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posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 05:46 PM
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I just want to live my life...and you would want to do the same.




posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by stancumans
I was talking to "chief of the lodge" that's a good way of explaining his job for a year right?


No. He's called the Worshipful Master. You'd know that if you were ever a Freemason. I don't know where you got that title from, but it is one that is never used by Freemasons. Yet more evidence that you are talking through your hat.



But one thing worried him, in all the time he was a mason, no one ever confided in him as to how one penny of the money was spent.


Oh no? As your so-called "chief of the lodge", he would have been directly responsible for picking one of the charities that the Lodge contributes to. Not only that, but every Freemason in the UK receives a charity news-sheet showing how his money has been spent. Not only that, but every Lodge receives countless thank-you letters from people who have received charity and these are either read out or posted on notice boards. Not only that, but every Lodge has a Charity Steward whose job it is to keep tabs of donations. Not only that but I'm an Assistant to the Charity Steward and I apeak from personal experience.
UGLE is very open to it's members about how it donates. Every penny is accounted for.


Pity me? Find out more about the organisation you are a member of.


I don't have to. I am a member and already know. You, on the other hand, never have been and never will be. I pity you because you feel the need to lie about others to serve a cause of hatred. Whatever your reason for hating, you have proven yourself to be morally reprehensible. I pity you, because you probably have no idea how disgusting your claims are.


Sort of expected some form of open mind here. You havent been harrassed by policemen for the last 3-4 years of your life where ever you go.


Neither have you.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by stancumans
Did you notice that sometimes the people who were invited over (outside of your lodge) were sometimes a little shady, and seemed to have a different moral code to the rest of us?


Quite simply. No.
Again you show an utter ignorance of Freemasonry. Visitors state where they come from. They are neither shady or different. In return, they are visited at their Lodge. I spend more time visiting other Lodges than I do in my own. Visiting is the life-blood of Freemasonry.

Yet again you prove false.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:17 AM
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Stan,
I've read through you're posts and I think said it before but your whole story bears an uncanny resemblance to mine, although you went into a Blue Lodge by the look of it.
Basically what has happened is that you were originally picked to join the Lodge but were probably showing signs that you would not take the 3rd Degree so they try to beat you to the punch and boot you out so they can "have some fun."
Also probably like me they couldn't find any real dirt on you so they tried to set you up for some but it never worked out.
Unfortunately this really pisses them off - they don't like "losing" (its all a game to them) so they just keep extending the game time and the playing field until they do.
If you manage to stay upright for over a year then you can find yourself on the receiving end of some ridiculous (like hundreds of thousands of pounds worth) overkill.
I remember during my time at the "second stage" of my indoctrination in a Masonic company that my line manager put the question to me as to why it was the company was willing to spend so much time and money on company entertainment days.
Every 3 months they had a "kick off" event, the real meaning of this was that anyone who refused to join would be drugged senseless then harassed and belittled by all the Masonic members of staff in a public event while the newbies and other profanes would all be walking around totally oblivious to what was going on.
This is the sort of thing that goes on in "higher lodges" - all in the name of "Group Bonding" and "Team Leadership"



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:11 AM
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The webpage and posts by StanCumans literally beggar's belief. Every active Mason on this board can tell almost instantly that you are a total fraud. Your language, descriptions, everything you say is slightly 'off.'

I don't know about anyone else, but i've certainly never heard the word 'inauguration' used in open lodge. Installation, yes. Initiation, yes. Hurry up so we can get a couple of pints in before the festive board, most definitely.

MrNecros also exposes himself as a fraud in his replies as he clearly does not see the glaring mistakes made by his 'quasi-brother.'

This is utter lunacy, you are either stark raving mad or a chronic, pathalogical liar.

Phew, that feels better.

HTMB

** A partially enlightened FC Mason in London, UK. **


[edit on 17-8-2004 by HeyThatsMyBike]



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by MrNECROS
I've read through you're posts and I think said it before but your whole story bears an uncanny resemblance to mine, although you went into a Blue Lodge by the look of it.


Come, come now Mr Necros. You should know your English masonry better than that. We don't have Blue Lodges - Craft Lodges, yes. But Blue Lodges? They're a North American phenomena.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by HeyThatsMyBike
The webpage and posts by StanCumans literally beggar's belief. Every active Mason on this board can tell almost instantly that you are a total fraud. Your language, descriptions, everything you say is slightly 'off.'

I don't know about anyone else, but i've certainly never heard the word 'inauguration' used in open lodge. Installation, yes. Initiation, yes. Hurry up so we can get a couple of pints in before the festive board, most definitely.

