I'm curious at the argument "why are we not teaching English or Math while other countries are?"

You are, America, you are teaching your kids English and Math.

Do many people even know Alan Turing, the man who cracked German codes was homosexual, and had the choice of taking female hormones, or face imprisonment?

He eventually committed suicide, which his family believe was accidental.

It's like everyone against this think homosexuality, because it has the word sex in, is only about sex.

It's about platonic and non-platonic attraction, romance, social interaction, the same interests etc

God, you think the schools will be teaching children 5 and over something they'll be learning when they're 13!

It's true. I am a teacher in California. Isn't our education system just LOVELY?


I just have to add, I am a 2nd grade teacher in one of the most impoverished counties in this state. When teachers of different counties are teaching math, reading, science, social studies, and beyond... I am teaching reading for ESL, math, writing, and reading comprehension. That is about 90% of what I am teaching because we are currently in Program Improvement, year 3 (3/5 and 5 is the worst).

So my question is, where in my time of day when i'm slaving over math, LA, and teaching students of Spanish only households how to read and write in California Academic Language (CALP) am I supposed to fit in lessons about famous sexual orientations? My students can barely read words like "different" and "direction." Above all, I am supposed to SOMEHOW get my students to reach PROFICIENCY in the previously mentioned subjects before 2014 or face the risk of losing my career.

How am I supposed to accomplish all this? On top of everything, I had 32 students in my class last year and 30 the year before. I just don't see how us, as teachers, are supposed to perform miracles when more and more items are being added to our plate! I am not Anti-gay/lesbian. I am Anti-teaching students unnecessary information! Leave it to the parents to decide whether they want their children to know about historic gay figures. I shouldn't have to teach that on top of everything else!

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*clears throat* Thank you.

It's great that little Billy and Mary Sue will learn the history of every possible group represented in society...

It's great that little Billy and Mary Sue will learn how to have great sex in elementary school...

It's great that little Billy and Mary Sue will learn that we all came from slime that crawled out of the ancient swamp...

Now, maybe we could concentrate on teaching them reading, writing and arithemetic.

Time to Home School the little ones, IMO

Originally posted by Frontkjemper
**Sigh**

Really America? Really? Since when has a persons sexual preference EVER had a matter in historical events? Let's say that George Washington was gay (for arguments sake only). So would this mean that his sexual preference would be discussed instead of the good he did as a founding father?

Am I the only one here who feels that the American school system has completely gone off it's rocker? If I end up curing cancer or doing something great that will be taught in schools, I'd want the children to learn my struggle and how I did it rather then who I did the naughty with.

See, this is a great example of someone forming an opinion on the subject without actually READING anything about it. Because NOTHING about this is about teaching people 'who someone did the nasty with'. It's about not REMOVING historical figures from a text just because they are gay, as has been done in this country for centuries.

Thsi sin't a history of how to have gay sex. a simple reading of the article would have told you that

Everyone knows that the only people who have contributed anything to history have been good, christian straight, white males with happy wives who they never cheated on, and never diddled the slaves, or died of gonorrhea, or anything.

It is OBVIOUS that any attempt to include gay people in a telling of history is an attempt to make children gay. Why else would we talk about them, unless we are implicitly implying we want kids to engage in homosexual acts and bestiality and the ensuing murderous behaviors that will surely follow.

Originally posted by mugger

Is being Gay any more important than myself being a a loving caring father to my child or children that they need their own disclaimer?

edit on 7/16/2011 by mugger because: (no reason given)

No.

Why would you ever think it was?

Originally posted by mugger

I do not need a parade to validate myself or my actions.

edit on 7/16/2011 by mugger because: (no reason given)

While your comment really doesnt relate to the topic in any specific way beyond your obvious dislike of homosexuality, I am curious; You raise your child to have one specific sexual preference? Are you afraid she might choose the wrong one if you dont carefully guide her on one directions?