I've been very interested in hydrogen fuel, especially since the more exotic materials have been replaced by simpler ones, ie. readily available, and
nontoxic, citric or baking soda can be used as an electrolyte.
And there are differences between using stainless steel mesh, to make the cells, or coils. I'm still searching for the coils.
Expert Village has a good series on this. I'm not 100% sure I got them all in order, but they all describe in short videos, good info, so it doesn't
One of my favorite workhorse, alternative energy guys is GREENPOWERSCIENCE, and they do wonderful videos.
Many green businesses, and neighborhood, back yard garage projects with teenagers, spreading the knowledge hands on, could be done off their videos.
I've initially included both.
Hydrogen fuel can power vehicles, lawn mowers, fridges, barbecues, whole houses, crafts. Tesla coils, electro magnetic and overunity, based on how
earth rotates is my #1 favorite, and this is the close second.
My sons and I are going to working on this shortly.
You can convert a mountain bike, and pull a load with a small trailer attached, very convenient.
First the GREENPOWERSCIENCE one. Next post the expert village series.
HYDROGEN GENERATOR DIY POWERFUL GAS ALTERNATIVE HHO WATER MAKE HYDROGEN
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Well I started this thread based on researching posts for a new one, using aluminum to produce hydrogen. That got me researching.
Bob Lazar's video, about his hydgrogen system for his car, showed that the element used was used in thermal nuclear weapons, so classified though
harmless, and so he had to build his own particle accelorator to create his own. He also said that one days funding for Iraq could ensure everyone
But I recalled, Japan had been demonstrating mountain bikes with hydrogen fuel and the cute little bottles on the bike, also they'd demonstrating
solid state holography, prior to their big "disaster".
Its not dangerous, or relatively low. Gasoline, thats dangerous! You have to design it so the lid pops off with a valve. Hydrogen is nontoxic and
making sure you used the nontoxic electrolytes in the purified or distilled water is also highly recommended. Lye for example is a good transmitter
but if this breaks, you're hand will be eaten away.
Hydrogen fuel can power vehicles, lawn mowers, fridges, barbecues, whole houses, crafts. Tesla coils, electro magnetic and overunity,
based on how earth rotates is my #1 favorite, and this is the close second.
...so can the electricity used to make the hydrogen.
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I have a custom built shop (LINK) and have messed with this on and off. You cannot liberate enough Hydrogen or
oxygen to justify the energy in. This is not to say you will be unable, just to say that if you do, electrolysis by the standard method is too
inefficient. Greater minds than us have tried and succeeded to some degree. We don't have access to the required materials. Unless you have money,
Walmart and the hardware store will not be enough.
I left my job as a motor mechanic and went to university to study mechanical engineering because of a system like this.
Unfortunately, it is a fail as far as powering a vehicle is concerned.
The energy required to convert the water from a lower energy state(h2o to a higher energy state(h & o) makes the system energy intensive with little
15 amps at 12 volts is a big drain on a system that would barely power a 15cc motor.
This is why car companies are researching hydrogen cells to power electric motors instead of powering internal combustion engines. Internal combustion
engines are at best 45% efficient in a 2 stroke and usually ride around the 30% efficient mark in a four stroke engine. Take into account the loss due
to heat and resistance in the wiring to power the electrolysis "splitter" and suddenly the hydrogen powered internal combustion engine begins to need
more energy than its petroleum counterpart.
There is a plan floating around the internet for a system that is supposed to power cars based on this principle but I've never found anyone who had
managed to get it to work. From memory the plans were put out by the lead singer(it might be the guitarist) of a popular 80's band called Rampage. -
Its still online- here is a link to it
I've showed the designs to many an engineer (one is my cousin who is an engineer for Nokia and is so far smarter than anyone I've met in my life that
it isn't funny) and all of them could show mathematically(and explain exactly why) that it wouldn't work.
