Do Whites have a superiority complex?

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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by DaveNorris and just so we are clear. racism is when you make an asumption about someone based souly on the color of their skin. so asuming that all white people are racist is actually a racist comment itself.


Today people often confuse racism with prejudice. The two are similar but different enough for the usage to be important. All people to a certain extent have some form of prejudice - ti is fairly natural. However, racism is worse so its the one people use to demean an opponent.

Racism–noun


1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


Prejudice–noun


1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.


I am prejudice in that I become more warry around groups of young black males. I also become as warry of young white males if they are dressed in the "gangsta" manner. Prejudiced maybe, cautious for sure - racist...not.




posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Fashion?

WTF are you smoking?

Pants down around your ankles with underwear hanging out -

We still call them dweebs.

There's a reason it's called UNDERwear.

Fashion. Riiight.



posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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You knows whats funny about that, actually.

A few months ago I was on a bus, and there was this older black guy talking to a younger black guy about
how kids or people who sag dont even know where it originated from.

HE SAID.. (along these lines) .." Back in the day(around the early 30's), in prison, the only people who wore their pants like that, were the gays(I guess thats how they identified themselves;according to him).
And that it was not about fashion. Just an identity marker{if you will}.
I just sat there, speachless.
This guy was going off about how BK (British Knights)shoes were owned by the KKK, and that the "brothers" back in the early nineties late 80's wore them and didnt even realize wtf they were sporting.
he was going off on all sorts of things.

He pretty much made that bus trip.


Oh and to add- If you sag cause you dont have a butt, like me, thats understandable. But belts do come in handy from time to time.
edit on 19-7-2011 by Common Good because: to add



posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by 2012srb
 


You knows whats funny about that, actually.

A few months ago I was on a bus, and there was this older black guy talking to a younger black guy about
how kids or people who sag dont even know where it originated from.

HE SAID.. (along these lines) .." Back in the day(around the early 30's), in prison, the only people who wore their pants like that, were the gays(I guess thats how they identified themselves;according to him).
And that it was not about fashion. Just an identity marker{if you will}.
I just sat there, speachless.
This guy was going off about how BK (British Knights)shoes were owned by the KKK, and that the "brothers" back in the early nineties late 80's wore them and didnt even realize wtf they were sporting.
he was going off on all sorts of things.

He pretty much made that bus trip.


Oh and to add- If you sag cause you dont have a butt, like me, thats understandable. But belts do come in handy from time to time.
edit on 19-7-2011 by Common Good because: to add


I don't know about the sneakers, but the saggy pants thing is true(which is hilarious, because black folks are the most homophobic people on earth). I've heard this from guys right out of prison, and recently. these fools don't know they're advertising the goods lol



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by DaveNorris

Originally posted by Mividau



Originally posted by DaveNorris
sorry, i didnt read your whole thread. just wanted to say that if i used the term 'blacks' youd be pretty affended. dnt appreciate the term 'whites' doesnt affend me in perticular but ... treat others how you want them to treat you... its a good code to go by.

yes im white, and i have a theory on this, its not white against black, its rich against poor, and buddy most of us are poor doesnt matter about race.. rich people make the maps, rich people write the history books rich people run the governments... just something to think about


Thank you thank you thank you thank you

I tried to say that earlier but got brushed off. Its a divide and conquer thing.
If we would stop fighting among ourselves we would give the goverment and rich a run for the freaking money.
But their not scared, Why because we are not united as a whole country.

So once again
THank U THANK U THANK U THANK U


its ok for you, your american. you can own a gun.... if a revolution started here in england id be screwed. all i got is a bat lol


LMAO, But I would use that bat till the cows came home....But apparently our goverment is trying to take our right to have guns away. So we might have a bat revolution as well. If we do I suggest Loueyville slugger



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by DaveNorris
and just so we are clear. racism is when you make an asumption about someone based souly on the color of their skin. so asuming that all white people are racist is actually a racist comment itself.


I admitted I did that in error. Not relizeing what I was saying. Which is were I mean sometimes people dont even know they are being racist. Alot of those beliefs tend to be past down generation after generation. Luke my hubbies grandmother who lives in Iowa and is 90 years old is very racist.

I just let it go. She grew up in a different era then I did. And she has a great heart, somethings we just cant fix.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by 2012srb
reply to post by Mividau
 


Fashion?

WTF are you smoking?

Pants down around your ankles with underwear hanging out -

We still call them dweebs.

There's a reason it's called UNDERwear.

Fashion. Riiight.


WOW, I almost didnt even address this comment. I say fashion and that is were you imediately go.
FYI, all cultures tend to be doing that now.

Anyways not talking about that, I am talking about main stream designers or those who reshaped the fashion industry. Here are some names. (B4 you chew me out it is to make my point, And you know who you are)

Stephen Burrows,Rachel Roy,Beyonce and Tina Knowles - House of Dereon,Tracy Reese,Zelda, Kimora Lee Simmons of Baby Phat, Russel Simmon's of phat farm ......

