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reply posted on 31-8-2004 @ 06:46 PM by senrak
Necros,

Did you ever post this link? If so, I've missed it.

www.freedomdomain.com...

It contains notes from that book that you think is so secret and informative (which has been available for over 100 years and is now in cheap paperback reprint form from Kessinger Publishing) I wish it was the whole book but alas, it's just part.

Is it really so hard for you to understand that what your posting isn't secret? McClenachan's book is considered a "Monitor" (which in Masonry is the exoteric --that means NON-Secret portions of the ritual) Why do you find it so interesting? There are TONS of new books out there that deal w/ the symbolism of the CURRENT rituals. Try "A Bridge to Light" by Rex Hutchens. It's replaced Morals & Dogma which is no longer being printed by the Supreme Council (yes, you can get a cheap paperback photo-copy from Kessinger)

Check out this link. Especially the one dealing w/ ritual. You (yes YOU) can buy "Forms & Traditions of the Scottish Rite) It includes several Scottish Rite Ceremonies, including Opening & Closing ceremonies of the four Scottish Rite bodies. You (yes YOU) can buy A Bridge to Light, or Heredom (the publication of the Scottish Rite Research Society which includes several old rituals...some even older than the one you keep quoting from) (By the way if you buy Heredom, be sure to check out Volume 11. One of my articles is in it and includes a ritual from the Ancient Toltec Rite a little known Masonic group) Sorry for the shameless plug but I'm on a roll.

www.srmason-sj.org...

Perhaps you should look here:


www.aasrvalleyofjax.org...

There's a synopsis of the various degrees of the Scottish Rite (the current ones...not from (ahem) "the book"

Echoing what ML said, what's the BIG deal?

I think I'll hook-up with Mirthful Me and we'll vandalize your toilet!

BWAHAHAHA


reply posted on 31-8-2004 @ 07:59 PM by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by senrak
Necros,

Did you ever post this link? If so, I've missed it.

www.freedomdomain.com...

It contains notes from that book that you think is so secret and informative (which has been available for over 100 years and is now in cheap paperback reprint form from Kessinger Publishing) I wish it was the whole book but alas, it's just part.

Is it really so hard for you to understand that what your posting isn't secret? McClenachan's book is considered a "Monitor" (which in Masonry is the exoteric --that means NON-Secret portions of the ritual) Why do you find it so interesting? There are TONS of new books out there that deal w/ the symbolism of the CURRENT rituals. Try "A Bridge to Light" by Rex Hutchens. It's replaced Morals & Dogma which is no longer being printed by the Supreme Council (yes, you can get a cheap paperback photo-copy from Kessinger)

Check out this link. Especially the one dealing w/ ritual. You (yes YOU) can buy "Forms & Traditions of the Scottish Rite) It includes several Scottish Rite Ceremonies, including Opening & Closing ceremonies of the four Scottish Rite bodies. You (yes YOU) can buy A Bridge to Light, or Heredom (the publication of the Scottish Rite Research Society which includes several old rituals...some even older than the one you keep quoting from) (By the way if you buy Heredom, be sure to check out Volume 11. One of my articles is in it and includes a ritual from the Ancient Toltec Rite a little known Masonic group) Sorry for the shameless plug but I'm on a roll.

www.srmason-sj.org...

Perhaps you should look here:


www.aasrvalleyofjax.org...

There's a synopsis of the various degrees of the Scottish Rite (the current ones...not from (ahem) "the book"

Echoing what ML said, what's the BIG deal?

I think I'll hook-up with Mirthful Me and we'll vandalize your toilet!

BWAHAHAHA


You can lead a Cowan to water, but can you make him read the current Monitorial? Only if you can sneak it onto "Psychiatrist's Digest" prescribed reading for paranoid schizophrenics list. I have to conclude that your endearment to your oft quoted tome reflects it's solitary status within your possession. Heed the scholarly words of Masonic Light (yes the correct spelling please, Masonic Lite is Mason beer, I of course being a oenologist. prefer Illuminati Wine) all has been revealed to you… over… and over… and over again.

p.s. Senrak and I need your Thailand address…


reply posted on 1-9-2004 @ 12:21 PM by Masonic Light
Originally posted by MrNECROS

I have copies of most of the monitors and of all the works I have combed through the one I quote most often is the most relevent and none of you have ever read it but continue this shifting sliding procession of one lie after another in order to convince yourself (you're not fooling anyone else) I'm barking up the wrong tree.


I would say that it is you who aren't fooling anyone. I have documentation for everything I've written, and have not only referenced it, but have provided all the links to where these books can be purchased. You, on the other hand, are fixated on one single book written well over a century ago by a guy who had never even seen the Pike Ritual; and what knowledge this book lacks, you simply have invented.

