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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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Yet again you're completely missing the point.

It doesn't matter which bible you use, they've all been changed over time. Altered by various "authorities" all through out history.

The fact is your innital premise is flawed simply because theres no possible way that any bible(no matter which version) is the exact translation, and thus NOT the complete word of God. We can't even prove any of the authors of any of the scriptures were the actual authors. Its based upon assumptions and of course "faith". Revelations, your religions favorite book, was written by an old man in a cave, through "divine inspiration" which sounds and reads nothing like Jesus in the other 4 gospels. The actual identity of John of patmos has been debated for centuries, some believe he was John the appostle, many believe it was a completely different person.

Your bible is just one of the many versions altered by a specific religion to suit their beliefs.

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Nope - i did not missed the point. I answered your questions point blank - why v11 of Matthew 18 was not included in the NWT. It's the same reason as the other Bible translators have concluded. That it was added in much later because the earliest Greek MS didn't have v11.

This we can be very certain - in fact scholars agree because of the enormous amount of later MS were found (.

Of course since the other Bible translators would rather prefer to preserve traditions they retained v11.

The a few more verses that were added in but have been removed now from newer version.

But to me - the NWT is still the best translation out there. If there's one you think that can even come close to it by all means please let know.

Matt 18:11 is just one example and there's so many research done on this already.

Here's just one of what came up when I typed why v11 is missing.

www.neverthirsty.org...

So my main textbook is the NWT because of it's accuracy time and time again. Any text that is questionable on the other translations I verify them against the NWT. And the NWT always comes on top.




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Your version made Jesus God....

Jesus never once makes that claim, so your translation of the bible is in fact a lie.




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by edmc^2
 


Your version made Jesus God....

Jesus never once makes that claim, so your translation of the bible is in fact a lie.



You need to pay closer attention to what you write - because it will come back and bite you.

Here's what you wrote on page 20 (last post):



John 1
1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, andthe Word was a god.

KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


So who "made Jesus God"?

Compare it with the other translation so see who made Jesus "God".

www.blueletterbible.org.../1


In fact we don't believe on the Trinity.

notice: "a god" which is similar to - "divine".

{“If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified,” (John 10:35)}


Here's how it is translated on other versions:

1808 “and the word was a god” The New Testament, in An
Improved Version, Upon the
Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s
New Translation: With a
Corrected Text, London.

1864 “and a god was the Word” The Emphatic Diaglott (J21,
interlinear reading), by
Benjamin Wilson, New York and
London.

1935 “and the Word was divine” The Bible—An American
Translation, by J. M. P.
Smith and E. J. Goodspeed,
Chicago.

And of course:

1950 “and the Word was a god” New World Translation of the
Christian Greek Scriptures,
Brooklyn.

1975 “and a god (or, of a divine Das Evangelium nach
kind) was the Word” Johannes, by Siegfried
Schulz,Göttingen, Germany.

1978 “and godlike sort was Das Evangelium nach
the Logos” Johannes,by Johannes
Schneider,Berlin.

1979 “and a god was the Logos” Das Evangelium nach
Johannes,by Jürgen Becker,
Würzburg, Germany.


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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by buddha
maybe when the bible was first written is was an account of what happen.
but it has been re written hundreds of times. and altered.
have you seen the new one? its a mess.
and why only 4 of the 12 disciples?
you are a blind sheep.
the powers that be.
use religion as a tool to control you.
follow your hart. not a fake book.


Be careful with this advice of yours:


"follow your hart. not a fake book."


Because according to the "book" --


“The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it? 10 I, Jehovah, am searching the heart, examining the kidneys, even to give to each one according to his ways, according to the fruitage of his dealings.” (Jeremiah 17:9-10)

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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You need to pay closer attention to what you write - because it will come back and bite you.


LoL, actually i know exactly what i post, and nothing has ever come back to "bite me" and only one person on this forum has ever taught me anything when it comes to scripture.... and it wasn't you.



So who "made Jesus God"?

Compare it with the other translation so see who made Jesus "God".


