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The Rothschilds

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posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 12:06 PM
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It seems to me (I'm still a rookie here) , wether they are illuminati, masons, S&B, bilderburgs, whatever, all the money flows to, or through the rothschilds. They hold stock in the FED, and our govenmnet doesn't. They are located in a part of london, "the city", where there is no jurisdiction over them, they are literally indpendent. If there is a secret power, it must surely be connected to the $$$$........

from "the empire of the city", EC Knuth;

"The City" is an international financial oligarchy and is perhaps the most arbitrary and absolute form of government in the world. This international financial oligarchy uses the allegoric "Crown" as its symbol of power and has its headquarters in the ancient City of London, an area of 677 acres; which strangely in all the vast expanse of the 443,455 acres of Metropolitan London alone is not under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan Police, but has its own private force of about 2,000 men, while its night population is under 9,000.

This tiny area of a little over one square mile has in it the giant Bank of England, a privately owned institution; which as is further elaborated hereinafter is not subject to regulation by the British Parliament, and is in effect a sovereign world power. Within the City are located also the Stock Exchange and many institutions of world-wide scope. The City carries on its business of local government with a fanciful display of pompous medieval ceremony and with its officers attired in grotesque ancient costumes. Its voting power is vested in secret guilds with names of long extinct crafts such as the Mercers, Grocers, Fishmongers, Skinners, Vintners, etc. All this trivial pomp and absurdity and horse-play seems to serve very well to blind the eyes of the public to the big things going on behind the scenes; for the late Vincent Cartwright Vickers, once Deputy-Lieutenant of this City, a director of the great British armament firm of Vickers, Ltd., and a director of the Bank of England from 1910 to 1919, in his "Economic Tribulation" published 1940, lays the wars of the world on the door-step of the City.

they benefit from war, profit from hate, and control gold and oil.....it seems to me this is the root of what we are seeing in the news everyday.....




posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 01:51 PM
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the rothschilds are a VERY powerful family. one thing that has me puzzled is about 3 or 4 months ago they decided they would stop trading gold. i still havn't figured out what effect this has had and what it will mean.



posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 10:15 AM
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And they make great wine, too can anyone have it all?



posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 10:26 AM
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A good book on the RothChilds is this:

THE RISE OF THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD

Never in history has so much power been achieved through so much fraud and deceit. The great Jewish banking houses, of which the House of Rothschild was the premier and greatest exemplar, came to dominate the political affairs of Europe from behind a curtain of numbers, which came to be called High Finance. Corti's book documents the worm-tongued, fawning supplications of Jewish banking subversives as they sank their hooks of monetized debt into one European nation after another, using their financial power to start wars and then to profit by lending money to both sides. The Rise of the House of Rothschild covers a dark chapter in history that began in the 18th century, but which has not yet come to a close in the 21st, and indeed imperils the entire civilized world to this very day.

432 pages ----- Soft Cover




posted on Aug, 15 2004 @ 10:37 AM
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Exactly where I'm at, Radagast. It's money that makes the world go round, as they say, and who owns it, who prints it, who loans it.

The Rothschilds funded Adam Weishaupt. They helped form the Bilderbergs. They've loaned money to the Royal Families, and to Republics. If you follow the puppet strings up as high as you can, the Rothschilds seem to have quite a firm grip.

Vapor, I remember that too. I'd say it has to do with the completion of their aim of having a World Government, via the UN. The IMF is entrenched now, and the same for the World Bank. They have indebted almost every nation, and already have 2/3 of the world's gold. Now, they have aquired all that gold, the real valuable assets are being taken, that being land, estates, and even sovereignty over nations. I've noticed the price of Gold has been rising, and every little rise makes them exponentially richer, and thus the World Government exponentially more powerful.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 04:13 PM
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I'm also new to ATS.

When I was a child in school in the Visitation Monastery in Mobile, we were shown a film about the Rothschild Family. We were cautioned against dealing with any company on the long, Long list of companies which were owned by this family. They claimed that this bloodline was the sole link between the Golden Dawn, Luciferians (the first and what is held as true Satanists), the Illuminati, and the Free Masons.

The Rothschilds believed that money was as much a true "Power" as was Magick, and therefore set out to control all they could in order to seal their Powers. They are said to not be able to achieve High Magicks (as High magick is said to be dead on this plane, now), but their form of Sympathetic Magicks is unsurpassed.

I would have to say by looking at their holdings that this is an accurate summation of their abilities. I'm impressed, at any rate. They stand strong with nearly every leading nation indebted to them in real financial obligations and are nevertheless not suffering on any front for the indebtedness.

They can buy and sell most any governmental official they choose. They could buy or sell most any Government they choose; and if the papers are correct, from time to time, they have.