I like the new slant about using "The Camp" from the old degree purely for it symbolic and not its military meaning - I believe it is to represent the 14 significant degrees as I told you 3 or 4 months ago?
Did you finally get around to counting those flags as well, you seem to have a real problem when it comes to basic maths?


I have already explained the Camp in detail to you, so I see no reason to repeat myself. However, for those who may be interested, Dr. Rex Hutchens includes a full color fold out of the Camp, which includes all of its symbolism as well as a diagram of how each of the 33 degrees of the Rite correspond to the flags, in his Scottish Rite monitor "A Bridge To Light". Anyone who wants can order this book online and prove that Necros is a pathological liar simply by reading it.

The book may be ordered here for 10 bucks, and is the official monitor of the Rite in the Southern Jurisdiction given to all new members:

www.srmason-sj.org...

Fiat Lvx.



[edit on 1-9-2004 by Masonic Light]


reply posted on 1-9-2004 @ 06:33 PM by senrak
Originally posted by MrNECROS
I'm not trying to educate anyone -


WHEW! That's a relief! For a minute there I thought you were trying to educate someone.

the majority of my posts are to observe your in-group behavioural responses.


How are we behaving thus far? Are you going to make a full-fledged report in triplicate or is this just for your own entertainment?

I have copies of most of the monitors and of all the works


Now Necros...I seriously doubt you have ALL the works or even MOST of the Monitors. Each jurisdiction prints it's own Monitor. Do you have ALL 50 in the US? Not all states even allow a printed ritual, but some do. Do you have ALL of those? If so I'd love to have Arizona's because I can't seem to get a copy for my Masonic Library. Also, I seriously doubt you have the work of the Ancient Toltec Rite...and it's a legitimate Masonic group...so you couldn't have ALL of them. You certainly don't have a current 33rd Degree ritual because they're not printed either...they exist in manuscript form only and are closely kept. Even I don't have a current one...shucks


I have combed through the one I quote most often is the most relevent


I'm glad SOMETHING you do is relevant...your silly inaccurate posts certainly aren't.


and none of you have ever read it but continue this shifting sliding procession of one lie after another in order to convince yourself (you're not fooling anyone else) I'm barking up the wrong tree.


Barking up trees are you? Sounds fascinating...I could watch you do that for hours!

I like the new slant about using "The Camp" from the old degree purely for it symbolic and not its military meaning - I believe it is to represent the 14 significant degrees as I told you 3 or 4 months ago?


I won't comment on that as I haven't read the 32nd Degree for a while and wouldn't want to say something inaccurate (like SOME posters here...) I might sit down tonight and re-read it and comment tomorrow. Then again, I might relax and do nothing at all...

Mirthful Me, I'll send you my Thailand address via U2U but I'm only there during the last two weeks of Septober and the first week of Octember.


[edit on 1-9-2004 by senrak]


reply posted on 2-9-2004 @ 10:45 AM by Masonic Light
Originally posted by MrNECROS
To re-state the usual, Masonic Lite you haven't posted any text from Bridge to Light, (with its whopping 340 pages I'm sure it is the quintessential work on the Scottish Rite...NOT.) Magnus Opus etc..


If you think I've got nothing better to do than sit around typing text out of books for you, I would suggest you think again. I posted the link to those books not for you, but for people who may have been fooled by your lies: that you were drugged by Masons in your fictional initiation, that you are in possession of "real" Scottish Rite rituals, that Masons wear suits of armor, your denial of the fact that half of all Masons in the USA are 32° Scottish Rite Masons, that Buddhism is the world's largest religion and all Buddhist are atheists, etc. etc.; your lies have gone on and on.

Anyone who wants to take the time can order Hutchens' "A Bridge To Light", McLenachan's "Book of the Scottish Rite", Pike's "Magnum Opus", Blanchard's "Scotch Rite Masonry Illustrated", and Voorhis' "History of the Scottish Rite" for themselves, and easily discern your lack of knowledge on the subject. It's a no-brainer.


I have it on order but it is taking a long time to get here - I'm sure it will arrive though, our accquaintance Morgan over at FW said not to bother because it contains sweet FA but for some reason I gave you the benefit of the doubt.


I have no idea who Morgan and FA are, and couldn't care less. What I do know is that "A Bridge To Light" is the official monitor of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite for the Southern Jurisdiction of the US, and that it has replaced both Pike's "Morals and Dogma" and Clausen's "Commentaries On Morals and Dogma" in this capacity. End of story.

Fiat Lvx.

[edit on 2-9-2004 by Masonic Light]
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