Your religion, and many of the so called authors of the bible, but jesus did not make that claim. Nor did he say anything that proves him to be God. And yes, all of his words are truth.... so him not making the claim of being God, means he wasn't God.

It sees that something your cult and many other religions don't use is logic...


In fact we don't believe on the Trinity.

notice: "a god" which is similar to - "divine".

{“If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified,” (John 10:35)}


I didn't say he didn't have a divine quality, i do agree he was the son of God....why? Because he said he was the son of God.... but not "the" God.

This is a typical arguement from JW's and christians alike. You can't just take one verse from scripture and use it how ever it suits your belief system. Read the few verses before that one you posted, he refutes your claim of him being God right there.... thank you for proving my point by the way. You happen to pick the perfect passage. How ironic...

32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Right there he corrects the jews that want to stone him, and you....both for claiming he called himself God.

Notice theres a quesiton mark at the end of that passage.... meaning he didn't understand what they meant...why? Because he never once made the claim that he was God. I've been over this with people that know the bible much better then you... Either way believe whatever you want, but the fact is... he was not God.

What you're forgetting and what most people over look, is that this is not Jesus' words...

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.... Not his words.

Again, he never once made that claim... Your religion did, others religions did....even authors of certian scriptures did.... Jesus did not. So who is correct? The man that did not lie.... or his followers who didn't understand him most times?





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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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And how will you shoot this out with those bible-interpretators disagreeing with YOUR interpretation? And what has that to do with your basically 'objective' claim of infallibility?


It's not me who will decide - the Infallible word of God will decide. If what I say does not conform to the Scriptures then it's not based on God's word. So the standard is the Bible.




You have been 'in trouble' from square one on this thread.


Say's who? You? Where's the evidence?





Quote: ["like God is love and there's no badness in him or God can't lie."]

Which is amongst the assumptions you try to prove, not a self-evident axiom, demonstrated through circle-arguments.


No - not a circle-argument but the basis upon which to understand the Scriptures. Without this basic principle, one can be led to an incorrect understanding of God's word.




As you may be aware of, I have a similar impression of the OT character Jahveh as a schizoid sociopath.


Like I said - because of a pre-conceived ideas and not considering the basic principles you have a skewed POV.




I have an even better idea. Let's continue what we initially started with, before you skip direction for the umpteenth time.


You're the one who keeps changing it.




I don't operate with the bible as an authority, I use objective procedure. Shall we regress the reasoning-chain once more, and consider the implications of the word 'infallible' in a context of subjective vs. objective. With all respect, it appears to me, that you have no idea of what these two concepts mean.


Infallible simply means that the Bible the written word of God will not make a mistake. Whatever God pronounced or said that's IN THE BIBLE are never mistaken.

Be it - prophecy, human condition, facts of life, day to day guidelines, the future, even science - they all can be subjected for verification and they will always correct and true.

Take your best shot at it.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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It's not me who will decide - the Infallible word of God will decide. If what I say does not conform to the Scriptures then it's not based on God's word. So the standard is the Bible


So what you're saying is every bible is correct.... it doesn't matter what version you use...they're all Gods word

That would of course include the Koran, and the mormon bible...

All Gods infallible word... right?




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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You need to pay closer attention to what you write - because it will come back and bite you.


LoL, actually i know exactly what i post, and nothing has ever come back to "bite me" and only one person on this forum has ever taught me anything when it comes to scripture.... and it wasn't you.



So who "made Jesus God"?

Compare it with the other translation so see who made Jesus "God".


Your religion, and many of the so called authors of the bible, but jesus did not make that claim. Nor did he say anything that proves him to be God. And yes, all of his words are truth.... so him not making the claim of being God, means he wasn't God.

It sees that something your cult and many other religions don't use is logic...


In fact we don't believe on the Trinity.

notice: "a god" which is similar to - "divine".

{“If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified,” (John 10:35)}


I didn't say he didn't have a divine quality, i do agree he was the son of God....why? Because he said he was the son of God.... but not "the" God.