MrNecros also exposes himself as a fraud in his replies as he clearly does not see the glaring mistakes made by his 'quasi-brother.'

This is utter lunacy, you are either stark raving mad or a chronic, pathalogical liar.

Phew, that feels better.

HTMB

** A partially enlightened FC Mason in London, UK. **


Way to go HTMB, MrNECROS, AND stancumans felled in one post, and before being brought fully to Light (a bright future awaits you
). A few more posts like that and this old Shriner Monkey can retire...

Grizzled Veteran Monkeys, not just for Memorial Day Parades anymore...



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:35 AM
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Ah, I can feel myself being exponentially pulled eastwards here, many thanks to you Mirthful Me, I feel at home already!

Just wait and see what I can come up with when I rise a second time.......!

HTMB



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Leveller
But Blue Lodges? They're a North American phenomena.


Actually, "Blue Lodge" is a neologism -- it doesn't really mean anything except that it's used in contrast to the "Red Lodge" of RAM. "Blue Lodge" is certainly no different from the Craft Lodge -- it's the same thing.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by AlexKennedy

Originally posted by Leveller
But Blue Lodges? They're a North American phenomena.


Actually, "Blue Lodge" is a neologism -- it doesn't really mean anything except that it's used in contrast to the "Red Lodge" of RAM. "Blue Lodge" is certainly no different from the Craft Lodge -- it's the same thing.



Yes Alex, I know.
But no UK freemason ever refers to the Craft Lodge as the Blue Lodge. It's not a term that anyone over here ever uses and in all my time as an English Freemason, I have never heard it used over here.
In fact, I first heard the term used here on ATS and had to U2U a US Freemason (I think it was ML) to see what it meant.

If MrNecros was truly a Freemason, he would never use the term Blue Lodge (especially when conversing with another supposed mason). It is a totally alien description to UK Freemasonry.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 12:40 AM
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Dream on Leveller - it helps if you actually read the threads - I have never been in a Lodge, I refused to join at least 3 times before the message sunk in.
As far as the Blue/Craft somantics - grow up.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by MrNECROS
As far as the Blue/Craft somantics - grow up.



There is no growing up to be done on my behalf.
It's not semantics. It's a fundamental. No UK Freemason uses the word and it is not a word that you would ever hear in the UK.

As for your claim that you have never been a Freemason? I totally agree with you - you haven't. But you have made claims that you were a member in the past, so really your argument is yet again null and void.

You're a loser, Mr Necros. Plain and simple. Over the past few days, your logic has deteriorated and your accusations have become wilder and wilder. From poisoning you, to blowing up your toilet - really? Do you actually expect anyone to believe your fairy tales? You have no evidence of your claims whatsoever because none of what you have stated has ever happened.
Put up or shut up has been the cry a dozen times. A cry that you conveniently overlook every single time. If you could only prove one little part of your claims, you would be given credence here on a conspiracy forum by many. But you can't even do that.

Your lies are just the disgusting fabrications of a twisted little mind.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 06:03 AM
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I guess I'm really screwed.

I'm a Sheriff's Deputy, Master Mason, and a card carrying member of a Texas Parks and Wildlife saltwater fishing license.


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posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 10:50 AM
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How much detail do you want - I've posted heaps of it but its never enough - never is with Freemasons - I could send you a video of the whole thing and you still wouldn't give mind to it.
If I can get my website up, you can read my medical diagnosis, names dates and addresses etc...'till then you can wait - unlike a lot of the Masons in this forum I don't spend my life in here.

Why do I post here?
To get in touch with other people like myself who want to do something about this, unfortunatally for every person like me there are 4 or 5 Masons filling the room with hot air and BS.
If you people had any credability at all you wouldn't hang out here - this is a conspiracy forum, not a "we're not a conspiracy forum..." if you have nothing to hide you would ignore this place just like I ignore your nutbar offical forums.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 11:18 AM
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I just wanted to add that I am with Leveller on this one...

oh yeah, I'm really enjoying reading this too, it's better than the latest science fiction book that I have..

okay, proceed now..

thanks
sorry for the interruption...



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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The more of these mason-bashing threads I see, the more my utter amazement at the grace and forbearance of those masons who dutifully rise to the challenge grows by leaps and bounds. And you may indeed know a tree by the fruit that it bears, as a great teacher once observed.

Admittedly, I dont know all there is to know about masonry, and who knows? Maybe you do dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight? I think not.


But I do know light from darkness, and I sense no darkness in any of the true Masonic contributors I have read here.

