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Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by babybunnies
China will not get involved in any war on a military basis.
Any action taken by China will be purely economic (crash the dollar) or cyber (attack US online capabilities)
US will be crippled before a shot is even fired.
Why do you think there will always be a 1 way attack?
People often forget that the SuperPower status has a meaning upto certain extent despite the economic turmoil.
Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
I'm sure many tried to avoid WW2, but Hitler was too psycho for that.
Humans get caught up in life. They get so stuck in it that they end up fighting eachother.
Republicans vs Democrats. Law vs Crime. White vs Black. Science vs Religion. Etc.
It's human nature. War happens and we're bound to have another big one eventually anyway.
Originally posted by nekomata111
Originally posted by Curio
I base this on a few facts. Fact 1: Israel can't live with a nuclear Iran - period. Fact 2: Israel can't do this alone, but the US population won't support another war without good reason. Fact 3: That's how Israel operates.
how can't Israel live with nuclear Iran, yet all other countries in middle east has to live with a nuclear Israel?
Israel existence will be a footnote in history books a few centuries from now, no smallish country surrounded by enemies lasted long, no matter the military power.
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
I'm sure many tried to avoid WW2, but Hitler was too psycho for that.
Humans get caught up in life. They get so stuck in it that they end up fighting eachother.
Republicans vs Democrats. Law vs Crime. White vs Black. Science vs Religion. Etc.
It's human nature. War happens and we're bound to have another big one eventually anyway.
If we have failed here to advance beyond the human animal, to think beyond ourselves and our imaginary lines in the dirt, our marked territories, our dominance over others, our racial, religious, ideological and cultural differences, then perhaps world war would be a good thing, along with a very large population reduction.
Let the games begin!
Originally posted by kwakakev
reply to post by hp1229
Why would Russia Oppose? They will make money selling their oil. Only thing they have coming from Iran is Money to build Nuclear Power Stations. China definitely needs the oil so they might support with equipment.
If Israel moves in on Iran, the US will be backing Israel. This means that the oil will go to US companies and Russia loses out even more, as with Iraq and Libya. There is also the balance of hegemonic power in the region and Russia has no desire to be boarder by Israel / America, same with India and China. The fracture of Russian western states to the EU is more than enough and this is being done mainly through diplomatic and not military channels.
Russia and Iran currently have a lot of trade and other agreements in operation, as all nations do. From my understanding, if Iran strikes first then Russia will stay out, but if Iran is attacked then Russia will step in. These are complex and dynamic relationships and I may be wrong, but would like to see some sources if this is the case.
Originally posted by EagleTalonZ
reply to post by camaro68ss
I don't know if there is any validity to this or not but I am personally sick and tired of war. People walk around living their daily lives in America, completely unaware or uncaring that across the globe people are running from bombs or holding their dead children. I know wars will always happen. Men with unchecked egos can't get their fill and people lack the courage to rise up against these arrogant men. Humanity openly accepts the fate we're quickly approaching.
As for Israel striking the match that brings on WW3 - it sounds about right. I'm sick of Israel counting on the U.S. to bail them out of every mess they get in. Why are we supporting that mooch of a nation in the first place? Aside from religious reasons we have no business giving money to ANY nation. Israel can defend itself. If it writes a check it's ass can't cash, it should be their own fault. America should NOT get involved. Let them learn all about cause and effect. I say forget em!
Originally posted by Astr0
The day I wake up and find that Israel has been wiped out in a multi country massive military strike backed by China and Russia I will poo bricks of joy.
A more two faced nation of totally self absorbed hypocrites (we Jews died in a holocaust and want 1000 years of self pitying whining sympathy but are happy to kill others in a holocaust to get our way)....
Feck it - Iran China and Russia for the win.
Originally posted by BlueGargoyle
Israel has shown great restraint with Iran up to this point. The threats made by Iran against Israel certainly leave nothing to the imagination about what their intent is once they have nukes. I fully support Israel's right to preemptively defend itself.
Think if it this way: If you have a neighbor two houses down that hated you and threatened your life almost daily. That neighbor starts to build a huge trebuchet in his backyard with the stated intent that he's going to throw a boulder and destroy your house. Wouldn't you sneak over in the middle of the night and burn the trebuchet down so he can't follow through on this threats?
I know I would.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
How are we as cash strapped as we are going to get involved with yet another conflict?
Not going to happen, 13 deadlines have come and gone without incident so why should this be any different?
Besides, continued and perpetual war in the middle east won't solve a thing and would erase all of the strives forward we have done over the last decade.
Israel's blood thirsty nature is now showing again and tell me again, aren't these people supposed to be "The Chosen Ones"? How could you say you are for God but continue to beat the drums of war? Hypocrites!edit on 20-7-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)