This is a typical arguement from JW's and christians alike. You can't just take one verse from scripture and use it how ever it suits your belief system. Read the few verses before that one you posted, he refutes your claim of him being God right there.... thank you for proving my point by the way. You happen to pick the perfect passage. How ironic...

32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Right there he corrects the jews that want to stone him, and you....both for claiming he called himself God.

Notice theres a quesiton mark at the end of that passage.... meaning he didn't understand what they meant...why? Because he never once made the claim that he was God. I've been over this with people that know the bible much better then you... Either way believe whatever you want, but the fact is... he was not God.

What you're forgetting and what most people over look, is that this is not Jesus' words...

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.... Not his words.

Again, he never once made that claim... Your religion did, others religions did....even authors of certian scriptures did.... Jesus did not. So who is correct? The man that did not lie.... or his followers who didn't understand him most times?





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You need what I said, here let me quote again what you quoted from the NWT vs your favorite - the KJV bible:


John 1
(NWT)
1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, andthe Word was a god.

KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Just to make things clear:

Jesus has a "divine" qualities, a "godlike" qualities - thus the "Word was a god".

pay attention to the small letter 'god' - because this means that Jesus IS NOT The God - The Almighty as many Christian denominations claim. In fact they are mad at us because we don't accept the Trinity doctrine.

So just to be clear - Jesus Christ IS THE SON OF JEHOVAH God.

In FACT according to the Scriptures - Jesus the FIRSTBORN OF God's creations.

here's a link explaining who is Jesus:
God and Jesus



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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It's not me who will decide - the Infallible word of God will decide. If what I say does not conform to the Scriptures then it's not based on God's word. So the standard is the Bible


So what you're saying is every bible is correct.... it doesn't matter what version you use...they're all Gods word

That would of course include the Koran, and the mormon bible...

All Gods infallible word... right?



Of course it does matter because there's only one Bible: The Hebrew - Aramaic Scriptures (from Genesis to Malachi) and the Greek Scriptures (from Matthew to Revelation)

The Koran and the Book of Mormon are not the infallible Word of God - just like the Apocrypha.

A simple comparison between these writings with the Bible will confirm this.

Edit: It also matters which version you use because majority of the Bible that exist today retained the traditions of men.

For example - many Bible use the word 'hell' - and many believed this to be the "fiery hell" or "hellfire" - a place of torment for sinners. However there's no such literal place in the Bible and that teaching is contrary to what the Word of God teaches. So it does matter because if the version is not accurate then one will be lead to believe on UNscriptural doctrines.

Another - "immortal soul" - no such thing.

God the Son - not such verse.
God the Holy Ghost - no such verse

These are based on traditions of men.
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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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OP; you being Christian are you a KJV believer? Being of Jewish origin I have a Hebrew bible that is very different from all the Christian bibles I have come across. Texts, verses, and so on.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by ManOfGod267
OP; you being Christian are you a KJV believer? Being of Jewish origin I have a Hebrew bible that is very different from all the Christian bibles I have come across. Texts, verses, and so on.


Which KJV - there are many reversions of the KJV - is it the 1611 version? Or the latest?

I use it as a reference only for research purposes. But for doctrinal matters or matters of faith and belief - I rely on the New World Translation as it's the most accurate translation that exist today.

I'm confident on this as I've done many comparative studies and none of them can match it's simplicity and accuracy.

Btw - what Hebrew version do you have? I've always wanted to have one. Maybe you can recommend one.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by edmc^2

Originally posted by Akragon
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It's not me who will decide - the Infallible word of God will decide. If what I say does not conform to the Scriptures then it's not based on God's word. So the standard is the Bible


So what you're saying is every bible is correct.... it doesn't matter what version you use...they're all Gods word

That would of course include the Koran, and the mormon bible...

All Gods infallible word... right?



Of course it does matter because there's only one Bible: The Hebrew - Aramaic Scriptures (from Genesis to Malachi) and the Greek Scriptures (from Matthew to Revelation)

The Koran and the Book of Mormon are not the infallible Word of God - just like the Apocrypha.