1863


So gifted is Virginia-born Elizabeth Keckley with a needle and as designer that less than 20 years after buying her freedom from slavery and starting a thriving dressmaking business in Washington, she is chosen as first lady Mary Lincoln's seamstress.

1948

Zelda Wynn Valdes starts the first Black-owned store on Broadway in New York, selling her sexy, hip-hugging dresses to Black legends such as movie star Dorothy Dandridge, opera diva Jessye Norman and singer Gladys Knight. She creates the Playboy bunny costume in the 1950s.

1973

Often outrageously revealing, Scott Barrie's evening wear, made from clinging jersey, makes him, at this moment, one of the country's most sought-after designers.

1990

In Los Angeles, designer Carl Jones starts Cross Colors, a political-artistic-commercial enterprise that celebrates street-style, even as it condemns Black-on-Black gang violence.

Link to 1863 and on Black fashion Designer's. Lesser Known but huge impacts.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by dragonseeker

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by 2012srb
 


You knows whats funny about that, actually.

A few months ago I was on a bus, and there was this older black guy talking to a younger black guy about
how kids or people who sag dont even know where it originated from.

HE SAID.. (along these lines) .." Back in the day(around the early 30's), in prison, the only people who wore their pants like that, were the gays(I guess thats how they identified themselves;according to him).
And that it was not about fashion. Just an identity marker{if you will}.
I just sat there, speachless.
This guy was going off about how BK (British Knights)shoes were owned by the KKK, and that the "brothers" back in the early nineties late 80's wore them and didnt even realize wtf they were sporting.
he was going off on all sorts of things.

He pretty much made that bus trip.


Oh and to add- If you sag cause you dont have a butt, like me, thats understandable. But belts do come in handy from time to time.
edit on 19-7-2011 by Common Good because: to add


I don't know about the sneakers, but the saggy pants thing is true(which is hilarious, because black folks are the most homophobic people on earth). I've heard this from guys right out of prison, and recently. these fools don't know they're advertising the goods lol


I only research things I like so I never even knew that

The BK's thing did circulate in baltimore and a couple kids in my school got jumped for wearing them because of that rumor.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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First of all;

Your use of the word "white" is very derogatory and racist...

It implies that we lack color...

Could you please refer to us as European American, Ivory or light brown in the future...

Please refer to my signature for further clarity on the subject...


Secondly;

The OP, is overall, a generalized demonization of an entire group of people based on pure bullcocky, and thus further proof of you being blinded by racism....



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
First of all;

Your use of the word "white" is very derogatory and racist...

It implies that we lack color...


LMAO, WELL IN THE WINTER WE DO, BWAHAHAHAHA



BTW, You're last part are you refering to me or someone else. You should really clarify that for people.
THANKS
edit on 22-7-2011 by Mividau because: Inquiring minds need to know lol



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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The OP, is overall, a generalized demonization of an entire group of people based on pure bullcocky, and thus further proof of you being blinded by racism....


as referenced by the above emboldened text I was reffering to the OP, or Original Post, with my comment... Sorry for any confusion... I was just making a rhetorical comment based on my observation of one post... it was in no way meant to be a part of your conversation, but now that I read it I can see how you may have thought it was...
edit on 22-7-2011 by wearewatchingyouman because: clarity



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by Mividau
 



The OP, is overall, a generalized demonization of an entire group of people based on pure bullcocky, and thus further proof of you being blinded by racism....


as referenced by the above emboldened text I was reffering to the OP, or Original Poster, with my comment... Sorry for any confusion...


No problems, I can be a blond sometimes lol. I just didnt wont to ignore you if you were talking to me.
I consider it rude to do that to people.

You wern;t offended by my joke were you? Since I posted it as a reply to you.
I thought it was time to lighten the mood on this thread.

Everything doesnt have to be a line in the sand.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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LMAO... No, I'm not one who offends easily... My comment was more or less to point out the utter stupidity of this entire argument... not yours per se... but just the dark brown vs ivory... my skin is cooler than your skin argument... racism BS... I could really care less what someone calls me... whether that be white or otherwise.... I don't understand in this time and age in America why racism even maters... there are bigots on both sides... eff em ... just live your life...
edit on 22-7-2011 by wearewatchingyouman because: funny fingers



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by nahitini
Some white people will tell me how we're all different, everything's okay and I'm just imagining things. Although I know there is much ignorance as many whites consider themselves to be the first/tops with regards to the creation of modern technology, and civilization as we know it. Whites have said they are priviledge in the sense that they let other races into "their" country (USA) to have free food, education and even energy, so hence all the historical oppression of Whites torwards others are to be overlooked or forgotten. White people have changed history and even made the Christian Messiah look White in pictures. They shrunk the size of Africa in their modern maps, they deny that black men are usually the first to die in their films when they're not made to wear dresses, and that black people had anything to do with the creation of alloys used in airplanes, microprocessors to run the first computers, even "brown" people braught color to your TV screen, allowed you to communicate on your phone to your white friends/family all over the world, made cars easier for us to drive, basically pioneered if not greatly improved on Whites contributions to technology, snuggled closely with Asian and Hispanic contributions. IMO, a world only with white people would be half-assed at best.

