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reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 09:40 AM by citizen6511
reply to post by Bibliomaniac



i paid for a CORI check to be a volunteer on a DART team.(Disaster Animal Response Team).

many organizations now require criminal background check to be a volunteer.


reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 09:46 AM by Bibliomaniac
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You're right that it can't absolutely predict how someone will behave in the future...
But it seems more centered around the past -- past can (not always..but can) help predict the future, no?



reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 09:53 AM by Bibliomaniac
reply to post by AbandonFaieth



Isn't it ironic how applications will say that disclosing the information does not automatically exclude you from the position...because I'm pretty sure it does.

Good luck.


reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 09:53 AM by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Bibliomaniac
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You're right that it can't absolutely predict how someone will behave in the future...
But it seems more centered around the past -- past can (not always..but can) help predict the future, no?


No more than a check can predict the future.

Like in the post at the top of this page. Felony for child support payments. What does that predict with any certainty? Maybe an employer could see financial trouble and conclude the applicant has a history of financial irresponsibility. At the very least a single instant of financial irresponsibility. Depending on the job and how long ago it occurred and the applicants references that issue ranges from 0-3 on a "seriousness" scale.

But the employer just sees "felony" and stops right there.

I'll grant that recidivism for certain crimes is high. But we must consider the whole of the "justice" system's affect on those rates. Would they be so high with humane penalties? With methods other than locking lunatics into a compound? Without scarlet lettering offenders for life?

Recidivism is high but the system isnt exactly doing anything to change that. In many ways the system is encouraging recidivism by limiting opportunities and subjecting non-violent or first time offenders to the company of full blown psychopaths 24/7.

Using the past as a predictor of the future doesnt work so well with human behavior. Certainly on a simple motor response Pavlovian way but not where higher cognitive faculties are concerned.


reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 10:00 AM by AbandonFaieth
Originally posted by Bibliomaniac
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post by AbandonFaieth



Isn't it ironic how applications will say that disclosing the information does not automatically exclude you from the position...because I'm pretty sure it does.

Good luck.


it does say that and yet even no matter what it is for even something as stupid as mine they still say "get bent" go work for McDs or something


reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 10:01 AM by yakuzakid
reply to post by Bibliomaniac



As someone with a 'chequered past' I hate them.

And as I'm getting made redundant soon I'm not likely to get hired in this climate where 50 people are going for any job that's not cleaning toilets or working in McDs.


reply posted on 15-7-2011 @ 11:28 AM by teapot
In the UK, background checks are carried out by the Association of Chief Police Officers, a company limited by guarantee and are little more than a further income stream for the police.

We have limitations on convictions that are 'spent'. This means that any conviction whilst a juvenile, is removed from any criminal records along with adult convictions that are more than seven years old. Only murder and child molestation convictions should remain at the Criminal Records Bureau, all else are legally 'spent'.

If a CRB check is a mandatory requirement for securing an employment contract, the employer usually pays and must provide the ACPO with suitable reasons for requiring the check. The catch all acceptable reason is 'working with and access to possibly vulnerable individuals'! This could and does include working the till in a supermarket or serving burgers! I have come across companies that demand full clean CRB for people working in their call centres! The excuse? They may on occasion have to speak to 'vulnerable individuals'! A call centre where most calls are recorded for 'training purposes'!

My concerns are that the growing demand for CRB checks will/could further erode our civil liberties. If any Brit reading this is subject to a CRB disclosure that reveals any conviction more than seven years old, seek legal advice and then please publish your experiences here at ATS!
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