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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
lol... I love how some people totally ignore the question and jump right to the propaganda... Maybe you didn't understand what a verse was... it's understandable....
Originally posted by JayTaylor
I'm always surprised at people's sense of entitlement! The very notion that God, or whatever you may call Him, owes anyone, more especially a non-believer, any kind of explanation for His actions is absurd at the least.
Perhaps the best evidence we have that God is forgiving is the fact he tolerates that kind of gall from his creation and doesn't just strike them down.
You can think God is cruel, hypocritical, and whatever else you like. Do you think stomping your foot and crossing your arms will make God change his plans?
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. Deuteronomy 17:12
You should not let a sorceress live. Exodus 22:17
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I couldn't disagree more. You sound like the pouting kid who is crying about how terrible mom and dad are immediately after being spanked for disobeying. God doesn't pass judgment unless there first is disobedience.
Sorry, we're at fault for disobeying, not God for punishing said disobedience.
The Old Testament is full of unjust and unrighteous activities by god. If you were to remove the preconception that the biblical god is somehow always in the right what you find is a capricious, genocidal maniac. And whatever gave you the opinion that god's rampages were the result of disobedience? You may wish to revisit the Old Testament for another reading (if you've actually read it already).
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Still sounds like that metaphorical pouting kid after a spanking.
Originally posted by Jordan River
Imagine a world where Sodom and Gommorah still existed or blended into the fabric of "moral society". Who the hell are we to question Him?
I couldn't disagree more. You sound like the pouting kid who is crying about how terrible mom and dad are immediately after being spanked for disobeying. God doesn't pass judgment unless there first is disobedience. Sorry, we're at fault for disobeying, not God for punishing said disobedience.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
What I have never really understood about the bible is that if god created us in his image, why is it disobedient to use our intelligence to question and reject things, including his existence? These must be qualities modeled on god after all.
If we truly are created after god then surely any thing we do or believe is infallible and unquestionable like the god of the OT.
Originally posted by balanc3
God has always been logical and reasonable.