A simple comparison between these writings with the Bible will confirm this.


Alright, i actually have no issues with your last post about Jesus being God, so i'll move on to this issue...

SO... the bible being the infallible word of God... Unargueable because it is always correct morally or other wise...

Now tell me, is this also the word of God?

1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell

Kill your stuborn child...

18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


Women and children arn't worth as much as men...

1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the LORD by thy estimation.

3And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

4And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

5And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

6And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

7And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

8But if he be poorer than thy estimation, then he shall present himself before the priest, and the priest shall value him; according to his ability that vowed shall the priest value him.


Murdering people for taking a census ordered by God...

1And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

2For the king said to Joab the captain of the host, which was with him, Go now through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan even to Beersheba, and number ye the people, that I may know the number of the people.

3And Joab said unto the king, Now the LORD thy God add unto the people, how many soever they be, an hundredfold, and that the eyes of my lord the king may see it: but why doth my lord the king delight in this thing?

4Notwithstanding the king's word prevailed against Joab, and against the captains of the host. And Joab and the captains of the host went out from the presence of the king, to number the people of Israel.

5And they passed over Jordan, and pitched in Aroer, on the right side of the city that lieth in the midst of the river of Gad, and toward Jazer:

6Then they came to Gilead, and to the land of Tahtimhodshi; and they came to Danjaan, and about to Zidon,

7And came to the strong hold of Tyre, and to all the cities of the Hivites, and of the Canaanites: and they went out to the south of Judah, even to Beersheba.

8So when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days.

9And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that drew the sword; and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men.

10And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O LORD, take away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.

11For when David was up in the morning, the word of the LORD came unto the prophet Gad, David's seer, saying,

12Go and say unto David, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things; choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.

13So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me.

14And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the LORD; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.

15So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men

Murder of 450 priests...


1 Kings 18:17-40:

"And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table...And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken...Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there."


more garbage....

10And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

11And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

12And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


I could site pages and pages and pages of this crap...

Do you truely believe this is Gods word?

Or perhaps people with agendas?




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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The Christian bibles in the book store are very different the Hebrew bible I got from New York. My mother's father is a Chabad rabbi. Since the book is very old I ordered another of Amazon.
Tanach (The ArtScroll Series)
www.amazon.com...
Judaism101 book recommendations
Go to the list of bibles and see what you prefer before choosing the same Tanach I ordered. The Hebrew language and translating are very confusing. I barley speak a few phrases.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by edmc^2

Originally posted by ManOfGod267
OP; you being Christian are you a KJV believer? Being of Jewish origin I have a Hebrew bible that is very different from all the Christian bibles I have come across. Texts, verses, and so on.


Which KJV - there are many reversions of the KJV - is it the 1611 version? Or the latest?

I use it as a reference only for research purposes. But for doctrinal matters or matters of faith and belief - I rely on the New World Translation as it's the most accurate translation that exist today.

I'm confident on this as I've done many comparative studies and none of them can match it's simplicity and accuracy.

Btw - what Hebrew version do you have? I've always wanted to have one. Maybe you can recommend one.


Unfortunatly my friend, the ONLY people that believe the NWT is the most accurate translation that exists, are people from your own church and no one else...

If we're talking about biblical scholars, or even your every day person that reads the bible... again the only people that agree with that statement are those from your flock...

Mormons believe they're version is the most accurate, muslims believe theirs is, christians believe theirs is...

JW's are no different then the rest of the religions competeing for "who is more correct"




posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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I've seen something similar to what you've listed and upon a closer look they turned out to be opposite of what's being portrayed - that is, the OT God is evil and the Bible is full of contradictions. I'm sure it will be the same with your list but I'll have to get back to them later as it's a long list.


As for "1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell"

I think you're getting confused here - your putting your own interpretation.