A Brief History of The Rothschilds

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[edit on 17/8/2004 by Elswet]



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 04:59 PM
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I would like to join this thread with some of the knowledge I have on this subject, now I think some of you have read my previous posts, so maybe you know where I stand on this!
To my knowledge the Rothschilds are descendants of an old kingdom living in Eastern Europe south of Volga Bulgaria, east of Hungary.
They are the old kings and queens of the land known as Khazaria who holds cities like Kiev, Kerch, Sarkel, Atil and Samandar. They had a battle going for them, they had to choose between Catholics or Islam, they chose and quite clever JUDAISM.
90% of all that call them selves Jews today are Khazarian Jews, they staged the holocaust and got a new country from it, feeding them all the conflicts they need to get on with their old agenda of world domination.
They hold positions like the World Bank, ADL and the entire Zionists in power in fact the Rothschild are the Zionists.
How come one family has so much power?
How come they call them selves Jews when they are Russians?
How come no one questions a place in Britain where the Queen of England has to bow and ask for permission to enter?
How come they can manage to erase almost all the knowledge of their former kingdom without the scholars of the world objecting?

I smell lizard breath!

Now I am not saying or having any problems with the Jews I dont have hate towards a single branch of our race.
They Jews should be even angrier about this than me; they are being misled by their own.

The saving of Jewish lives from Hitler is considered here as a potential threat to Zionism, unless they are brought to Palestine, when Zionism had to choose between the Jewish people and the Jewish state, it unhesitatingly preferred the latter.
David Ben-Gurion Dec 17th 1938

Baron Bilbo Baggins
Bilbo's Empire of the Neutral Zone


Life is just a bowl of pits.


BTW:They do own most western countries as USA, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Portugal declared bankruptcy, all this happened between 1928 and 1932!
Who are holding these countries together today? The World Bank!


[edit on 17-8-2004 by NeonHelmet]



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by NeonHelmet
...they staged the holocaust and got a new country from it...


It's odd you would say that right behind My post. My husband and I were discussing this very claim just last night. He was completely unaware that anyone would even bother to dispute the physical and photographic evidences of the Holocaust, much less claim it was a sham.

tsk tsk.

Unbelievable.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion regardless of how historically inaccurate and intellectually uninformed I find it. I've only just begun posting here.


I do realize, mind you, that the governments of the world have pulled off some major coups in the "public relations" department, but an entire world war? A "faked" Holocaust of that magnitude? I think not.

I was alive for the moonwalk. The one from the Apollo missions. Apollo what #? I can't remember. Was it real? I don't know. I watched it, as did the majority of the world at that time, on a black and white set with grainy reception and My mother and grandparents holding hands cuz they were xtians and they do hokey stuff like that. I was also somewhere around the age of 4, so I have no clue. What I do remember is that they believed. Oh yes. They believed. It gave them hope for the years upcoming that something good could come to us after all the years of war, police actions, conflicts, and 40 years of military duty contributed by My family.

But the Holocaust faked?
Not likely.

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posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 10:28 PM
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What if governments are not what you think they are?

What if the various Royal Families, and installed Republic leaders were related?

What if they were all borrowing money and buying weapons from the same group?

Would it change your perception?

If I loan money to Jim, am I in debt to Jim, or is Jim in debt to me?

The mass hyptnotism has been in full swing for a long time.

The League of Nations, the first attempt at World Government, was tried just after the Napoleon Wars (where were they getting their money? Both France and Napoleon).

The second attempt was after the Great War, but wasn't successful, so another world war was manufactured, and succeeded in finally establishing the United Nations, the World Government.. a front for the Illuminati, the rulers of the world.

Ordo Ab Chao
(Order out of Chaos)



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 10:37 PM
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I understand that these things happen. I understand that things are faked and hoaxed all the time with positive results. I understand what a good PR firm can do for a person (anyone see the Democratic Convention this year? It looked like an odd blend of Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver. I would not be surprised in the least if it was revealed tomorrow that those weren't even his children by marriage, or by birth...that they were actors!
)

I also understand that the Holocaust happened, was an actual event with real people who were brutally and systematically tortured and then killed.

[edit on 18/8/2004 by Elswet]



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 12:03 AM
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John "Hollywood" Kerry is the left-hand puppet, m'kay.
George "The Rock" Bush is the right-hand puppet, m'kay.

"NO! Wrestling is real! Make him shut up!"




posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 12:51 AM
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this is to the person who misunderstood the meaning of what i wrote.
I have not claimed that the holocaust did not happen merely that it whas staged by the Rothchilds so they could get their country.
I know for a fact that about 4 million Jews DIED in the holocaust i am not denying that.

Bilbo



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by NeonHelmet
How come no one questions a place in Britain where the Queen of England has to bow and ask for permission to enter?