Some people feel pride in their race as a whole while they may not have personally accomplished much of anything at all. Others believe that merely because the white race is a minority (skin/hair color), that gives them the right to special treatment, whilst whites make up the multitude of the small percentage of the "stupid rich" out there in the world. White people think they are systematically being "pushed down" by indoctrination in the educational and public realms portraying whites as violent and evil. I'd like to add, perverted. I think that these stereotypes are entirely created by White people against White people, unlike stereotypes against Middle Eastern people which mostly comes from Whites. White people have been behind most of the policies coming out of the U.S. allowing for war in countries of non-whites, including the CIA secret wars, in addition systematic mind-control, experiments and torture of non-whites in their own countries/colonise, along with the European whites taking the lead in the extermination of Native Americans then giving themselves rights to making immigration policies, that deem the indegenous (as in those that came BEFORE white colonisation) as immigrants in their own lands, while Whites are not considered immigrants while by technicallity they are exactly that

Give me a chance as it sounds like I am venting/ranting but I am trying to get somewhere important here with your educated/mild input hopefully. I feel as if White people, atlest in films and songs are going out of their way to try to make themselves look to the rest of the world as the most blood-thirsty, horny, uncontrollable of all types of people (violent), why? Is this a scare/military tactic of domination?

Additionally, people of other races have an enormous contribution to our modern way of life, so because White Americans lead the wolrd in Porn and Mind-Control, they're trying to make others forget the responsiblities they have for the damages they've caused humanity, IMO, which I hope I'm still entitled to so long as I am not being belligerent. It is possible the discrimination during the civil rights times played a role in the priviledge other whites have today. They got to keep inheritences and the like black (asian, even hispanic) people just were never able to accumulate and so their children are not nearly as well off, with better schools, better living communities, chance for a better future, etc.

I heard a military higher-up say we needed to kill all the brown people before their little trip to Iraq, meanwhile the very microphones that were used to order soldiers around, killing even innocent civilians, much of this technology came right from the minds/hearts/hard-working hands of the very brown people they want dead. How can this ignorance and ingratitude be tied so closely together? How is this all happening? Where do we start to make this stop???

I read that non-whites ---allow--- "us" immigrants into this country, while as discussed above Native Americans were in the area long before whites, and so Whites should be the ones considered "immigrants"... I think this is where some of the problems stem, that White Americans think they're entitled to this land or rock just because they technically stole it ??? and so can do what they please, whereever they please to whomever they please as long as they can get most the wealth to themselves.... while using technology to do so and pretending their the ones who were solely behind even the technologies. They're at a very high place (mentally only) and if I were brainwashed, in that same mental place I'd think myself entitled too... I wouldn't know where to stop either because there wouldn't be any boundries'/limits for me, we have to wake them up before we're all good and gone because of them, and find a way so that they know there are limits/boundries that their history with evil deeds will not be forgotten, or freemason-overwritten. Do you think that white people are using black people with disinfo to make whites look superior, like giving Obama war-making powers and disinfo to take on wars? I think this is my first ATS post, please give me some credit for the effort, and I mean no disrespect to any race, nor do I feel comfortable telling you my race so that you don't think I am bias, I think I am making a very obvious observation and I hope you can help and not ban me or my question.





posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Meh..

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. The simple fact is that all of our modern conveniences are due in large part to contributions from many races and nationalities. An Italian invented radio, the Arabs pioneered modern mathematics, the Chinese gave us gunpowder, etc. In addition, you lump whites together as if they are all one group, when in fact, there are likely more differences between some nationalities than there are between two different races, at least as far as mindset, values, and beliefs.

But, to say that the MAN is STILL keeping down blacks or other people of color? It's ludicrous. Have you checked out the White House lately?

The only thing that perpetuates racism is this constant drive to take credit for what our forefathers did, suffered, or didn't do. It's ridiculous. We're not responsible for any of the GOOD or BAD things our ancestors did, and it's false guilt or pride. Let's focus on the contributions of men and women as HUMANS, and we'll all be a lot better off...



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
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LMAO... No, I'm not one who offends easily... My comment was more or less to point out the utter stupidity of this entire argument... not yours per se... but just the dark brown vs ivory... my skin is cooler than your skin argument... racism BS... I could really care less what someone calls me... whether that be white or otherwise.... I don't understand in this time and age in America why racism even maters... there are bigots on both sides... eff em ... just live your life...
edit on 22-7-2011 by wearewatchingyouman because: funny fingers


I agree. But the way you said it was much better then me. I've tried every which way to say this. Apparently I am niether elequent or funny enough lmao. Either way I like the way you said it


I still think it is very primitive to think with racist or prejudice ideas no matter what creed you are. Our generation is very lucky came when we did. Alot of people paved the way for the freedom's we enjoy on all sides. Granted with as far as we have come, there is still a long way to go. (( NOT on black vs white issues but other issues ))



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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racist theory and post....should have been closed at the start...try posting this as "blacks" and see what happens





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