There's no mention of "hell" in the that verse.

here's the verse say:


KJV
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

© Info
NKJV
Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

© Info
NLT
But women will be saved through childbearing,* assuming they continue to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty.
Footnote:
* Or will be saved by accepting their role as mothers, or will be saved by the birth of the Child.

© Info
NIV
But women* will be saved* through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Footnotes:
* Greek she
* Or restored
...


There's no mention of "hell" - but women being "saved through childbearing" vs women teaching in the congregation.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by ManOfGod267
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The Christian bibles in the book store are very different the Hebrew bible I got from New York. My mother's father is a Chabad rabbi. Since the book is very old I ordered another of Amazon.
Tanach (The ArtScroll Series)
www.amazon.com...
Judaism101 book recommendations
Go to the list of bibles and see what you prefer before choosing the same Tanach I ordered. The Hebrew language and translating are very confusing. I barley speak a few phrases.


Thanks ManOfGod267 - I'll check them out.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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When the book comes in I tell if I like it better then my older one. If you have questions about Jews or the Jewish faith ask me!



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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My mistake.... heres what it says...

1 Timothy 2

9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Sounds very extremist muslim doesn't it....

No jewelery, no nice clothing.... women must be silent and obey their man. They can't teach.... Man always comes before women, not equal as Jesus clearly stated...

Come on man, wake up a little please....

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Unfortunatly my friend, the ONLY people that believe the NWT is the most accurate translation that exists, are people from your own church and no one else...

If we're talking about biblical scholars, or even your every day person that reads the bible... again the only people that agree with that statement are those from your flock...

Mormons believe they're version is the most accurate, muslims believe theirs is, christians believe theirs is...

JW's are no different then the rest of the religions competeing for "who is more correct"


Here are just sample of comments made by scholars who evaluated the NWT.


“The translation is evidently the work of skilled and clever scholars, who have sought to bring out as much of the true sense of the Greek text as the English language is capable of expressing.”—The Differentiator (Hebrew and Greek scholar Alexander Thomson).


Professor Benjamin Kedar, a Hebrew scholar in Israel, said:


“In my linguistic research in connection with the Hebrew Bible and translations, I often refer to the English edition of what is known as the New World Translation. In so doing, I find my feeling repeatedly confirmed that this work reflects an honest endeavor to achieve an understanding of the text that is as accurate as possible.”


The Andover Newton Quarterly of January 1963.


“The translation of the New Testament is evidence of the presence in the movement of scholars qualified to deal intelligently with the many problems of Biblical translation.”


But of course none of these comments from "experts" will matter if the New World Translation Bible is not able to stand under such intense scrutiny.

In fact many well recognized translations will not be able to stand if subjected to such intense sruitiny as the NWT was subjected to and is still being subjected to (year in year out).

As they say "proof is in the pudding".

(Note: the translator committees are not inspired by God or infallible - as such there's NO such thing as "Perfect Translation" or else there will be no need for revisions. As we increase our knowledge and understanding of the original Biblical words - thus revision is a norm - as long as the original intent of the words are preserved and a clearer meaning is achieved.)

For example - replacing God's Holy Name YHWH/YHVH/JHVH (Yahweh/Jehovah) with LORD changes the meaning of the name and muddies the intent of word. Or replacing the Hebrew word Sheol / Hades / Gehenna with "hell" changes the meaning of the word and introduces unscriptural traditions of men.

Here's just one example of the superiority of the NWT:


KJV - Psa 110:1 -
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


Which LORD said unto which Lord?

NWT

“Of David. A melody. 110 The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”” (Psalm110:1)



So are you prepared to subject the KJV Bible to same criticism as the NWT was subjected to?





later...



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by ManOfGod267
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When the book comes in I tell if I like it better then my older one. If you have questions about Jews or the Jewish faith ask me!


Thanks ManOfGod267!

Just two very important questions:

1) Will the Jewish Faith eventually start pronouncing God's name publicly or will this still be prohibited?

2) Why can't we use the most beautiful name in the Universe if it was mentioned more than 6000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures (alone)?

Your reply is very much appreciated.





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