Its a pity that I didn't seek more learned opinions before I had accumulated the parts to build it as I would have saved myself a lot of money, time
Live and learn
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They are often used in vehicles. Of course, the main problem is that hydrogen fuel cells can be expensive on the market, so if you have a lot
of experience already working with electric devices and machines that use gases, then you may be interested in learning how to make one on your own.
This article will address the wiring aspects of building a fuel cell, which is a surprisingly simple task that you can do in your own home with a
minimum of materials.
creating hydogen_video5 (Stan Meyer)
Pulsing Hydrogen Fuel Cell while Charging Battery (OU)
pulsing coil 5 volt spikes, and getting spikes that are about 13-14 volts spikes and charging the battery, and getting production out of the hydrogen
Its an interesting video. I don't like the guys name: sirHOAX, so my question is, is he doing slight of hand, because it seems to work. He
could just be being a cheeky brat with his name.
This would be worth trying. He describes a bit of his setup, but as one reply suggested, he'd like to know the coil setup.
I don't see the point to the step up transformer, the coil/diode/capacitor combination should step voltage up if fed at its resonance
frequency. Energy should keep flowing into the arrangement regardless of how small the peak voltage of the power source is in comparison to the
water cell voltage
lvildos 2 years ago
There has to be a form of decoupling. The magnetic core of the transformer does this. It clearly will put out more energy than input by means of
tracking frequency relative to input.
Its obvious if you start the cell cold with the step-up transformer in place. It pulls high amps, and low voltage. Once tuned, tracking, etc. The
opposite happens. The transformer is needed. Once locked-on, resonance gets caught in the magnetic field of the xmfr+tube-cell. --S--
sirHOAX 2 years ago
I have no idea if these directly relate, but thought they could be included to give some basics, on coil winding.
How to Wind a Bifilar Coil
Trifilar Coil Jig
Building a Tri-Filar Coil for the Bedini Motor
Earth Battery Motor Continuously Running
These earth batteries are added because experimenting with supplies, say in a roughing it kind of situation, may add to new uses, new solutions.
I don't know, but to me alternative currents are the most useful, ie. coils, which I found a few videos. You know that disclaimer, don't try this
at home kids! Well we're going to try this at home! I have a thread about earth spin in my signature by the way. However, earth batteries,
stirling engines, ie. the first video in the OP was made by a company that demonstrates many alternative energies, from alternators in vehicles to
parabolic dishes, to sterling engines, bicycle tire generators also come to mind. The point is, think Clean. And go for overunity. Earth does.
for a second I thought this post said how to make a hydrogen bomb I was like what the hell that's not good lol
There are things that need thinking on. A friend, inside info, introduced an idea to me about tesla coils for example. The free energy
electromagnetic devices are being withheld for reasons of greed. You can't really get this into street crminals hands and endanger an entire city.
But there are very dangerous weapons that can be developed and made small, useable for street warfare even, that can be very hazardous to regions. We
have those weapons currently in the hands of Thugs as it is, corporate and black op kind. Some kind of planning would need to be used, if thats the
case, for some of the technology, safeguards, etc.
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Internet instructions on how to concentrate high levels of an explosive, odorless gas, using makeshift materials and instruments right in my own home
I dont see what could possibly go wrong!
Watch the videos, its not done in a harmful manner. Just remember everytime you do anything, be it soap making with lye, dying fibres for crafts,
chemicals for wood and metal working, welding, etc, you are taking risks, big ones, if you're not careful.
So far we have to be careful, from toddler stage up, or we can be injured. And learning how to do things carefully, safely is a life skill, I'd say.
Look, so far I've encountered those who've found the energy input to make the fuel more costly, though overunity potential is here as well.
Basically, if you have to add a few low cost things, like a few barrels full of mineral rich soil, to make stacks of earth batteries on shelfs, add a
stirling engine, parabolic/fresnel mirror for sunny days, and a few bicycle tire windmills or other designs, to run your shop, whats the problem?
Think no or low cost even if you're not striving for overunity.
As for the mechanics part, and whether to boost your fuel efficiency or alter motors, I want to learn the right motors to begin with to eliminate all
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