corporations, and want less government intervention in order to exploit more people and resources at our expense.

Ya'll know what man?

I'm dang sick and tired of people, "my way is the best way", right, yeah ok where do I sign up? Got to be kidding me. And you people swear by it too. AND won't even objectively look at alternatives, AND, to top it all off, you come to the one place where there is supposed to be learning and intelligent debate, ATS. This is my home away from home, or used to be, now I gotta listen to joe shmo scream at me that i'm wrong instead of doing some actual objective research and realizing he's partially wrong just like every D--- body else, me included. At least i know a bit about ALL the parties. I have tried to reasonably and objectively look at all the sides before choosing.

Progressives- " hey, my underwear don't stink!"

Republicans- " hey, my underwear don't stink!"

Democrats-" hey, my underwear don't stink!"

Liberals-" hey, my underwear don't stink!"

Socialists-" hey, my underwear don't stink!"

Liberals-" hey, my underwear don't stink!"

But there is for dang sure a stink that can't be nothing else coming from Washington.

------------------------NEWS FLASH-----------------------
------------------ALL YA'LLS UNDERWEAR STINKS.---------------------------------



Geniuses, one and all, let me tell you something,


Progressives- Stay out of my wallet, it's my money, I worked for it. Don't like it? Do my job better or cheaper, then it's not my money, THEN it's your money, give it to an overblown, wasteful bureaucracy if you think thats best. LEAVE ME ALONE!

Republicans- Stay out of my bedroom,it's nunya, remember that one? Don't like who i'm banging? Don't stare into my bedroom! Look the other way! You can't legislate morality. And I won't laugh at your overpriced plaid suit in return,right? LEAVE ME ALONE!

Democrats-Look, I ain't saying all your ideas are bad, but yeah, ya'll have come up with some of the most hairbrained schemes I ever heard of, oh, need I say California, what a dismal failure that was, good thing the progressives STOLE money from other states(PEOPLE) and bailed you out, MAN, PLEASE, FOREVER MORE, DON"T WRITE NO MORE LEGISLATION. PLEASE. matter of fact ya'll should try repealing about 29,000 laws over the next four years. that ought to be about 1% of the idiotic, over-worded, lawyer speak, lie-cheat-deceptions laws, huh?

Liberals? I don't even know where to start with this hogwash, who thought this one was a good idea? If you're so in love with -whatever- gov program, how bout donate -your- money and time and quit taxing(STEALING) my dang money, where I might have enough to donate to my local, well-researched, (and non-wasteful) charities....how bout LEAVE ME AND MINE ALONE!

Socialist- Boy, here we go again.. this has got to be the worst of the bunch... socialism might work in a small loving community..more than a hundred people or so and guess what? Some dumbass retard gets power and you got another in a long line of MURDEROUS COWARD PIGS. Same for commies too. FOREVER MORE BE GONE AND EXIST NO MORE AND LEAVE ME AND MINE AND HUMANITY ALL THE ---- ALONE.


You know what would be so freaking awesome and yeah I COINED THIS TERM JUST NOW, all rights reserved.

------NO WORLD ORDER------

HOW BOUT YOU LEAVE ME ALONE AND FOREVER MORE YOU WON'T BE BOTHERED BY ME. I'll even hold the door open for you when we meet again.

And no I don't mind paying a fair tax, and by that i mean if you make a hundred bucks and have to pay twenty in taxes, AND I make a thousand bucks, dang, i pay TWO HUNDRED. Cool! That was easy. 20% paid in by all. Or whatever the amount is, you get the idea.(There goes another 92,000 pages of deceitful legislation) Congress could set the rate bi-annually staggered with the elections and that way, it's easily accounted to this party or last when the rate goes up.

Jesus , I need to take this reply to the rant aisle.

AND WHY NOT WHILE I"M ON A RANT------------

Pro-choice- are we? HOW YOU FIGURE IT"S OKAY TO KILL A BABY? I cannot ever get this one. And damn won't either. There is no way to rationalize this. Murder. People know what happens when you put TAB-A into SLOT-B. How bout pull out like 75% of the rest of us Neanderthals. Would you please consider adoption? oh, yeah, guess whats ALL in the damn way? YA'LLS PERFECT GOVERNMENT. You see where i'm goin with this, right?
I might be convinced of a day after pill, however.

Pro-lifers- i agree on your main selling point, that being no killing of babies, but damn, have you got to be a dummy freaking fundamentalist throwing bibles at people and cursing them to hell? how bout leave the cursing to god. He don't need your help. And I'm sure if he does, you won't have any question about whether or not HE said it or if it came from a humans mouth. You're preacher probably ain't no prophet.

Christians- How are you so sure you're right? I was raised Christian but the way ya'll try to force it down peoples throats is ridiculous. How bout humbleness? How bout forgiveness? LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER comes to mind. Is god not the perfect father? What makes a perfect father? Think people.