Its wierd how no one has anything to say about ' The City'. WHO exactly runs this place? why have they got their own police force ' Peelers'. Why when you enter ' The city is it outlined by little crests of dragons holding the English flag?

My Dad visited a Rothchilds house last year. It was an open day to one of their MANY houses so him and a few other went for lunch. He looked around and came across a very strange satue in the garden. It had 4 birds on it and each was looking in North, West , South, East. Anyway I'll ask what exactly those birds were.

Also one wing of the house was open which wasn't normally open to the public. My Dad said as soon as he went into it felt like he was in another world. This wing was SO different from all the other wings. From the paintings to the 'specialised' items placed. I'll ask him for all the info again if anyone is interested in hearing it.

[edit on 19-8-2004 by 7th_Chakra]



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by 7th_Chakra

My Dad visited a Rothchilds house last year. It was an open day to one of their MANY houses so him and a few other went for lunch. He looked around and came across a very strange satue in the garden. It had 4 birds on it and each was looking in North, West , South, East. Anyway I'll ask what exactly those birds were.

Also one wing of the house was open which wasn't normally open to the public. My Dad said as soon as he went into it felt like he was in another world. This wing was SO different from all the other wings. From the paintings to the 'specialised' items placed. I'll ask him for all the info again if anyone is interested in hearing it.

[edit on 19-8-2004 by 7th_Chakra]


This sounds very interesting, I'm sure anyone here would be glad to hear more. Any idea what types of items and paintings he saw? And what would he describe that feeling as...was it just caused by the totally different scenery, or was it caused by possibly unknown forces?



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by stoneskull
Vapor, I remember that too. I'd say it has to do with the completion of their aim of having a World Government, via the UN. The IMF is entrenched now, and the same for the World Bank. They have indebted almost every nation, and already have 2/3 of the world's gold. Now, they have aquired all that gold, the real valuable assets are being taken, that being land, estates, and even sovereignty over nations. I've noticed the price of Gold has been rising, and every little rise makes them exponentially richer, and thus the World Government exponentially more powerful.


About the world govt.

I had just read this Text of a lecture given to the Royal Society of Arts, and printed in their magazine by George Monbiot June 2004

www.monbiot.com...-888

A very interesting view on world governance.



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 01:35 PM
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anjeeeee,

It was the art work and artifacts that made the whole wing different from the rest. They were very old and very 'select'. They were taken from all around the world which made the room feel strange because of the age and selection of artifacts. Some of the things felt much older then the family themselves (no proof of course, just instinct), which indicates the family bloodline is older then what it says. The wide range of art and artifacts from all over the world seemed to be the 'wierd' thing about the room. The things in there seemed specially placed and handpicked.

Some of the things are so special the Rothchilds have half of the work and the Queen the other half. So if there are 2 in the collection the Queen would have the other half. The wing itself isn't always open for viewing either.

About my statue in the garden comment. Well I asked and it wasn't a garden, it was more like an enclosed court. There were 3 statues all on plinths. All these statues were birds. One Eagle, One Cockrell, One Vulture and one more empty plinth. Each were placed in the North, East, South and Western corners of the court. He can't remember which bird in which corner.

The building is called Wadston Manor but it is infact much bigger then a manor. Sometimes they dine heads of states there have have dined kissinger in the past.

[edit on 19-8-2004 by 7th_Chakra]



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 01:47 PM
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I would have the say the statue is one dedicated to elswet.50megs.com... Air Magick. The 4 different birds facing in the four directions would be one representing each element, but because they are birds, rather than a different animal for each element, that denotes an intent for elemental Magick in the form of Air rites.

Some of these include, but are not limited to...Schooling, memory, intellectualism, teaching, tests, divination, communications, travel, writing, organizing and organizations, groups of all kinds, theorizing, and drug addictions.


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posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:06 PM
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www.royalty.nu...

if you want to do some researh into the ancestors of the European Kings and Queens this is a good site.

Bilbo



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 04:24 PM
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Just to highlight the statues in the forecourt. They were all seperate and placed in the 4 N, E, S, W corners of the forecourt facing each other. You can't see it from the ouside of the manor, only from the inner most rooms.



Right in the heart of the manor, outside.

Instead of Vulture in one corner he now thinks it a lion.


ANYWAY they were 4 animals specially picked and placed within this court (one missing) which can ONLY be viewed from a few rooms within the house. The public cannot go up close and see that court, only view it from a few rooms.

[Spelling re-check] Its called Waddeson Manor.



posted on Aug, 19 2004 @ 05:09 PM
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All the fuss and pomp you refer to is there mainly for the tourist trade .
Its put there for you americans to have your photo taken next to.
It also serves to educate our nations children and to show respect for true living history.
As for the extict trades, where do you buy your groceries,fish,wine etc. from?



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