However, I can say most emphatically that the same is not true of every contributor I have read. To them I say this: Remember that those who follow the ways of the Accuser do the work of the Accuser, and the wages are bitter. Be mindful of who you serve.

So, though it may seem a trifling thing, my hearty salute to the masons who endure so much punishment for what truly appears to be nothing more than a desire to commune with like-minded fellows, hoist a few libations in good cheer and help make the world a better place.

When that actually becomes a crime, give me a call.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 04:23 PM
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Majic, I have to agree with you here. I don't know any Freemasons personally but the restraint these gentlemen show here on ATS is nothing short of amazing.

I actually have no idea if these Freemasons are up to no good or not (my gut feeling says not), but I know that no one is trying to force me into joining and no mason has come around thinking they have the right to tell me what to believe or how to act, unlike some other orginizations we could mention.

10 respect points to the Freemasons for poise, forbarance, maturity in the face of attack by foolishness and hate.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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Hi,

Thought i would leave it a while to let people see just how the Masonic mind works. I am Stan Cumans and i have come in

under a different name. I wanted normal people to see how you guys would deal with critism and i have to thank you for your

replies.

www.murderingmasons.co.uk was closed down a while ago by your brothers. I was in the Greenhythe lodge in Kent but you won't

find me under thier listing as a second lodge shered the site when the Bexleyheath Cinema was burned down. I was a mason

there and the people there would remember me. Phil May was there at my time and he was the charity Stuard. He went on to

become the charity steward for kent. I am not going to defend myself to bunch of soleless idiots. i will tell you to look at

the coat of arms of a Freemasons , go to UGLe.co.uk they describe the two beings left and right of their arms as cherubs.

Take a closed look at the feet of the cherubs and tell me where the bible mentions cherubs with cloven hoof?

Freemasonry is the last great evil on this earth. They decide who's going to be promoted in a company. Many companies reach

a certain level and then if you want to go higher up, you have to be a mason, you have no choice except to leave that

company or join. Wallis, the building company in the Uk are just one of many. They are a registered charity in the Uk but to

pass the Ninth degree, you have to be prepared to kill to keep the secrets of freemasonry and if they do not realise then

they are even sillier than i thought. Seeing so much hate for someone you have never met is astounding. You gang up like a

bunch od bullies and that's exactly what you are.

You are scarred of open conversion and you are scared of me and that's why you react so.

I've written a book soon to be published which will warn everyone out there exactly what to look for when masons are ruining

your life and it lists a website owned by Freemasons that tells everyone how to get at someone you are not happy with. Of

course, if i had no evidence all of this would be futile, so read the book and find out what a totally evil organization you

represent.

"Blowing out a candle"

It's by Bruce Rutherford.

It lists every nasty trick you throw at the unsuspecting public and smile in their face while you do it.

And it's from your very own website, not anything i have made up.

I am not going to answer any of your ridiculous critisisms, who wants to change the mindset of the biggest biggots on the

planet? The book isn't for you, but to defend people who need protection from you.

I have names of course and the evidence to back it up.

It's going to be a hollow book without it.

Its' going to ask questions about this charitable organization of which you are part. Go to any other site ( except

scientologists who use many of your techniques like "Fair Game" to harass victims) and see if any other charitable

organization would react to critisism the way you have here.

Forgive my spelling, but that's all i want of your forgiveness. You will rot in hell which is too good for you. Read my

book, and learn about your true colors. You are satan's representatives on earth, your organisation started out so well, but

absolute power corrupts absolutely and now look at you. You even put out adverts for subscription " Bring out the excellence

in you?" Excellence? Bring out the C***!

Still, if people have read your poison, well and good.

But just as you have shown your true colors here, you will show your true colours on your own website, don't take my word

for it, read the book.

It won't be me attacking you, it will be your own words on your own page.

let your own words be your downfall, i am just going to help you by spreading your own words across the whole world.

Charitable organization? What on earth is charitable about you? Read your own site and weep!

I am laughing my head off here, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Goodbye!



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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Well , I was right. Mods, please edit this for length and silliness as I don't know how. I don't understand how an obvious troll got this far as the posts did nothing to "deny ignorance". I saw no moderator input at all. And many were one line posts, which as I was warned by a moderator , were verboten. Any answers there?



[Mod Edit - removed unnecessary quote & replaced with Reply To Tab]


[edit on 28/7/2009 by Sauron]



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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Why do all these crazies think that it's Freemasons??? Like, why do they latch onto Freemasonry in particular???

The thought of the Freemasons I know engaging in a massive campaign like the OP describes makes me laugh. They can barely run a 3rd degree raising without some small amount of comedy.



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