Muslims- How are you so sure you're right? Allah the creator god really told you to strap a bomb to yourself in order to make a religious point? I'm having serious doubts on this one, guys. What are ya'll?, gods rock-em sock-em robots? Think man. Don't try to blow me up and I won't drop bombs on you,right? how bout you bow to the east and leave me alone. I like talking to the Creator as a friend, ya know? If HE don't want to hear it or don't like me, how bout let HIM strike me with lightning? WE DON"T NEED NO STINKIN MORALITY POLICE SAYING IT'S OKAY TO BEAT A WOMAN BUT DON"T MISS PRAYER THIRTY-SEVEN TIMES A DAY. And another thing, if your god condones the mistreatment of females, well, I gotta say, that don't make any sense in relation to a caring, loving, creator.

Who have I missed?



LAG_SWITCHERS and CHEATERS, please do society (and mainly me) a favor, and firstly, dunk your gaming console in the tub, plugged in, while your sitting in the tub. It will all make sense after those steps. Do that now, and then come read the rest of the instructions.


Secondly, i can play black ops without wanting to crush my tv into a smart phone you cheating b------- and i better stop this one right here.

AND ONE LAST THING, I didn't get no soapbox to stand on, somebody needs to be fired.

I figured people might want to understand me a little better before going off in this direction.

I LOVE AMERICA! yeah, we messed up some stuff back in the early days (slavery, womens rights is all that comes to mind) We gettin it right. We'll get there ya'll, providing all the dummies will quit trying to take over. We the first country ever that had a minority elected to the highest office... ya know, maybe we should all work together and try to save this place. it is a grand experiment and is going pretty well so far, sorry slaves, but I never owned one, please don't blame me,I really don't hate you cause of color, I hate most of you because you are bungholes of the highest order. An that just generally speakin, tongue in cheek guys.

OK I'm a white male,35, south GA, married for FIFTEEN years and I have gorgeous little girl, Two and a half. I do believe in a CREATOR, now whether thats the god of the old testament or new testament or krishna or buddha or allah, I DON"T KNOW. And I ain't praying to the reptile god all my life only to die and find out it's vishnu, right.

Try being nice to people you guys, they may be the ones with the REAL GOD behind them, lol.


Yeah, thats all I got right now.

reply to post by Vitchilo


The list is originally from here..
www.scribd.com...

Where they cite it which you seemed to fail to do.

They cite
Fair use notice cited from Congressional Progressive Caucus

Which leads us to the identical list here

cpc.grijalva.house.gov...,71

It is a list of those in the "Congressional Progressive Caucus" Not the Socialist Party

These folks are members of the socialist party like the GOP Caucus are members of the Nazi Party.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


That was probably the most pathetic partisan rant I've ever seen on ATS. The thing I hate about Liberals the most is their agressive attacks against people instead of the issues.. you prove the point very well..

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by TheWalkingFox

 

That was probably the most pathetic partisan rant I've ever seen on ATS.

What's worst is that I provided evidence and reported to MODS that this is a hoax 6+ hours ago...as if it's a surprise, they haven't taken any action. I now see where they stand politically. Right leaning fools..or sell outs...you tell me site owners.

Jesus F'ing xist....I get more annoyed with this trash of a forum daily....I almost want to be banned....if only to save myself from the one-sided BS that consumes this (once respectable) site.

oops =)

Ok.. back on topic...

reply to post by Aggie Man


I hear ya, when I first came here... a little more than a year ago... this site was full of fun topics like the massive "Rome never fell" thread and conspiracies about... well, it's all gone from my memory now. Conspiracies other than OBAMA IS KILLING AMURKA *gnashes teeth, tears out hair, curbstomps liberals and homosexuals and hispanics and blacks and arabs*

I thought this was just a phase started by some GOP election-bots spreading political smut, but now I see that this site is crazier than TheWalkingFox said the right wing in general is.

reply to post by Rockpuck


It's very simple, really. You wanted to know what the right-wing in America is. I answered your question by illustrating the presidential candidates being fielded by the American Right. After all, these are the men and women that American conservatives feel best represent them, correct? Cain, Bachman, Paul, Pawlenty?

If you can't handle criticism of the candidates fielded by the Republicna party, maybe you ought to not discuss politics. If you dislike your preferred political outlook being associated with crazy people who honestly want to destroy our nation, well, maybe you should break away. Field better candidates, something, I don't know.

But you asked who the right-wing is. You got your answer... and your response to it is "herp derp I hate liburrrrlz" - Maybe I struck a little close to home.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
At least now you know who you voted for. But most of them really aren't ``socialists``... they are fascists... that is, they support big business (banks, etc) screwing the little people and stealing everything they've got.

edit on 21-7-2011 by Vitchilo because: (no reason given)

This is a rather confusing post.

Did you just give us a list of people, say they were members of a socialist party, point out that we should know that, then say they are not socialists anyway and that it does not really matter?

reply to post by Vitchilo


If this is true ?you better send proof out everywhere,thats a call for an ash kicken,local news,foreign news ect