'911 in Plane Site' - Has Anyone Seen It?, page 3

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reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 09:23 PM by HowardRoark

one more link
thewebfairy.com...

watch the video at the top of the page. You can see the "flash" as the nose hits the tower.

reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 09:25 PM by Janus

The Pod like Structures presented on the 9/11 planes seem too pronounced too 3D, for want of a better word, to be Shadows especialy in the moving footage. If they were shadows i would expect the shadow to move and expose the bottom of the plane, they dont do that, the Pod is still there all the way through the moving footage.
Why would the Electrical equipment blow BEFORE it hits the building as, from what i have seen so far, that is what happens. Believe me im looking for reasons not to believe that something strange happened to or with those planes prior impact but the Moving footage is very convicing.

The flash that concerns me is the one prior to the first impact, the flash most certainly happened before the plane hit.

[edit on 14-8-2004 by Janus]

reply posted on 14-8-2004 @ 09:37 PM by HowardRoark

Well there I have to differ with you. The footage certainly does not show the "flash" happening before the impact, it IS the impact.

Also the so called Pod does not exist. It is a trick of the light and shadow, that is all.

did you look at the airliners.net pictures?

Edit:

www.airliners.net...

www.airliners.net...

www.airliners.net...

The last one is the best for seeing how light and shadow can highlight the wing roots.

[edit on 14-8-2004 by HowardRoark]

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 04:02 AM by Janus

Originally posted by HowardRoark
Well there I have to differ with you. The footage certainly does not show the "flash" happening before the impact, it IS the impact.

Also the so called Pod does not exist. It is a trick of the light and shadow, that is all.

did you look at the airliners.net pictures?

Edit:

www.airliners.net...

www.airliners.net...

www.airliners.net...

The last one is the best for seeing how light and shadow can highlight the wing roots.

[edit on 14-8-2004 by HowardRoark]

Yes i did look at them, but why are the shadows casting the same shape from all angles not just from one? I agree that we will have to dissagree about the flash happening

as i said in an earlier post that perhaps the Terrorist detonated something in the cockpit before impact, that is a more plausable explanation of why it happened than the plane firing Missiles at the Tower.
After looking at the footage i dont go with the idea that the plane fired a missile at the tower, but i do belive that an explosion occured just prior to the plane impacting the first Tower and that there are some very strange Pod like shapes that are visible from multiple angles, a trick of light from one angle i can accept but when it occurs from different angles then that leaves me baffled. After all what are the chances that a trick of light and shadow can be seen to give the exact same shape from more than one direction. The way that the Sun would fall on the object, in this case a plane, would be different wouldnt it? So if the light falling on the plane was at different angles then you shouldnt be able to see the optical illusion from two differnt places, unless of couse there was something there in the first place. My logic may be off on this but ive been staring a the photos and footage for so long my eyes have crossed.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 08:25 AM by DaRAGE

ok firstly....fuel isn't located at the nose of the plane so the bright flash couldn't be fuel exploding...

I was thinking maybe because the plane was flying so fast, and it's got heaps of momentum and weight...the Kinetic energy of it striking the building could have purhaps been seen trying to release its self through the other metal parts...of the plane and it couldn't relase itself that fat enough and it just became soo dman hot aka the bright heat.... but i really really doubt that sooo.... it must be the start of something such as an explosiion....but what exploded? something bugged intothe plane already for it to detonate on impact....

also wtf is the thing under the plane? missile? extra explosive to help bring those 2 buildings down....??? That's al i can venture. Anyways. All that can be said is that 911 was definately a shifty day indeed and it wasn't just some normal plane hijacking...it was worse...others were involved...and it was planne dnad staged.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 03:56 PM by Janus

Ok i have just finished watching the Documentary,well what can i say? The foootage presented is very convicing. After watching it 3 times ive come to a few conclusions.
1) There is a Pod structure on the second place to hit, it can be seen from more than one angle for it to be an optical illusion.
2)The flash at the front of the first plane to hit happened before the the plane made contact.
3) There seems to be very little damage to the surrounding area infront of the impact area at the Pentagon, images of the Pensylvania crash show little debris but a lot of damage to the surrounding area, that does not seem to be the case at the Pentagon. Why?
4)there seems to be a strong case for some kind of detonation, or pulling, of the two WTC towers eye whitness reports from Firemen who were at the scene seem to bear this up.
All these four points are worthy of further study, i do not at the moment subscribe to the missile theory but that Pod was there for a reason. I do not think a Plane hit the Pentagon, but at the moment i have no real theory as to what did.Im going to keep on looking and see what else i can find. One thing i am sure of is that something is not right about the events surrounding the WTC attacks and the Washington one as well.
Anyone else watched the Doc and formed any opinions?

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 04:09 PM by Istvan

I think, there is something very strange going on around this whole 911, and the war on terrorism. There are too many questions to answer.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 04:40 PM by wolfpsy

Interestingly, Halliburton got the contract the rebuild Iraq without any bids being let out for the work (which is highly irregular in Government projects). As you know, VP Cheney was CEO of Halliburton prior to being VP.

Sources:

www.commondreams.org...
www.cnn.com...
www.independent-media.tv...

You may remember Cheney's "# You" to a senator on the floor of the Senate...

www.cnn.com...

this was in regard to the Halliburton connection.

WAKE UP PEOPLE... it is about power, money, oil, and the NWO fascist agenda.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 04:48 PM by slank

Imagine we invaded two countries, killed thousands of our own and others, for who knows what reason. If this is true there are some VERY sick people out there.

1) What about the Insurance companies, did they know? Certainly they are going to look very carefully before shelling out a multi-billion dollar settlement.

2) Where are the actual passenger planes?

3) What do you think the repercussions [economic, social, political] would be if the general population knew?
.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 06:55 PM by justyc

i have watched it & for me, the most interesting thing i have yet to have seen mentioned anywhere else is the footage (apparantly only shown on tv once) of BOTH towers still standing & on fire with the wind blowing the smoke in one direction. What exactly then is the HUGE dust cloud which reaches almost half the height of the towers & where did it come from? I think everybody sceptical or not should watch this film just for that one bit of footage alone because i have never seen or heard of it before & it certainly makes you go hmmmm - VERY odd.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 07:24 PM by 1amc

I think the cloud you are refering to is bldg # 7.

Respects,

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 09:00 PM by SuperKyle

Sorry I'm coming in late on this one, can anyone tell me where to download the video at?

Also, you can tell just by looking at George Bush's face when he is told on 9/11 that he knew nothing. Not even Reagan could have acted that shocked and in awe.

As far as a conspiracy, many of the Conspiracy Theorists on this board are starting to make me believe that there is something more in control, but I doubt it.

The only reason anybody thinks Bush knew is because people thought the administration knew about Pearl Harbor so they relate the 2.

Please let me know where I can download this.

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 09:36 PM by 1amc

Please let me know where I can download this.

www.thepowerhour.com...
www.letsroll911.org...

Respects,

reply posted on 15-8-2004 @ 10:01 PM by judge

Originally posted by Sauron

27. September 29, 2001 - The San Francisco Chronicle reports
that $2.5 million in put options on American Airlines and
United Airlines are unclaimed. This is likely the result of the
suspension in trading on the NYSE after the attacks which
gave the Securities and Exchange Commission time to be
waiting when the owners showed up to redeem their put
options.

I spent several years as an option trader for a large investment bank/broker and I am not sure what this means. Were the accounts held in false names?

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 12:19 AM by mbkennel

Probably it means that the money gained by exercising the put, or the short position it would induce was not ever cleared, and nobody ever collected the funds out of the account.

My guess: it was somebody who had contacts in the jihadi community or had some knowledge, but wasn't directly involved with the plot. They thought that they could make a fast buck out of it.

After the event, and seeing the catastrophe, and realizing the Americans' desire for revenge, they decided that it was better to not collect the dough, especially that all the accounts would be scrutinized and frozen.

Perhaps they heard that "United and American airlines planes would be hijacked", not knowing they would destroy the WTC and shut down Wall Street and all the markets.
They were thinking of an ordinary hijack, a quick short-term drop (with the hijacking), but no closure of markets, and they'd make their money and scoot.

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 01:21 AM by justyc

Originally posted by 1amc
I think the cloud you are refering to is bldg # 7.

building 7 didnt collapse until many hours after both towers did so it wasnt building 7

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 03:53 AM by Janus

Originally posted by justyc
i have watched it & for me, the most interesting thing i have yet to have seen mentioned anywhere else is the footage (apparantly only shown on tv once) of BOTH towers still standing & on fire with the wind blowing the smoke in one direction. What exactly then is the HUGE dust cloud which reaches almost half the height of the towers & where did it come from? I think everybody sceptical or not should watch this film just for that one bit of footage alone because i have never seen or heard of it before & it certainly makes you go hmmmm - VERY odd.

I wondered about that as well, the reason i didnt mention it is because i have no idea what it could have been. But you are right that plume of smoke is one of the greatest mysteries of that awful day, thefootage was only shown once and i can find no reference to it in the Official news accounts. If anyone has any links to other sites that disscuss this could you post them here please? id like to see what kind of thories people have come up with about it. Bearing in mind that no buildings had collapsed at this time something major must have caused that plume of smoke, and for it to have gone unreported is very strange.

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 09:17 AM by electric squid carpet

The event that really jolted me was when bush told the world after 911 took place "You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists". That kinda made me think twice about what really happened.

I watched the movie and it was mostly describing things ive allready read about online, its good to see this subject is finally hitting TV stations and movie releases though.

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 09:35 AM by Ouroboros

Just watched it.

Interesting, and has presented much I have read/seen before in different places in one package. Recommended.

While there is much I have seen, there is enough to warrant those interested to procure a copy by any means. I'd suggest www.suprnova.org.

reply posted on 16-8-2004 @ 03:14 PM by Janus

Ive been thinking about the collapse of the Towers. A lot of people have been reported as saying that the Towers came down as though they were demolished by explosives. Well what if the explosives to do that were there from the very beggining? What i mean is what if they were installed not long after the Towers were built?
What if they were put in as a device to demolish the Towers in a safe way if something catastrophic happened? If you have two towers that are both over a 1000 feet tall in the Middle of the commecial district of Manhatten wouldnt it make sence to have a way to safely demolish those Towers in safe way to stop even more damage and loss of life in the surrounding area if something that threatened the structural integrity of the buildings happened?
What if someone panicked and pulled the switch too soon?Before the evacuantion was finished.
A lot of what ifs i know, but its just something ive been mulling over in my mind.

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